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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:05 PM
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27. I doubt the idea of finding another sponsor for the bill has been seriously discussed.
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 12:18 PM by Bill Bored
Holt has become the go-to guy on this issue. I have personally tried to get another Rep in Congress with experience investigating elections to deal with it, but they won't touch it. They refer me Holt and Mulder, sign on as co-sponsors and wash their hands of it.

So it's Holt's way or the highway (beltway actually), and if he fails, there's no second chance. The Senate seems to be completely uninterested. Feinstein and Dodd would make things WORSE!

So overall, the best thing Congress can do is probably absolutely nothing, which thankfully is what they've done since HAVA was passed. A simple bill like Ensign's, which Andy Stephenson (may he RIP) had lobbied for before the Dems got control, might have helped, but that didn't happen either.

What would be nice is for Holt to push his precinct aggregation audit bill. That might be less controversial, would definitely do some good, and it's definitely a heck of a lot cheaper. In this era of the BIG BAILOUT, it makes sense not to ask for more money to be spent on voting systems for a while, unless the next administration sees this is a major priority.
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  -HOLT STATEMENT ON NEW JERSEY (Insecurities and Inaccuracies of the Sequoia AVC Advantage) Report Wilms  Oct-17-08 09:27 PM   #0 
  - Seems to me a lot of stuff is coming to a head.  Jackpine Radical   Oct-17-08 09:32 PM   #1 
  - wow, just in time...  tomp   Oct-18-08 07:50 AM   #5 
     - well, Holt busted his butt  OnTheOtherHand   Oct-18-08 08:12 AM   #6 
        - Quit pushing Holt's legislation, OTOH.  Wilms   Oct-18-08 10:03 AM   #8 
        - I wasn't, even  OnTheOtherHand   Oct-18-08 10:20 AM   #10 
        - it's a problem that effects the party as a whole...  tomp   Oct-19-08 08:02 AM   #13 
           - You are sbsolutely right. They were more interested in blocking Republican Voter ID  Bill Bored   Oct-20-08 03:35 AM   #23 
        - Maybe some people will quit pushing it, when other people quit bashing it -- and him...  demodonkey   Oct-19-08 07:11 PM   #15 
        - Perhaps. But the sequence here was OTOH mentioning it, then me.  Wilms   Oct-19-08 08:09 PM   #18 
        - I did NOT say YOU are the Holt basher directly, but you blame ME for my recalcitrant legislature?  demodonkey   Oct-19-08 10:50 PM   #19 
        - But HR811 never came to a vote in the House!  Bill Bored   Oct-20-08 03:27 AM   #21 
           - That's been explained to her over and over.  Wilms   Oct-20-08 09:26 AM   #24 
              - I doubt the idea of finding another sponsor for the bill has been seriously discussed.  Bill Bored   Oct-20-08 12:05 PM   #27 
        - fixed tiered reeks of that california audit, that gold audit or some such  FogerRox   Oct-19-08 08:01 PM   #17 
           - How come NJ isn't auditing absentee ballots?  Bill Bored   Oct-20-08 03:03 AM   #20 
              - I'm firing up the task force for 2009, I'm speaking at the Eithical Culture Society Nov 9th  FogerRox   Oct-20-08 09:50 AM   #25 
                 - That's NOT going to be easy. NJ does NOT sort absentee ballots by precinct.  Bill Bored   Oct-20-08 12:02 PM   #26 
        - Actually, Democrats in General and the Party Leadership in particular KILLED the Holt bill.  Bill Bored   Oct-18-08 06:50 PM   #11 
           - yeah, Hoyer was no friend of the bill n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Oct-19-08 03:59 PM   #14 
  - He wants opti-scan equipment?  eowyn_of_rohan   Oct-17-08 11:23 PM   #2 
  - two thoughts about that  OnTheOtherHand   Oct-18-08 06:06 AM   #3 
     - Op-scan problems in the 2004 election  eowyn_of_rohan   Oct-18-08 10:01 AM   #7 
     - point by point  OnTheOtherHand   Oct-18-08 10:11 AM   #9 
     - Wasn't the Berekley 2004 stuff re FL DREs?  Bill Bored   Oct-18-08 06:55 PM   #12 
  - K & R  machI   Oct-18-08 06:29 AM   #4 
  - Congressman Holt, where you 3 years ago ?  FogerRox   Oct-19-08 07:56 PM   #16 
     - Ooooooo. Redacted. Sounds juicy. Was it in the newspapers at the time? nt  Bill Bored   Oct-20-08 03:31 AM   #22 

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