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UnitedVoters Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 01:22 PM
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57. Yelling? You want yelling? Read this.

Where the hell do you get off, putting words in demodonkey's mouth, lecturing her about HAVA or worse yet her own state's laws that you obviously know nothing about for godssake? Anyone can see that you have no fucking idea of the problems facing Pennsylvania.

You certainly DO disrespect demodonkey, who is one of the few people left on this board who has been out there actually walking the walk for election integrity the last four or more years. Demodonkey and people like her have been out in the world making sacrifices for election integrity while some people remain on DU, making noise.

Everyone FUCKING knows that you need to audit elections so you can shut off YOUR broken record about that anytime. We also all know that in order to have an audit you first need to have something TO audit. If you don't think a federal bill is going to pass (or don't want one) why don't you shut your damn piehole and help Pennsylvania and some of these other states that are still stuck with DREs ---- instead of disrespecting dedicated people who are doing their best to get rid of the DREs whereever and however they practically can?

I won't pump up your damn ego and give you credit for the loss the Holt bills because the FACT is that people inside the beltway just laugh at people like you and these HCPB whack-jobs. People who live in dreamland thinking we are going to get happy citizens to cheerfully and honestly count paper ballots for hours on end on election night, and who think we are going to get the happy state legislators to cheerfully pass laws allowing them to do it. Dream on, nutjobs. And then there is you, lecturing someone like demodonkey about HAVA and laws of her own state. MFG.

All the while in the meantime Feinstein is fixing to move HER bill, either in this Congress or if not then early on in the 111th.

I've lurked on this board for over 5 years now and it is pathetic how far things have fallen. This forum has gone down the drain and no longer is of much use to anyone because of people liike you and these HCPB nuts that drove most of the productive people away. And the loss of this board is a loss of something that helped organize in the aftermath of 2004 and COULD have helped organize and prepare for 2008.

Soif we get President McCain in another funky election this time. or trouble in 2010 or beyond, may you all enjoy the fruits of your labors. And may you also all rot in hell.


