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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-08 11:55 AM
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21. new DUers aren't so likely to see this query
Personally, I don't think that Arnebeck or Fitrakis are "scammers," at least by intent.

I think Fitrakis is pretty sloppy with facts. For instance, one of the Fitrakis and Wasserman pieces posted on GD (dated 12/20/08) claimed that at 12:20, "...initial vote counts showed John Kerry the clear winner" in Ohio, but "from then until around 2am, the flow of information mysteriously ceased. After that, the vote count shifted dramatically to George W. Bush."

Does anyone else remember (1) Kerry leading -- indeed, a "clear winner" -- in the Ohio vote count until "around 2am" or (2) the vote count freezing for about an hour and a half?

As for Mark Crispin Miller, the first chapter of Fooled Again offers the premise that it was a "miracle" that Bush won in 2004, based on various indicators such as the number of newspapers that endorsed Kerry. It's hard to understand how a knowledgeable political observer could form that opinion.

These are examples, but in my opinion not aberrations.

So, I would guess that some of the people who have "trashed" these activists do so because they are angered, amused, or otherwise unfavorably impressed by the quality of the activists' arguments -- as, at least in some cases, they should be.
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