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"so, if indeed you are just a good person who wants questions answered, then my suggestion is that you start behaving as such."

That statement turned out to be as valid as I figured it was. The questions I asked were simple questions that are just about basic facts. It doesn't matter about who I am. I listened to a radio interview of you on Brad Blog. You told them you couldn't answer most questions too. To get answers, I'm supposed to pass a good faith test. But to pass the test, I have to drop my skepticism. So the rule here is that skeptics can't ask questions. That's very convenient.

You keep attributing statements to me that I never made. I did say I had doubts about your first report on the Connell crash. That's because several details were inaccurate. When the Connell story broke, there was a rush of people trying to analyze the details. It was worth mentioning at the time that the details people were relying on were not necessarily accurate. You admitted shortly after posting your first blog entry that you got details wrong in a rush to get the story out. Getting details wrong is what raised my doubts about the entire blog entry.

One of those details was where you wrote, "I know he was going to DC last night, but I don't know why." Here's a link to your own blog: http://www.atlargely.com/2008/12/one-of-my-sources-died...

You keep saying I made false accusations but the inaccurate statement is still up on your blog. I wrote that Mr. Connell was in fact coming from College Park, Maryland. I didn't say anything about Pennsylvania. Here's the link. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I gave several good reasons for skepticism. One is that if Mr. Connell was facing his own death he would be unlikely to talk to reporters and risk getting himself killed. That's just common sense. Its also unusual that a lifelong Republican activist with give exclusive self damning information to a left wing blogger. Is skepticism prohibited? If somebody looks into your work to assess whether your claims are true, does that make the person some kind of deranged stalker? If you search what I wrote on the Internet, does that mean you are stalking me?

I have not accused you of lying. I've come close with my strong skepticism, but to this day I'm not convinced either way about whether what you said happened actually happened. Mrs. Connell verified in this latest article about her that you two at least talked sometime somewhere, so that part of my doubts no longer exists.

I have not libeled you. Throughout this, I'm the one who has been falsely accused. For example, I never made any dishonest claims about who owns you or funds you. I have no idea whether you even get paid.

If you search my previous posts, and even the ones at the link above, you'd see that I've often questioned other parts of this conspiracy theory that have nothing to do with you. Most often, I've questioned the early development of the conspiracy to threaten idea, since it made no sense under the circumstances and the source for much of the information was an anonymous tipster. I recently posted an article here in Election Reform that was about crash investigators finding causes for the plane crash other than sabotage.

I asked the MarkCrispinMiller blog if their interview would be posted because they wrote that they were going to "send out" the interview. I didn't know if that meant that it would be E-mailed to people on their mailing list or if the interview would be posted at the site.

I posted something at the one other blog that was something I wrote about the contradictions of the earliest forms of this conspiracy theory. What I wrote there didn't involve you, except a general statement that later versions of the conspiracy theory aren't backed up.

I'm willing to be questioned on what I write. Can you say the same?

