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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:33 AM
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18. I still haven't heard about your trip to the BoE and...
how they accomodated your demand for hand-counted paper ballots. Are they still laughing hysterically? Did they call security?

In fact, I haven't heard a thing from any of you paper ballot guys that properly argues against what people who actually work at the polls think about paper ballots. Nor have I heard a thing from you guys that argues against what real programmers and accountants who have dealt with audit trails think about hand counting anything.

Audit trails? Heard about them? If you spend some time learning about them, preferably in a real job that deals with them, you'll find out that audit trails are what you've been really looking for all this time. And they've been around at least since double-entry bookkeeping was invented. Unfortunately, while companies like Diebold are expert at it when dealing with cash, they kind of lost it in the vote machine end of things. Other companies now getting the business now know what they're doing, though.

Anyway, we were talking about all this while playing with the new Sequoia machines today. We didn't talk about it for long, but we did point out that every one of the objections from the activists is moot-- when you actually use the machine you realize all the the objections were made by people who had never seen the machines and have no idea how they work.

So, OK, go ahead and believe that people who actually work the polls and deal with all this sound silly when they say your objections are shitstirring bullshit.

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