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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 06:26 PM
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12. First of all, this is no surprise....
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 06:29 PM by Bill Bored
...surveys have shown that most disabled voters in NY prefer to vote absentee. Furthermore, you can't compare a primary to a general election so the real test will be in November.

Also, while e-vote counting is a terrible idea, these machines are not counting anything in 2008, so I'm not sure why e-vote counting advocates would want to vote on them. HCPB advocates might, assuming they don't mind using a computer to mark their hand-counted paper ballot. It's only when the ballots are counted by optical scanners that there will be e-vote counting. Hopefully that's not going to happen any time soon in NY.

NYVV (with the help of many others in the state) have done a fantastic job at keeping DREs out, unless you consider the fact that the Sequoia/Dominion ImageCast optical scanner can also work as a DRE, more or less at the flip of a switch. The same may be true of ES&S's latest DS200 offering which, if certified, will be another hybrid machine used in NY.

NY Election Law does not ban DREs -- just DREs without VVPATs. Yet a few of those are still in use in Saratoga County.

The best bet for NY is to keep the lever machines. No one wants to talk about a serious post-election audit, and post-election audits, while useful, do not guarantee election-night counts the way lever machines do. Indeed the post-election audit is only necessary because the election-night count will become so unreliable with optical scanners or DREs that the only way to check it is by doing a risk-based statistical audit or a full hand count. The NY State Board of Elections has not responded to calls to implement such a procedure. Maybe they know something we don't -- such as: the levers ain't goin' anywhere anytime soon. But I would not take their reluctance to talk seriously about auditing elections as a positive sign just yet.
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