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  -Connell widow says considered restraining order for RS blogger creeksneakers2  Jan-21-09 07:01 PM   #0 
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  - Ken Stewarts' Lodge in Bath is expensive ...  zbdent   Jan-21-09 07:28 PM   #2 
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  - WTF???  Dennis Donovan   Jan-21-09 07:31 PM   #3 
  - I'm sure that's who Mrs. Connell was talking about  creeksneakers2   Jan-21-09 08:03 PM   #6 
  - you are assuming that Heather actually said this...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 12:15 AM   #11 
  - Larisa is NOT a "self-styled journalist." She has broken major stories.  Hissyspit   Jan-21-09 11:18 PM   #9 
     - Hiss...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 12:28 AM   #14 
        - James Renner should have let you tell your side  creeksneakers2   Jan-22-09 07:39 PM   #47 
           - as usual...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 09:04 PM   #50 
              - I didn't assume anything  creeksneakers2   Jan-22-09 09:44 PM   #55 
                 - did you read my last article  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 09:57 PM   #58 
                 - Yeah. I read lots of stuff about Connell  creeksneakers2   Jan-22-09 10:03 PM   #60 
                    - i did not OUT  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 10:11 PM   #63 
                 - Here you go, nearly 3000 words...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 09:59 PM   #59 
                    - Those reports came out of Velvet Underground too.  creeksneakers2   Jan-22-09 10:05 PM   #61 
                       - lmao...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 10:23 PM   #64 
                       - creekersneeker2 was tombstoned, funny coinkiedink with you  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-24-09 02:01 PM   #106 
  - Merry Widow  Jambalaya   Jan-21-09 07:32 PM   #4 
  - Very bizzare disclosure. Some "investigation", eh? n/t  chill_wind   Jan-21-09 11:15 PM   #8 
  - yes.. why does he not name me?  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 12:18 AM   #13 
     - Exactly. It seems like an effort to discredit and chase away  chill_wind   Jan-22-09 03:54 AM   #17 
        - don't know who this guy is...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 04:00 AM   #18 
        - Larisa, a couple links I just grabbed in post #19. n/t  chill_wind   Jan-22-09 04:06 AM   #20 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-22-09 09:01 PM   #49 
        - That is the way it looks to me too. What a hit piece. nt  glitch   Jan-22-09 08:28 AM   #26 
           - yeah...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 11:41 AM   #28 
              - Hmm, I wonder if Arneback has seen this? Could be very interesting to him.  glitch   Jan-22-09 02:08 PM   #36 
  - what is strange here too and which makes me think he is making it up  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 12:17 AM   #12 
  - Just a guess  creeksneakers2   Jan-22-09 06:13 AM   #24 
     - okay... this is the first sensible thing i have seen you type  lala_rawraw   Jan-23-09 11:29 PM   #80 
  - and then she goes on about how she has her husband's ashes in the house ...  zbdent   Jan-23-09 12:06 PM   #71 
  - I'm not sure the heading "Cover Story" sends the message they want,  bleever   Jan-21-09 10:56 PM   #7 
  - ::Smack!:: That went right by me the first time I read it. :-)  chill_wind   Jan-22-09 04:55 AM   #23 
  - this is the second time you have posted this  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 12:12 AM   #10 
  - I started 2 threads at the same time  creeksneakers2   Jan-22-09 01:24 PM   #35 
  - delete  Hissyspit   Jan-22-09 01:13 AM   #15 
  - what did you delete?  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 02:52 AM   #16 
     - It was incoherent. I was falling asleep at the keyboard.  Hissyspit   Jan-22-09 12:15 PM   #33 
        - ah...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 03:13 PM   #40 
  - James Renner  chill_wind   Jan-22-09 04:04 AM   #19 
  - seems kind of cool actually  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 04:13 AM   #21 
     - Among other things, he fancies himself to be a debunker..  chill_wind   Jan-22-09 04:32 AM   #22 
     - Was the link to newamericancentury.org at the bottom of Renner's story  clear eye   Jan-25-09 12:10 PM   #114 
     - i wonder if she told him about the bomb threat at the park  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 11:49 AM   #29 
        - Larisa, I just found some more that would interest you. See post # 45.  chill_wind   Jan-22-09 07:16 PM   #46 
  - Sounds like they are trying to discredit Connell, a la Martha Mitchell.  glitch   Jan-22-09 08:24 AM   #25 
  - this style reminds me of that local Alabama hack  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 11:38 AM   #27 
     - I've got his name somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.  Hissyspit   Jan-22-09 12:08 PM   #30 
     - he was that guy who was at Horont's Alabama lecture  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 12:14 PM   #32 
        - Eddie Curran.  Hissyspit   Jan-22-09 12:21 PM   #34 
           - yes... yep... that is him  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 03:11 PM   #38 
              - Yes.  Hissyspit   Jan-22-09 03:48 PM   #41 
     - Ha! That is what I just said in response to your other post.  glitch   Jan-22-09 02:11 PM   #37 
        - great minds...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 03:11 PM   #39 
  - Larisa is not an "RS blogger." She is a major American investigative journalist.  Hissyspit   Jan-22-09 12:12 PM   #31 
  - since when is "blogger" an attack?  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-22-09 04:36 PM   #42 
  - um...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 09:18 PM   #51 
  - certainly, you said no such thing n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-23-09 04:58 AM   #67 
     - but i am trying to  lala_rawraw   Jan-23-09 11:25 PM   #79 
        - my take, briefly  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-24-09 07:18 AM   #85 
           - well we will agree to disagree then  lala_rawraw   Jan-24-09 09:34 AM   #91 