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  -Transparent Ballot Box, for 500 - 800 Paper Ballots, with Deposit Trap and Counter kster  Aug-16-08 01:53 PM   #0 
  - The FIRST !! K &R  galloglas   Aug-16-08 07:09 PM   #1 
  - Thanks galloglas, I guess Common Sense in counting ballots  kster   Aug-17-08 10:46 PM   #3 
  - kick..nt  kster   Aug-17-08 06:31 PM   #2 
  - Made and used in a country where voters don't vote for individual candidates  eridani   Aug-18-08 08:37 PM   #4 
  - Why are these people able to count complicated ballots by hand  kster   Aug-18-08 08:57 PM   #5 
  - Their "gift" is a trivially small number of ballots to count  eridani   Aug-18-08 09:22 PM   #6 
     - The video shows complicated paper ballots being hand counted, NO?  kster   Aug-18-08 09:45 PM   #7 
     - They are bloody well not in 3 congressional districts and 17 state legislative districts  eridani   Aug-18-08 11:35 PM   #8 
     - I don't think the number of ballots is the prpblem.  Bill Bored   Aug-24-08 12:10 AM   #46 
  - Gotcher back here-- I'm a poll worker, too, and...  TreasonousBastard   Aug-19-08 02:33 PM   #9 
     - I laugh at the clowns who defend any  kster   Aug-19-08 05:12 PM   #10 
     - Break out the vomit buckets, here we go again.  demodonkey   Aug-19-08 05:19 PM   #11 
     - yup, what you said n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-19-08 05:29 PM   #12 
     - I had no doubt that you would agree with that  kster   Aug-20-08 10:45 PM   #23 
        - at some point...  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-21-08 05:16 AM   #24 
        - You spin it any way you want Sir/Madam but, as I said  kster   Aug-21-08 11:52 PM   #26 
           - ?!  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-22-08 05:34 AM   #32 
        - So, whose National Guard were you planning to use to make mail voters  eridani   Aug-22-08 03:55 AM   #29 
     - as the world turns  BeFree   Aug-19-08 05:40 PM   #13 
     - A Picture a Video and a little Common Sense and we  kster   Aug-19-08 10:33 PM   #17 
     - There's a few broken records.  Wilms   Aug-19-08 09:45 PM   #16 
        - DREs are NOT "losing ground" in Pennsylvania to ANYTHING.  demodonkey   Aug-21-08 11:46 PM   #25 
           - You're yelling. Calming down could help.  Wilms   Aug-22-08 10:31 AM   #34 
              - Yep, what ever your flavor is  kster   Aug-22-08 10:06 PM   #36 
              - Yelling? You want yelling? Read this.  UnitedVoters   Aug-25-08 01:22 PM   #57 
                 - oh, jeepers, could you dial this down?  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-25-08 01:42 PM   #58 
                 - No I could not dial this down. I'm sick of this.  UnitedVoters   Aug-25-08 02:56 PM   #59 
                    - hey, I was here too  OnTheOtherHand   Aug-25-08 03:35 PM   #61 
                 - Actually, where do you get off putting words in my mouth?  Wilms   Aug-25-08 09:44 PM   #62 
                 - You're damn straight. People like you make me angry as hell.  UnitedVoters   Aug-26-08 09:25 AM   #69 
                    - So you are only willing to waste my time telling me what a bad guy you think I am. OK.  Wilms   Aug-26-08 10:36 AM   #70 
                    - The problem with you is...  UnitedVoters   Aug-26-08 12:20 PM   #71 
                       - So if I don't organize a strategy here on DU I can't comment and shouldn't post news stories?  Wilms   Aug-27-08 02:25 AM   #74 
                    - I had a brother, United. HE IS DEAD. Shame on Wilms for bringing this up in this thread.  demodonkey   Aug-30-08 11:27 AM   #79 
                       - What you are doing now is what you've done before. I think it's inappropriate.  Wilms   Aug-30-08 12:33 PM   #80 
                       - I am so sorry for your loss, Demodonkey.  UnitedVoters   Sep-01-08 01:52 PM   #84 
                          - That seems a bit ad hominem.  Wilms   Sep-01-08 07:14 PM   #85 
                             - You, of course, NEVER post anything that is ad hominem... Riighht.  UnitedVoters   Sep-02-08 09:14 AM   #87 
                                - be the change you want to see...  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-02-08 10:00 AM   #90 
                                   - OTOH...  UnitedVoters   Sep-02-08 01:17 PM   #92 
                                      - well, I'm sorry to hear that  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-02-08 02:21 PM   #93 
                 - Its WHERE AND WHEN the audit is done that matters  kster   Aug-25-08 11:24 PM   #65 
     - I suppose you want to do away with...  TreasonousBastard   Aug-19-08 07:16 PM   #14 
     - ATMs are fully secured by the customers and the bank  kster   Aug-19-08 08:58 PM   #15 
     - I still haven't heard about your trip to the BoE and...  TreasonousBastard   Aug-19-08 11:33 PM   #18 
     - Common Sense with no diversions......  kster   Aug-20-08 12:02 AM   #19 
     - If, however, you were in need of 100 $1 dollar bills,...  yowzayowzayowza   Aug-20-08 03:31 AM   #20 
        - Why does the bank always want the teller to do a 100% hand count of  kster   Aug-20-08 02:47 PM   #21 
           - Zing. n/t  yowzayowzayowza   Aug-20-08 04:14 PM   #22 
     - There is no way, even in theory, that voting machines could ever be like ATMs  eridani   Aug-22-08 04:04 AM   #30 
     - Votes are NOT financial transactions. As a poll worker, you should know the difference. nt  Bill Bored   Aug-24-08 12:34 AM   #47 
