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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 01:56 PM
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47. Popular Science: What You Need to Know About Voting Machines
After several centuries of casting and counting ballots, its shocking that we still havent mastered what seems to be a simple task. But anyone who lived through the 2000 presidential election, in which a mishmash of flawed voting machines, contradictory county procedures, and unclear state laws in Florida led to the least reliable outcome in history, knows that 21st century voting is no better than the era when we shouted out our votes at the courthouse steps. After 2000, the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) was passed by Congress to help rid us of hanging chads and stolen ballots by subsidizing e-voting machines. But, it turns out, the 50,000 e-machines turned out to be even more of a headache than the chads, with widespread reports of crashes, lost votes, flipped votes, and even hacking. Voting and vote counting since then has been more than a little bit interesting.

After almost of decade of voting reform and increased scrutiny, have we come far enough in safeguarding the vote? The answer is a resounding question mark. Though the real answer will come on November 4, many parts of the country have made great strides to fix the problems caused by electronic voting machines. The great solution? Send the machines to the dump. According to CBS news, just one-third of Americans will vote on electronic machines. Fifty-five percent of the electorate will rely on a relatively old technology, optical scan machines, which leave a paper trail.

In fact, the states with the biggest voting headachesFlorida, where e-machines dropped 15 percent of the Sarasota vote several years ago, and Ohio, the e-voting problem child of 2004have made the biggest steps back. Last year, the Sunshine state unplugged 30,000 touch screen e-voting machines in favor of optical scanners with a recountable paper trail. In Ohio, where questions about touch-screen voting set off investigations after the 2004 election, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner reviewed the states entire voting system and forced its largest counties to abandon e-voting. This year, she has printed enough paper ballots to allow voting to continue if there are any glitches or irregularities with the machines. Other states that have devolved from e-voting to paper include California, where all but three counties now use optical scan machines, Iowa, which replaced its machines in April, and New Mexico which is now all paper.

