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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 11:27 PM
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8. Cary NC couldn't count 3,000 IRV ballots accurately
It may be "easier", but it isn't easy and it isn't transparent.

Instant Runoff Voting isn't "instant" either.

Thanks to IRV, both Pierce County Washington and San Francisco CA are using uncertified untested
Sequoia voting software to "count" the IRV votes.

This counting cannot be easily viewed by the voters. Voters have to "Trust" the software,
which is a dirty idea.

SF puts data from the ballots online, but this isn't actual ballot images, but numbers representing the voted data.

Again, voters having to "trust" but not verify.

Counting IRV is not straight forward because it is not an additive function - each individual ballot has to be considered, then the choices have to be "reallocated" .

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  -SCOTLAND GAVE UP HAND COUNTING IN MAY 2007 WillYourVoteBCounted  Dec-18-08 04:45 PM   #0 
  - STV is a nightmare without electronic counting  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-18-08 05:28 PM   #1 
  - what is STV? n/t  diva77   Dec-18-08 06:52 PM   #2 
  - Single Transferable Vote  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-18-08 07:04 PM   #3 
  - Cary NC couldn't count 3,000 IRV ballots accurately  WillYourVoteBCounted   Dec-21-08 11:27 PM   #8 
  - You just can't get over it, can you  kster   Dec-18-08 11:27 PM   #4 
  - Well said Kevin  althecat   Dec-20-08 03:41 AM   #5 
  - for starters, I've more than earned right to be in this forum  WillYourVoteBCounted   Dec-21-08 11:22 PM   #6 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-11-09 02:24 AM   #14 
     - you love you some Tombstone Pizza  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-11-09 06:09 PM   #22 
  - better try to keep them where they are, and better learn who the enemies of HCPB are  WillYourVoteBCounted   Dec-21-08 11:24 PM   #7 
  - delete  kster   Dec-21-08 11:56 PM   # 
  - Your kids have the right to hand count the paper ballots before  kster   Dec-21-08 11:56 PM   #10 
  - You appear to be against hand counted paper ballots  ShadyShenanigans   Jan-11-09 02:33 AM   #15 
     - only if you didn't read the post, or...  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-11-09 09:31 AM   #17 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-11-09 11:33 AM   #18 
        - well, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt....  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-11-09 02:11 PM   #20 
           - I kinda doubt that he's really done.  troubleinwinter   Jan-11-09 04:14 PM   #21 
     - enjoy your cement pizza  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-11-09 11:39 AM   #19 
  - KSTER, please let us know when you get HCPB in your home town  WillYourVoteBCounted   Dec-21-08 11:28 PM   #9 
     - Your kids have the right to hand count the paper ballots before  kster   Dec-25-08 03:41 AM   #11 
        - Because internets BS artists would rather spew about it than actually organize n/t  eridani   Dec-27-08 07:02 AM   #12 
        - this thread was very enlightening n/t  Prepostericity   Dec-29-08 06:15 PM   #13 
        - Why don't you tell us all how you have implemented this in your own county? n/t  eridani   Jan-15-09 01:03 AM   #23 
  - .  Wilms   Jan-11-09 02:53 AM   #16 

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