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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 02:25 AM
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74. So if I don't organize a strategy here on DU I can't comment and shouldn't post news stories?
In your many years of lurking here, and the hundreds of stories I posted, I was not aware that's "the problem".

And yes, I have the nerve to "nitpick" over fact, such as phrasing likely to mislead activists and voters. You call that denial of service, I call it denial of BS. Pardon.

At least you realize that the voting system is unlikely to change prior to the election. And I'm sure Demodonkey knows, as well, despite her post that prompted my response. I suppose that's why no strategy was offered there.

Your concern for PA over FL/OH is noted. I pick FL. They got paper you can't count. FWIW polling trends support my concern.

August 26, 2008

The Quinnipiac polling finds Sen. Obama with a 49% to 42% lead in Pennsylvania, unchanged from late July.

At the same time, Sen. McCain leads in Florida, 47% to 43%. And in Ohio, the two candidates are virtually even: Sen. Obama was favored by 44% of the voters surveyed, Sen. McCain by 43%.


August 26, 2008

The poll, conducted Aug. 17-24, showed Republican John McCain leading Barack Obama 47 percent to 43 percent in Florida. A July 31 poll had Obama leading McCain 46 percent to 44 percent.

Among points I've failed to convey is that I don't think personal info is any of my business.

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  -Transparent Ballot Box, for 500 - 800 Paper Ballots, with Deposit Trap and Counter kster  Aug-16-08 01:53 PM   #0 
  - The FIRST !! K &R  galloglas   Aug-16-08 07:09 PM   #1 
  - Thanks galloglas, I guess Common Sense in counting ballots  kster   Aug-17-08 10:46 PM   #3 
  - kick..nt  kster   Aug-17-08 06:31 PM   #2 
  - Made and used in a country where voters don't vote for individual candidates  eridani   Aug-18-08 08:37 PM   #4 
  - Why are these people able to count complicated ballots by hand  kster   Aug-18-08 08:57 PM   #5 
  - Their "gift" is a trivially small number of ballots to count  eridani   Aug-18-08 09:22 PM   #6 
     - The video shows complicated paper ballots being hand counted, NO?  kster   Aug-18-08 09:45 PM   #7 
     - They are bloody well not in 3 congressional districts and 17 state legislative districts  eridani   Aug-18-08 11:35 PM   #8 
     - I don't think the number of ballots is the prpblem.  Bill Bored   Aug-24-08 12:10 AM   #46 
  - Gotcher back here-- I'm a poll worker, too, and...  TreasonousBastard   Aug-19-08 02:33 PM   #9 
     - I laugh at the clowns who defend any  kster   Aug-19-08 05:12 PM   #10 
     - Break out the vomit buckets, here we go again.  demodonkey   Aug-19-08 05:19 PM   #11 
     - yup, what you said n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-19-08 05:29 PM   #12 
     - I had no doubt that you would agree with that  kster   Aug-20-08 10:45 PM   #23 
        - at some point...  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-21-08 05:16 AM   #24 
        - You spin it any way you want Sir/Madam but, as I said  kster   Aug-21-08 11:52 PM   #26 
           - ?!  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-22-08 05:34 AM   #32 
        - So, whose National Guard were you planning to use to make mail voters  eridani   Aug-22-08 03:55 AM   #29 
     - as the world turns  BeFree   Aug-19-08 05:40 PM   #13 
     - A Picture a Video and a little Common Sense and we  kster   Aug-19-08 10:33 PM   #17 
     - There's a few broken records.  Wilms   Aug-19-08 09:45 PM   #16 
        - DREs are NOT "losing ground" in Pennsylvania to ANYTHING.  demodonkey   Aug-21-08 11:46 PM   #25 
           - You're yelling. Calming down could help.  Wilms   Aug-22-08 10:31 AM   #34 
              - Yep, what ever your flavor is  kster   Aug-22-08 10:06 PM   #36 
              - Yelling? You want yelling? Read this.  UnitedVoters   Aug-25-08 01:22 PM   #57 
                 - oh, jeepers, could you dial this down?  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-25-08 01:42 PM   #58 
