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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:28 PM
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25. His theory of a MIM attack changing election results as they were transmitted
from county tabulators to state tabulators is clearly false isn't it?

Here's an excerpt from Spoonamore's affidavit where he describes that possible attack:

2) The vote tabulation and reporting system, as modified at the direction of Mr. Blackwell,
allowed the introduction of a single computer in the middle of the pathway. This computer
located at a company principally managing IT Systems for GOP campaign and political
operations (Computer C) received all information from each county computer (Computer A)
BEFORE it was sent onward to Computer B. This centralized collection of all incoming
statewide tabulations would make it extremely easy for a single operator, or a preprogrammed
single "force balancing computer" to change the results in any way desired by the team
controlling Computer C.
In this case GOP partisan operatives.

http://www.rawstory.com/images/other/SpoonamoreAffidavi...


Each county reported their results locally so altering them during transmission from the county to the state would not be a successful approach. The difference between the county results reported by the county and the county results reported by the state would have been immediately obvious.

Please let me know if I'm missing some way this attack could have been the case. It seems to be obviously false, as far as I can tell, and it is the one that Spoonamore has been talking about the most.

He does also mention some other possible attacks that I haven't seen debunked. For example:

3) If scenario #2 described above is true, Computer C, was placed functionally in a central
control position in the network, for Computer C to have even updated instructions for various
tabulators at the county level
(Computers A) to change their results at the county level.


But it is the main theory of the MIM altering results during transmission that I am complaining about.

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  - Well, if they'd kill a man, they'd certainly invade a messageboard.  readmoreoften   Dec-22-08 05:22 PM   #1 
  - could you please clarify who you mean by "they"  emlev   Dec-22-08 05:34 PM   #3 
  - By THEY I mean Rove. By Rove I mean "any conservative operative".  readmoreoften   Dec-22-08 09:28 PM   #12 
     - Thank you.  emlev   Dec-22-08 10:21 PM   #13 
  - there's definitely been an attempt  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-04-09 01:07 PM   #31 
  - BECAUSE they're new to DU,  elleng   Dec-22-08 05:29 PM   #2 
  - and haven't sifted through the wealth of information and background that we have  mod mom   Dec-24-08 04:18 PM   #17 
  - They are still under the spell of the jaw-droppingly slanted and just  annabanana   Dec-22-08 05:41 PM   #4 
  - we were betrayed by a thing that claimed to be one of us  madrchsod   Dec-22-08 06:44 PM   #5 
  - I hope you are speaking about....  KoKo01   Dec-22-08 06:47 PM   #7 
     - yup andy...  madrchsod   Dec-22-08 09:00 PM   #11 
  - Because new DUers are mostly not Democrats.  Jim Sagle   Dec-22-08 06:46 PM   #6 
  - Well...I guess it's important to be Inclusive. After 2000 Selection we  KoKo01   Dec-22-08 06:49 PM   #8 
  - OKAY..why are many here so suspect of Arneback and Fritakis's Motives?  KoKo01   Dec-22-08 06:51 PM   #9 
  - I don't question their motives...  eomer   Dec-25-08 09:38 AM   #19 
     - Somebody has debunked Spoonamore's theory?  Stevepol   Dec-28-08 04:22 PM   #23 
        - .  Wilms   Dec-28-08 04:44 PM   #24 
        - His theory of a MIM attack changing election results as they were transmitted  eomer   Dec-29-08 06:28 PM   #25 
           - Not only that...  Bill Bored   Dec-30-08 01:16 PM   #26 
  - That someone is busting their ass for reform doesn't make them all-knowing.  Wilms   Dec-22-08 08:44 PM   #10 
  - My pet peeve  tbyg52   Dec-23-08 09:32 AM   #14 
  - Because they are not brainwashed yet!  L. Coyote   Dec-23-08 08:24 PM   #15 
  - Because Dems won  eridani   Dec-23-08 10:17 PM   #16 
  - >>We have to keep pounding on this, because it may make a difference next time.  tbyg52   Dec-24-08 07:48 PM   #18 
  - hard to tell  WillYourVoteBCounted   Dec-25-08 05:05 PM   #20 
  - new DUers aren't so likely to see this query  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-26-08 11:55 AM   #21 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-28-08 02:45 AM   #22 
  - I spent election night '04 (up until ~ 1:30 am) in an upstairs party room with many  mod mom   Jan-24-09 01:06 PM   #38 
     - yes, and the evidence of machine misallocation is solid  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-24-09 03:05 PM   #39 
        - Interesting side note.  mod mom   Jan-25-09 08:58 AM   #40 
           - wild  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-25-09 09:43 AM   #41 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-02-09 05:16 AM   #27 
  - I think we should start at the beginning  creeksneakers2   Jan-03-09 07:11 AM   #28 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-03-09 11:51 AM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-09 11:05 PM   #33 
     - enjoy your cement pizza  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-08-09 11:44 PM   #34 
        - By the slice...  Wilms   Jan-09-09 12:16 AM   #35 
  - Thank you mods  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-04-09 12:11 PM   #30 
  - i agree  lala_rawraw   Jan-04-09 05:27 PM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-10-09 05:06 PM   #36 
     - g'night, gknight  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-10-09 05:40 PM   #37 
 

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