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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:36 PM
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10. Yes, all of that.
"No one is making new parts for these dinosaurian devices anymore, they are hard for disabled people to use and their error rate can be embarrassingly exposed in close elections, as happened two years ago, when State Senator Nicholas Spano of Yonkers saw his narrow election-night lead shrink drastically when the machines were merely double-checked. Officials with the federal Election Assistance Commission recently acknowledged a little-known flaw with lever machines: if they are dropped, that can make the vote tallies change. There have also been reports of a strange tendency of vote totals in lever machines to end in 99, as if their weary dials could not quite make the turn to 000."

Better than anything electronic, I suppose ... but not accurate, all the same.
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  -HOLT on LEVER MACHINES!: "These machines dont lie. What you see is what you get." Bill Bored  Feb-03-08 08:47 PM   #0 
  - thanks for the post  JoeIsOneOfUs   Feb-03-08 08:51 PM   #1 
  - lever machines can also be rigged.  lwfern   Feb-03-08 09:04 PM   #2 
  - other than the gears...  JoeIsOneOfUs   Feb-03-08 09:10 PM   #3 
  - Of course. You need a fully bi-partisan process.  Bill Bored   Feb-03-08 09:15 PM   #5 
  - thanks and see comment below n/t  JoeIsOneOfUs   Feb-03-08 09:47 PM   #11 
  - That's why both sides stand together for the tally.  aquart   Feb-03-08 09:26 PM   #8 
  - so what happens with third parties?  JoeIsOneOfUs   Feb-03-08 09:48 PM   #12 
     - Having been a volunteer poll watcher for just such machines...  jberryhill   Oct-09-08 10:15 PM   #20 
  - Yes, all of that.  lwfern   Feb-03-08 09:36 PM   #10 
     - I would not expect anyone at the EAC to be pro-lever.  Bill Bored   Feb-03-08 10:15 PM   #13 
  - I hear you, but you can swap 1 ballot definition file and SWITCH thousands of votes  Bill Bored   Feb-03-08 09:12 PM   #4 
  - I don't know why all these studies...  stillcool47   Feb-03-08 09:31 PM   #9 
  - Thanks for the link BTW. I've not yet familiarized myself with this work.  Bill Bored   Feb-03-08 09:21 PM   #6 
  - I LOVE MY LEVERS!!!!!  aquart   Feb-03-08 09:25 PM   #7 
  - There's 50 Ways To Love Your Lever  jberryhill   Oct-09-08 10:18 PM   #21 
  - Bob Holt should run for Congress! n/t  Wilms   Feb-04-08 12:37 AM   #14 
  - Bob Holt, Rush Holt and Rush Limbaugh all went to different schools together.  Bill Bored   Feb-04-08 03:45 AM   #15 
  - Damn I miss those "Baby Grands"  Froward69   Feb-04-08 09:41 AM   #16 
  - We still have them  Laurab   Feb-04-08 10:42 AM   #17 
  - No soft-target-ware needed  Wilms   Jun-29-08 06:27 PM   #18 
  - kick! nt  Bill Bored   Sep-27-08 02:29 PM   #19 
  - ACORN solution  jagerbb   Oct-10-08 11:03 AM   #22 
  - Jagerbb .... you could not be more wrong about acorn  althecat   Oct-11-08 12:53 AM   #23 
  - kick nt  Bill Bored   Oct-29-08 09:02 PM   #24 
  - kick nt  Bill Bored   Jan-05-09 12:11 AM   #25 
  - .  Bill Bored   Feb-08-09 09:34 PM   #26 
  - .  Bill Bored   Feb-20-09 08:31 PM   #27 
  - Still pushing these mechanical paperless vote counting machines  kster   Feb-20-09 10:55 PM   #28 
  - .  Bill Bored   Jun-26-09 10:25 PM   #29 

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