                 - No I could not dial this down. I'm sick of this.  UnitedVoters   Aug-25-08 02:56 PM   #59 
                    - hey, I was here too  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-25-08 03:35 PM   #61 
                 - Actually, where do you get off putting words in my mouth?  Wilms   Aug-25-08 09:44 PM   #62 
                 - You're damn straight. People like you make me angry as hell.  UnitedVoters   Aug-26-08 09:25 AM   #69 
                    - So you are only willing to waste my time telling me what a bad guy you think I am. OK.  Wilms   Aug-26-08 10:36 AM   #70 
                    - The problem with you is...  UnitedVoters   Aug-26-08 12:20 PM   #71 
                       - So if I don't organize a strategy here on DU I can't comment and shouldn't post news stories?  Wilms   Aug-27-08 02:25 AM   #74 
                    - I had a brother, United. HE IS DEAD. Shame on Wilms for bringing this up in this thread.  demodonkey   Aug-30-08 11:27 AM   #79 
                       - What you are doing now is what you've done before. I think it's inappropriate.  Wilms   Aug-30-08 12:33 PM   #80 
                       - I am so sorry for your loss, Demodonkey.  UnitedVoters   Sep-01-08 01:52 PM   #84 
                          - That seems a bit ad hominem.  Wilms   Sep-01-08 07:14 PM   #85 
                             - You, of course, NEVER post anything that is ad hominem... Riighht.  UnitedVoters   Sep-02-08 09:14 AM   #87 
                                - be the change you want to see...  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-02-08 10:00 AM   #90 
                                   - OTOH...  UnitedVoters   Sep-02-08 01:17 PM   #92 
                                      - well, I'm sorry to hear that  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-02-08 02:21 PM   #93 
                 - Its WHERE AND WHEN the audit is done that matters  kster   Aug-25-08 11:24 PM   #65 
     - I suppose you want to do away with...  TreasonousBastard   Aug-19-08 07:16 PM   #14 
     - ATMs are fully secured by the customers and the bank  kster   Aug-19-08 08:58 PM   #15 
     - I still haven't heard about your trip to the BoE and...  TreasonousBastard   Aug-19-08 11:33 PM   #18 
     - Common Sense with no diversions......  kster   Aug-20-08 12:02 AM   #19 
     - If, however, you were in need of 100 $1 dollar bills,...  yowzayowzayowza   Aug-20-08 03:31 AM   #20 
        - Why does the bank always want the teller to do a 100% hand count of  kster   Aug-20-08 02:47 PM   #21 
           - Zing. n/t  yowzayowzayowza   Aug-20-08 04:14 PM   #22 
     - There is no way, even in theory, that voting machines could ever be like ATMs  eridani   Aug-22-08 04:04 AM   #30 
     - Votes are NOT financial transactions. As a poll worker, you should know the difference. nt  Bill Bored   Aug-24-08 12:34 AM   #47 
     - Neighborhood people are no more trustworthy than downtowners or machines  eridani   Aug-22-08 03:54 AM   #28 
        - Correct, the second count must be done AT THE POLLING PLACE  kster   Aug-22-08 10:03 AM   #33 
           - That would be optimum. However there is a slight problem.  eridani   Aug-23-08 03:15 AM   #37 
              - That's a different issue. Those votes are inherently insecure to begin with.  Bill Bored   Aug-24-08 12:51 AM   #49 
                 - Security problems can be dealt with by better oversight.  eridani   Aug-25-08 02:03 AM   #53 
                    - Duplicators huh? No wonder folks want to vote absentee -- they get to vote twice! nt  Bill Bored   Aug-25-08 02:58 AM   #54 
                       - No, the original is stamped ORIGINAL in red and it and the original and the stamped  eridani   Aug-25-08 03:19 AM   #55 
                          - No that's not how levers work. You can change the vote as many times as you want.  Bill Bored   Aug-25-08 10:07 PM   #63 
                             - I don't get you, you are defending a machine that is paperless  kster   Aug-25-08 11:42 PM   #66 
                             - How do you cancel your vote after you've pulled the lever? n/t  eridani   Aug-26-08 02:26 AM   #67 
