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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:23 PM
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My Diebold OpScan ballot is FOLDED and guess where the fold is!?!
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I requested an absentee ballot here in Vermont and I'm filling it out now. I noticed it's folded in thirds to fit in the envelope. And get this, the oval I have to fill in for Obama is about one millimeter from the crease. I don't know about Diebold specifically but I know folds cause problems with scanners. Just think about the last time you tried to feed a dollar bill into a change machine. A fold in the bill is a big problem.

Has anyone heard of any problems or higher error rates on folded ballots being fed into the Diebold Accuvote OS?

I have to fold it again to send it back. I think I might just stop in and drop it off. If I can feed it in to the scanner my self I can see the ballot registered but I still won't be able to tell if my vote for President registered.

I imagine that virtually everyone voting absentee in Vermont has a fold in their ballots in the same place.

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  -My Diebold OpScan ballot is FOLDED and guess where the fold is!?! garybeck  Nov-03-08 02:23 PM   #0 
  - REPORT IT  glinda   Nov-03-08 02:27 PM   #1 
  - I just tried at 866-OUR-VOTE and it was so busy there i had to leave a message.  garybeck   Nov-03-08 02:43 PM   #7 
  - Interesting they didn't send you a paper ballot for absentee voting  eowyn_of_rohan   Nov-03-08 02:29 PM   #2 
  - it is paper...  garybeck   Nov-03-08 02:30 PM   #3 
     - I meant NON OpScan, paper, all filled out by hand  eowyn_of_rohan   Nov-03-08 07:01 PM   #17 
  - People in Alaska were worried about this same issue,  Blue_In_AK   Nov-03-08 02:38 PM   #4 
  - got a link?  garybeck   Nov-03-08 02:39 PM   #5 
     - I'll see if I can find it.  Blue_In_AK   Nov-03-08 03:13 PM   #12 
        - thanks, that's interesting, but....  garybeck   Nov-03-08 03:29 PM   #13 
  - Can't imagine...  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Nov-03-08 02:41 PM   #6 
  - Yeah, you should report that: 1-866-OUR-VOTE  phantom power   Nov-03-08 02:44 PM   #8 
  - I tried.....  garybeck   Nov-03-08 02:57 PM   #10 
  - That has to be on purpose. They could've mailed those in large  Progs Rock   Nov-03-08 02:56 PM   #9 
  - This has caused problems before  GuvWurld   Nov-03-08 03:06 PM   #11 
  - What you need to do is to find out your state's policy for redoing machine rejects  eridani   Nov-03-08 04:23 PM   #14 
  - that doesn't work in this case  garybeck   Nov-03-08 08:16 PM   #19 
     - I don't understand that at all  eridani   Nov-04-08 02:31 AM   #24 
  - Add this experience to the list of 999 reasons why optical scanners should NOT be used for elections  diva77   Nov-03-08 05:35 PM   #15 
  - Could you IRON IT with the steam iron on low, then re-fold it more safely?  8_year_nightmare   Nov-03-08 05:52 PM   #16 
  - Also note that Diebold simply makes the machine and  OrwellwasRight   Nov-03-08 07:59 PM   #18 
  - observers couldn't catch this.  garybeck   Nov-03-08 08:18 PM   #20 
     - try calling the hotline and punch in a west coast state  emlev   Nov-03-08 11:47 PM   #21 
  - Accuvote OS Ballot Specifications  harmonyguy   Nov-03-08 11:58 PM   #22 
  - .  Wilms   Nov-04-08 12:58 AM   #23 
  - that is really good.... but i don't see any mention of creases  garybeck   Nov-04-08 10:26 AM   #26 
     - I got the impression that the timing marks and the ballot position marks were in line.  Wilms   Nov-04-08 10:46 AM   #27 
        - of course we agree on the VVPAT / summary screen...  garybeck   Nov-04-08 12:41 PM   #28 
           - Yep. Just reading the fine print in that manual suggests as much.  Wilms   Nov-04-08 12:46 PM   #29 
  - that is great.  garybeck   Nov-04-08 10:09 AM   #25 
     - Folds on timing marks = folds on ovals  harmonyguy   Nov-04-08 01:47 PM   #30 
        - response  garybeck   Nov-04-08 02:32 PM   #31 
  - Dust, Creases Slow Ballot Count In Boulder  Wilms   Nov-09-08 08:29 PM   #32 

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