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  -Well, I just felt like collecting some ER news for old times' sake. tbyg52  Nov-30-08 12:01 PM   #0 
  - States nt  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:03 PM   #1 
  - WI: AG sounds off on voter lawsuit, rest of term  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:09 PM   #9 
  - FL: Frequent Hialeah candidate convicted of election fraud  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:11 PM   #10 
  - TX: Judge alleges election fraud in Richardson  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:13 PM   # 
  - GA: Velvet Revolution Says Saxby Chambliss Election Fraud:  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:15 PM   #12 
  - GA: E-Vote Questions Linger Over Cleland's 2002 Loss  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:34 PM   #38 
  - PA: Ex-ACORN worker gets home term in voter fraud case  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:16 PM   #13 
  - CA: Velvet Revolution Calls on CA Secretary of State to Investigate Prop 8 Vote!  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:17 PM   #14 
  - PA: County looks into voting machine bugs  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:20 PM   #15 
  - IN: Grand jury to look at Muncie mayoral election  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:23 PM   #16 
  - CO: Conejos voting machines pass tests  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:35 PM   #20 
  - OH: Voting system will be panned  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:36 PM   #21 
  - VA: Electronic votings reign far from over  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:38 PM   #22 
  - MN: Disputed ballots: Judge for yourself  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:59 PM   #25 
  - HI: Paperless voting for neighborhood boards approved  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:27 PM   #34 
  - FL: Gerrymandering in Florida  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:35 PM   #39 
  - VA: Improving Absentee Voting  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:39 PM   #40 
  - MD: We Don't Need No Stinking Source Codes!  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:47 PM   #45 
  - Some more info from BradBlog:  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:49 PM   #46 
  - OH: Lawsuit over '04 Ohio election advances  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:58 PM   #48 
  - FL: Class-Action Suit Filed Over Early Primary Election Date  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:02 PM   #49 
  - AL: Justice Department Sues Alabama for Failure to Protect Voting Rights of Overseas Citizens  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:08 PM   #52 
  - TX: Capitol News - Texas Legislature  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:15 PM   #55 
  - OR: Voting-machine results backed by recount test  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:23 PM   #60 
  - OH: Despite uproar, just 2 votes questioned  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:30 PM   #62 
  - Oh!  MookieWilson   Nov-30-08 12:04 PM   #2 
  - I wish my mind worked that fast....!  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:06 PM   #4 
  - National nt  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:04 PM   #3 
  - Diebold faces GPL infringement lawsuit over voting machines  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:23 PM   #31 
  - The Morning After, Voting Problems Remain  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:13 PM   #54 
  - Consensus Builds for Universal Voter Registration  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:18 PM   #57 
  - Foreign nt  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:07 PM   #5 
  - Election Fraud in Nicaragua  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:29 PM   #17 
  - VOA: Vote Recount Needed In Nicaragua  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:56 PM   #24 
  - Nigeria: Credible elections: E-voting to the rescue  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:33 PM   #37 
  - Philippines: Electoral reforms  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:29 PM   #35 
  - Philippines: Groups push for transparency, 'hybrid' counting for 2010  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:31 PM   #36 
  - Venezuela may reform election law  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:09 PM   #53 
  - Blogs, Editorials, LTTEs, etc. nt  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:07 PM   #6 
  - Voter Fraud  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:32 PM   #18 
  - LTTE: Twiddling our thumbs on voting security  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:45 PM   #23 
  - NYT: New Jersey Still Needs to Fix Its Electronic Voting  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:17 PM   #27 
  - Editorial: Take politics out of redistricting (CA)  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:18 PM   #28 
  - Time to target gerrymandering (PA)  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:19 PM   #29 
  - Why all votes are not equal (FL)  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:20 PM   #30 
  - Are Long Lines the New Poll Tax?  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:24 PM   #32 
  - More Unfinished 2008 Election Business: Verifiable Vote Counts  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:26 PM   #33 
  - LTTE: Possible Voter Fraud  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:41 PM   #41 
  - Bailing out ignorance: Voting public 'dumber than ever'  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:42 PM   #42 
  - Why Minnesota's Recount Process is a Model for the Country  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:43 PM   #43 
  - More Election 2008 Stories: Election Judge Who "Helps" Voters Vote  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:46 PM   #44 
  - Popular Science: What You Need to Know About Voting Machines  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 01:56 PM   #47 
  - A couple of eVoting security podcasts, one an interview with Avi Rubin.  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:06 PM   #50 
  - Denying military personnel the right to vote  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:07 PM   #51 
  - Avoid the agony of recounts, and more, with instant runoff  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:17 PM   #56 
  - Making the case for Open Source software for elections (CA)  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:31 PM   #63 
  - Slow down Internet voting plan (FL)  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:32 PM   #64 
  - Campaign Finance nt  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:07 PM   #7 
  - Final touches put on public campaign finance plan (NH)  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:25 PM   #61 
  - The Youth Vote nt  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:08 PM   #8 
  - Why Democrats are thankful: The youth vote has arrived  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:20 PM   #58 
  - Philippines: Be counted, young voters urged  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:22 PM   #59 
  - silly me. I thought you meant  Tuesday Afternoon   Nov-30-08 12:13 PM   #11 
  - I *knew* there was a reason I decided to do this today....!  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 12:34 PM   #19 
  - K&R for olde times sake. n/t  yowzayowzayowza   Nov-30-08 01:14 PM   #26 
  - Thank you! nt  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 03:12 PM   #68 
  - That's all, folks!  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 02:34 PM   #65 
  - You need a hobby.  Lochloosa   Nov-30-08 02:54 PM   #66 
  - Nah, I just need to go back to work Monday.  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 03:06 PM   #67 
  - Thanks so much for doing this. It demonstrates just how much our ER issues continue to percolate.  Fly by night   Nov-30-08 03:37 PM   #69 
  - That's one of the reasons I did it.  tbyg52   Nov-30-08 03:53 PM   #70 
  - Thanks, tbyg! n/t  Melissa G   Nov-30-08 09:56 PM   #71 
     - It seemed like a good idea at the time.... ;-> nt  tbyg52   Dec-02-08 07:20 PM   #72 

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