     - Neighborhood people are no more trustworthy than downtowners or machines  eridani   Aug-22-08 03:54 AM   #28 
        - Correct, the second count must be done AT THE POLLING PLACE  kster   Aug-22-08 10:03 AM   #33 
           - That would be optimum. However there is a slight problem.  eridani   Aug-23-08 03:15 AM   #37 
              - That's a different issue. Those votes are inherently insecure to begin with.  Bill Bored   Aug-24-08 12:51 AM   #49 
                 - Security problems can be dealt with by better oversight.  eridani   Aug-25-08 02:03 AM   #53 
                    - Duplicators huh? No wonder folks want to vote absentee -- they get to vote twice! nt  Bill Bored   Aug-25-08 02:58 AM   #54 
                       - No, the original is stamped ORIGINAL in red and it and the original and the stamped  eridani   Aug-25-08 03:19 AM   #55 
                          - No that's not how levers work. You can change the vote as many times as you want.  Bill Bored   Aug-25-08 10:07 PM   #63 
                             - I don't get you, you are defending a machine that is paperless  kster   Aug-25-08 11:42 PM   #66 
                             - How do you cancel your vote after you've pulled the lever? n/t  eridani   Aug-26-08 02:26 AM   #67 
     - Electronic voting is bloody well NOT the way to go  eridani   Aug-22-08 03:52 AM   #27 
     - Not so fast.  yowzayowzayowza   Aug-23-08 10:20 AM   #39 
        - A bill is either there or it isn't there  eridani   Aug-23-08 08:06 PM   #41 
           - Agree, but...  yowzayowzayowza   Aug-23-08 09:26 PM   #43 
              - Good thing that the folks who print bills are way better at their jobs than  eridani   Aug-23-08 09:56 PM   #45 
     - exactly the problem: "they seem to do the job needed."  emlev   Aug-26-08 11:41 PM   #72 
  - What would help put an end to insanity is for everyone who bloviated  eridani   Aug-22-08 04:10 AM   #31 
  - You don't have to be a pollworker to know that  kster   Aug-22-08 03:26 PM   #35 
     - As long as there are large numbers of people who mail in their ballots--  eridani   Aug-23-08 03:17 AM   #38 
        - It Must be done that way "can't" is not an option  kster   Aug-23-08 08:32 PM   #42 
           - So, do you actually have any real achievements as an election integrity activist?  eridani   Aug-23-08 09:52 PM   #44 
              - OK, LET ME DUMB THIS DOWN FOR YOU, a six or seven year old  kster   Aug-24-08 12:47 AM   #48 
                 - Now, suipposing the mail-in ballots were never in a polling place to begin with? n/t  eridani   Aug-24-08 02:20 AM   #50 
                    - We are discussing when and where ballots must be counted,  kster   Aug-24-08 09:29 PM   #51 
                       - You and what army will force absentee voters to become poll voters? n/t  eridani   Aug-25-08 01:53 AM   #52 
                          - Did you read my post? nt  kster   Aug-25-08 11:05 AM   #56 
                             - Yes. Answer the question. n/t  eridani   Aug-25-08 03:02 PM   #60 
                                - Put your ballot in  kster   Aug-25-08 11:07 PM   #64 
                                   - People prefer mail in voting by 70% in my state  eridani   Aug-26-08 02:29 AM   #68 
                                      - Tell them the truth, and you won't have to force anyone  kster   Aug-27-08 12:01 AM   #73 
                                         - And they'll tell you to go straight to hell  eridani   Aug-27-08 10:21 AM   #75 
                                            - They would tell me to go to hell for telling them the truth??  kster   Aug-28-08 12:30 AM   #76 
                                               - Telling them the truth accomplishes nothing in the real world  eridani   Aug-28-08 04:07 AM   #77 
                                                  - OK, I'll let THE MAN explain it to you  kster   Aug-29-08 11:52 PM   #78 
                                                     - You didn't read your own reference apparently  eridani   Aug-30-08 08:34 PM   #81 
                                                     - Fabulous, where will your hand count audit be done?  kster   Aug-31-08 01:40 AM   #82 
                                                     - As a pollworker, I approve the following process  eridani   Aug-31-08 02:20 AM   #83 
                                                     - OR WE CAN USE OUR COMMON SENSE  kster   Sep-01-08 10:41 PM   #86 
                                                     - Dupe.  UnitedVoters   Sep-02-08 09:27 AM   #88 
                                                     - HAND COUNT THE GODDAMN PAPER BALLOTS HAND COUNT THE GODDAMN PAPER BALLOTS  UnitedVoters   Sep-02-08 09:28 AM   #89 
                                                     - very true n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Sep-02-08 10:01 AM   #91 
                                                     - Common Sense, HAND COUNT THE GODDAMN PAPER BALLOTS, BEFORE THE BALLOTS LEAVE THE POLLING PLACE!!  kster   Sep-04-08 11:05 PM   #94 
  - GREAT. I always wanted to see how others vote!  L. Coyote   Aug-23-08 02:55 PM   #40 
  - kick...nt  kster   Sep-04-08 11:40 PM   #95 
  - KICK TO ADD PHOTO  kster   Sep-05-08 12:04 PM   #96 
  - "This product is no longer available" n/t  JimDandy   Sep-18-08 05:10 AM   #97 
     - Thats alright I'd rather have it made in the USA anyway  kster   Sep-18-08 11:00 AM   #98 
 

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