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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:09 AM
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13. How a 2007 IRV experiment violated several of NC election laws
In 2007, during an IRV pilot program in North Carolina, many exceptions to our election laws were made.

Uncertified software was allowed for counting the IRV votes for touch screen machines.

Ballots were hauled off from where they were cast to later be counted. This opens the door to fraud and violates NC election law. Ballots are supposed to be counted at the polling place.

Provisional ballots were not counted until AFTER the 1st 2nd and 3rd rounds were counted, and then they were added back in after the fact. Since IRV is not "additive", there is no sane way that this could be done.

There was no overvote warning to voters if they made the mistake of ranking the same candidate all 3 times. Many voters made this mistake, others cared so little about ranking choices that they wrote in stupid crap like Mickey Mouse etc. Others didn't rank choices at all.

Candidates spent most of their campaign time explaining IRV to voters.

Once candidate gave voters incorrect informatino on how to rank their choices.

All votes were not counted. Only first round, and then in one IRV contest where there wasn't a "majority" in the first round, the 2nd and 3rd choices for top two candidates were the only votes counted. 2nd and 3rd choices for other candidates were neither counted nor reported.

All vote data was not reported. See above.

This is IRV in real life.

The best BOE in our state couldn't count 3,000 votes correctly and had to recount them.

This year we are fighting to prevent those same things from happening again.


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