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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:12 PM
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4. I hear you, but you can swap 1 ballot definition file and SWITCH thousands of votes
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 09:23 PM by Bill Bored
on hundreds of machines.

I'm just not comfortable with that, and these paper ballots provide one hell of a false sense of security if no one ever hand counts any of them.

Hopefully, FL will come around and come up with a meaningful audit of their scanned paper ballots statewide. They've been through enough.

BTW, I hear the same sort of things about prosecuting the FL punch card scandal(s) in 2000. (It was not just Sequoia.)
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  -HOLT on LEVER MACHINES!: "These machines dont lie. What you see is what you get." Bill Bored  Feb-03-08 08:47 PM   #0 
  - thanks for the post  JoeIsOneOfUs   Feb-03-08 08:51 PM   #1 
  - lever machines can also be rigged.  lwfern   Feb-03-08 09:04 PM   #2 
  - other than the gears...  JoeIsOneOfUs   Feb-03-08 09:10 PM   #3 
  - Of course. You need a fully bi-partisan process.  Bill Bored   Feb-03-08 09:15 PM   #5 
  - thanks and see comment below n/t  JoeIsOneOfUs   Feb-03-08 09:47 PM   #11 
  - That's why both sides stand together for the tally.  aquart   Feb-03-08 09:26 PM   #8 
  - so what happens with third parties?  JoeIsOneOfUs   Feb-03-08 09:48 PM   #12 
     - Having been a volunteer poll watcher for just such machines...  jberryhill   Oct-09-08 10:15 PM   #20 
  - Yes, all of that.  lwfern   Feb-03-08 09:36 PM   #10 
     - I would not expect anyone at the EAC to be pro-lever.  Bill Bored   Feb-03-08 10:15 PM   #13 
  - I hear you, but you can swap 1 ballot definition file and SWITCH thousands of votes  Bill Bored   Feb-03-08 09:12 PM   #4 
  - I don't know why all these studies...  stillcool47   Feb-03-08 09:31 PM   #9 
  - Thanks for the link BTW. I've not yet familiarized myself with this work.  Bill Bored   Feb-03-08 09:21 PM   #6 
  - I LOVE MY LEVERS!!!!!  aquart   Feb-03-08 09:25 PM   #7 
  - There's 50 Ways To Love Your Lever  jberryhill   Oct-09-08 10:18 PM   #21 
  - Bob Holt should run for Congress! n/t  Wilms   Feb-04-08 12:37 AM   #14 
  - Bob Holt, Rush Holt and Rush Limbaugh all went to different schools together.  Bill Bored   Feb-04-08 03:45 AM   #15 
  - Damn I miss those "Baby Grands"  Froward69   Feb-04-08 09:41 AM   #16 
  - We still have them  Laurab   Feb-04-08 10:42 AM   #17 
  - No soft-target-ware needed  Wilms   Jun-29-08 06:27 PM   #18 
  - kick! nt  Bill Bored   Sep-27-08 02:29 PM   #19 
  - ACORN solution  jagerbb   Oct-10-08 11:03 AM   #22 
  - Jagerbb .... you could not be more wrong about acorn  althecat   Oct-11-08 12:53 AM   #23 
  - kick nt  Bill Bored   Oct-29-08 09:02 PM   #24 
  - kick nt  Bill Bored   Jan-05-09 12:11 AM   #25 
  - .  Bill Bored   Feb-08-09 09:34 PM   #26 
  - .  Bill Bored   Feb-20-09 08:31 PM   #27 
  - Still pushing these mechanical paperless vote counting machines  kster   Feb-20-09 10:55 PM   #28 
  - .  Bill Bored   Jun-26-09 10:25 PM   #29 

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