  - Larisa does not "blog" on Raw Story.  Hissyspit   Jan-22-09 10:48 PM   #65 
     - huh?  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-23-09 05:26 AM   #68 
  - My subject line just boils down to as few words as I could fashion  creeksneakers2   Jan-22-09 05:36 PM   #43 
     - fallacy of the excluded middle?  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-22-09 05:47 PM   #44 
     - as to your last point...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 09:24 PM   #53 
        - You said that the first time I posted.  creeksneakers2   Jan-22-09 09:51 PM   #56 
        - no... i actually was stupid enough  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 09:56 PM   #57 
           - I'm continuing to follow this story.  creeksneakers2   Jan-22-09 10:08 PM   #62 
        - I couldna care less  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-23-09 05:40 AM   #69 
     - interesting...  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 09:22 PM   #52 
  - Questions raised by others about the cred of James Renner (book).  chill_wind   Jan-22-09 06:59 PM   #45 
  - Two more blogs of opposing perspective- more on Renner.  chill_wind   Jan-22-09 08:06 PM   #48 
     - wow... well  lala_rawraw   Jan-22-09 09:26 PM   #54 
  - And you post this hit piece here on DU because????  L. Coyote   Jan-22-09 11:16 PM   #66 
  - I'm not sure its a hit piece  creeksneakers2   Jan-23-09 10:37 AM   #70 
     - well, i ask again...  lala_rawraw   Jan-23-09 12:18 PM   #72 
        - I called it a great piece  creeksneakers2   Jan-23-09 05:50 PM   #74 
           - wow, you really get around  lala_rawraw   Jan-23-09 11:12 PM   #77 
  - Our election system is now run by private, rightwing corporations...  Peace Patriot   Jan-23-09 05:37 PM   #73 
  - wow, you have some nerve  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-23-09 06:58 PM   #75 
     - You did it twice (at least).  Peace Patriot   Jan-23-09 09:06 PM   #76 
     - I'm waiting for OnTheOtherHand to prove his allegation-"Fact-checking never was your forte."  Peace Patriot   Jan-24-09 12:35 AM   #82 
     - what, you want me to wade through the archives?  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-24-09 07:28 AM   #86 
     - malarkey  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-24-09 07:34 AM   #87 
     - May I say something here?  lala_rawraw   Jan-23-09 11:21 PM   #78 
        - This whole stinking cesspool detracts from people doing real journlism and investigation  L. Coyote   Jan-23-09 11:38 PM   #81 
        - Yeah, I understand your point (ignore it), but I entered a couple of this character's  Peace Patriot   Jan-24-09 07:53 AM   #88 
        - I smell sulpher in the OP  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-24-09 01:46 AM   #83 
        - Quote  creeksneakers2   Jan-24-09 07:09 AM   #84 
           - Ah, the Grand Inquisitor is back! Answer his questions, or you're a liar.  Peace Patriot   Jan-24-09 08:37 AM   #89 
           - Larisa  JamesRenner   Jan-24-09 08:57 AM   #90 
           - Wow... Mr. Renner  lala_rawraw   Jan-24-09 09:38 AM   #92 
           - I asked him for his reaction on his blog  creeksneakers2   Jan-24-09 10:28 AM   #94 
           - my, my  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-24-09 10:26 AM   #93 
           - I tip my hat to you sir  lala_rawraw   Jan-24-09 10:48 AM   #95 
           - He has his moments.  Ellipsis   Jan-24-09 10:57 AM   #97 
           - definitely some things a journalist would NOT write  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-24-09 01:30 PM   #104 
           - Those are great questions  creeksneakers2   Jan-24-09 12:22 PM   #98 
           - If you think that was bad...  lala_rawraw   Jan-24-09 12:30 PM   #99 
           - I see...it's not election fraud, it's just a kerfuffle.  Jim Sagle   Jan-25-09 10:41 PM   #115 
              - late to the thread?  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-26-09 08:34 AM   #117 
              - I know exactly what you're driving at, and no, I won't be stopped.  Jim Sagle   Jan-26-09 11:20 AM   #118 
                 - oh, bravely said!  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-26-09 05:31 PM   #119 
                    - We'd ALL feel much more alive if the obvious election fraud in 2004 were forced into the open and  Jim Sagle   Jan-26-09 06:08 PM   #120 
                       - la  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-26-09 08:29 PM   #121 
                          - Take a look at this whole thread.  Jim Sagle   Jan-26-09 09:16 PM   #122 
                             - I guess that would be, "No, no point"  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-27-09 05:17 AM   #124 
              - welcome to the Election Reform Forum  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-26-09 09:51 PM   #123 
           - ...and you're all of 30 years old. I doubt very much...  Ellipsis   Jan-24-09 10:54 AM   #96 
           - I read yer shit on the original link.  Jim Sagle   Jan-25-09 10:44 PM   #116 
           - is this the same as sockpuppet Creekersneeker2?  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-24-09 01:58 PM   #105 
              - I'm not him  creeksneakers2   Jan-24-09 02:50 PM   #107 
  - There's a very interesting interview of Larisa on this subject  creeksneakers2   Jan-24-09 12:36 PM   #100 
     - does anyone think  lala_rawraw   Jan-24-09 12:41 PM   #101 
     - No. Strikes me a message... someone didn't want you to interface.  Ellipsis   Jan-24-09 01:14 PM   #103 
     - and a discussion thread in GD on all of this  Ellipsis   Jan-24-09 01:03 PM   #102 
        - Larisa  JamesRenner   Jan-24-09 03:29 PM   #108 
        - By all means  lala_rawraw   Jan-24-09 05:25 PM   #109 
        - You believe the widow of a man who worked for Karl Rove, who was Rove's high tech  Peace Patriot   Jan-24-09 05:46 PM   #110 
        - Dude, I'm not Larisa. Are you really James Renner? I have to tell you...  Ellipsis   Jan-24-09 05:50 PM   #111 
        - It's on the DU front page, now.  Hissyspit   Jan-24-09 07:54 PM   #112 
           - mark's interview should be front page  lala_rawraw   Jan-24-09 08:21 PM   #113 
 

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