     - Electronic voting is bloody well NOT the way to go  eridani   Aug-22-08 03:52 AM   #27 
     - Not so fast.  yowzayowzayowza   Aug-23-08 10:20 AM   #39 
        - A bill is either there or it isn't there  eridani   Aug-23-08 08:06 PM   #41 
           - Agree, but...  yowzayowzayowza   Aug-23-08 09:26 PM   #43 
              - Good thing that the folks who print bills are way better at their jobs than  eridani   Aug-23-08 09:56 PM   #45 
     - exactly the problem: "they seem to do the job needed."  emlev   Aug-26-08 11:41 PM   #72 
  - What would help put an end to insanity is for everyone who bloviated  eridani   Aug-22-08 04:10 AM   #31 
  - You don't have to be a pollworker to know that  kster   Aug-22-08 03:26 PM   #35 
     - As long as there are large numbers of people who mail in their ballots--  eridani   Aug-23-08 03:17 AM   #38 
        - It Must be done that way "can't" is not an option  kster   Aug-23-08 08:32 PM   #42 
           - So, do you actually have any real achievements as an election integrity activist?  eridani   Aug-23-08 09:52 PM   #44 
              - OK, LET ME DUMB THIS DOWN FOR YOU, a six or seven year old  kster   Aug-24-08 12:47 AM   #48 
                 - Now, suipposing the mail-in ballots were never in a polling place to begin with? n/t  eridani   Aug-24-08 02:20 AM   #50 
                    - We are discussing when and where ballots must be counted,  kster   Aug-24-08 09:29 PM   #51 
                       - You and what army will force absentee voters to become poll voters? n/t  eridani   Aug-25-08 01:53 AM   #52 
                          - Did you read my post? nt  kster   Aug-25-08 11:05 AM   #56 
                             - Yes. Answer the question. n/t  eridani   Aug-25-08 03:02 PM   #60 
                                - Put your ballot in  kster   Aug-25-08 11:07 PM   #64 
                                   - People prefer mail in voting by 70% in my state  eridani   Aug-26-08 02:29 AM   #68 
                                      - Tell them the truth, and you won't have to force anyone  kster   Aug-27-08 12:01 AM   #73 
                                         - And they'll tell you to go straight to hell  eridani   Aug-27-08 10:21 AM   #75 
                                            - They would tell me to go to hell for telling them the truth??  kster   Aug-28-08 12:30 AM   #76 
                                               - Telling them the truth accomplishes nothing in the real world  eridani   Aug-28-08 04:07 AM   #77 
                                                  - OK, I'll let THE MAN explain it to you  kster   Aug-29-08 11:52 PM   #78 
                                                     - You didn't read your own reference apparently  eridani   Aug-30-08 08:34 PM   #81 
                                                     - Fabulous, where will your hand count audit be done?  kster   Aug-31-08 01:40 AM   #82 
                                                     - As a pollworker, I approve the following process  eridani   Aug-31-08 02:20 AM   #83 
                                                     - OR WE CAN USE OUR COMMON SENSE  kster   Sep-01-08 10:41 PM   #86 
                                                     - Dupe.  UnitedVoters   Sep-02-08 09:27 AM   #88 
                                                     - HAND COUNT THE GODDAMN PAPER BALLOTS HAND COUNT THE GODDAMN PAPER BALLOTS  UnitedVoters   Sep-02-08 09:28 AM   #89 
                                                     - very true n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-02-08 10:01 AM   #91 
                                                     - Common Sense, HAND COUNT THE GODDAMN PAPER BALLOTS, BEFORE THE BALLOTS LEAVE THE POLLING PLACE!!  kster   Sep-04-08 11:05 PM   #94 
  - GREAT. I always wanted to see how others vote!  L. Coyote   Aug-23-08 02:55 PM   #40 
  - kick...nt  kster   Sep-04-08 11:40 PM   #95 
  - KICK TO ADD PHOTO  kster   Sep-05-08 12:04 PM   #96 
  - "This product is no longer available" n/t  JimDandy   Sep-18-08 05:10 AM   #97 
     - Thats alright I'd rather have it made in the USA anyway  kster   Sep-18-08 11:00 AM   #98 

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