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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 11:31 AM
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34. You're yelling. Calming down could help.
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 12:22 PM by Wilms
DREs are on the way out. That's a fact including what you report happening in PA. I've said time and again that the paper based systems lacking meaningful audits are no less insecure. I realize that's tough for the "at least I voted on paper" crowd to accept, but it's fact. And some of us prefer dealing with facts.

HAVA doesn't ban HCPB or lever machines. Some people don't realize this. Your HCPB districts were not lost to HAVA in 2006 as you claim. They were lost to the misinterpretation of HAVA (and a dose of PA cut and drop law and Populex ballot markers not making it). Your lever machines were lost in a similar way. But when you got activists bent on a paper ballot and unable or unwilling to get good counsel on HAVA, that's what happens. See NY.

What I've said time and again, now paraphrasing you, is that FL2000 and OH2004 were "deadly serious" disasters that were both paper-based. Some of us prefer dealing with facts, despite the "trademark" mantras.

Three Holt bills have failed. You want a fourth one? Knock yourself out and then come back and tell us all about sleeping in the car so we can feel sorry for you. I don't mean any disrespect, but your haranguing over PA is only so different than the incessant bleating of the resident HCPBer.

The Fed ain't gonna fix PA. Many other states, with and without paper, are just as vulnerable.

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