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bolipari Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-05-08 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #54
55. Bo's Response to Defamatory Comments

Interesting that you accuse me of lying, "Wilms", but you have your facts wrong. Listen to the tape of the show. My statements were accurate. The article you referenced has now been pulled from OpEd News because of it "lied" (your phrase) about my statements. Please see my statement below. And next time, check your facts before you represent people as liars who you know nothing about.

The article posted by Rady Ananda is false, defamatory, and misrepresents what I said on the Voice of the Voter radio show on July 2, 2008. Im angry and surprised that a fellow advocate would post such a defamatory post, and that a website which is supposed to celebrate activism would publish it.

What I said on the radio show is accurate and I stand by it- that currently, the highest Court in the land that has ruled on lever machines and HAVA, the US District Court of the Northern District, has stated unequivocally that lever machines must be replaced by 2009. There is a Court order that is clear, and statements made by the judge are clear, and the NYS Board of Elections is complying with the order. As currently no other court in the nation has issued an opinion about lever machines and HAVA, I stand by the statements I made on the radio program - that the highest court in the land that has issued an opinion says lever machines must go. We can nit pick the meaning of Court Order vs. Court Ruling, but the outcome is the same the Court says no more lever machines.

The other issue Rady notes about a question from Dennis Karius is also false. The question has been posed to me by Mr. Karius in many forms over the last two weeks, and he has been answered repeatedly on the phone and by email, and on NYVVs private email list, of which Mr. Karius is a member. In response to his question to the VOV radio, I sent a Mr. Karius an email (which was copied to the radio producers as well) answering, yet again his question. So the question was, as they say in Court, asked and answered. I note also that Mr. Karius question, about a potential hand count in Ulster County, had absolutely nothing to do with the topic of the show are NYs machines ready for prime time.

I have been attacked constantly since January by activists, almost all of whom are from outside New York State, who believe that NYVVs decision to work for paper ballots and optical scanners in NY was flawed. They are welcome to their opinion, but the attacks on me, which have culminated in this insulting piece on OpEd news, is beyond the pale. How sad that you would waste time and energy attacking someone who has done nothing but work for election integrity for over five years.

-Bo Lipari
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  -Why doesn't Bo Lipari get a job selling Optical Scan? Wilms  Jan-21-08 04:10 PM   #0 
  - WTF are you talking about? New York...  TreasonousBastard   Jan-21-08 04:51 PM   #1 
  - "...they're great-- easy to use and error/fraud free."  Wilms   Jan-21-08 05:22 PM   #2 
     - To our county BoE it is very clear that...  TreasonousBastard   Jan-21-08 05:50 PM   #3 
     - So what scanner, if any, do you have in mind?  Wilms   Jan-21-08 05:57 PM   #4 
        - I don't have any in mind because...  TreasonousBastard   Jan-21-08 06:07 PM   #5 
           - DRE's are not off the table.  Wilms   Jan-21-08 07:30 PM   #6 
              - I wouldn't be surprised if a few places...  TreasonousBastard   Jan-21-08 08:25 PM   #7 
     - levers verses HCPB verses optical scan  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-27-08 01:11 AM   #12 
        - Links please.  Wilms   Jan-27-08 10:05 AM   #13 
        - Here's a "higher cost" story.  Wilms   Jan-27-08 02:21 PM   #15 
        - Smoke em while you got em, the vote count scam is over  kster   Mar-29-08 03:08 AM   #44 
  - Well, at least he's not pushing LHS and Diebold and calling it "the Accuvote"  Bill Bored   Jan-22-08 01:03 AM   #8 
  - I've found out that's an edited version not including it.  Wilms   Jan-26-08 08:31 PM   #9 
     - He's a tireless advocate against DREs. That's not a bad thing.  Bill Bored   Jan-26-08 11:13 PM   #10 
  - Why?  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-27-08 01:06 AM   #11 
  - As I've said before...  Wilms   Jan-27-08 10:07 AM   #14 
  - Opscans use electronic ballots too (they image the paper and count THAT IMAGE)  Land Shark   Jan-27-08 02:57 PM   #16 
  - We owe Bo Lipari, NYVV and activists across the state a big debt of gratitude  bernesebernese   Jan-28-08 02:34 PM   #17 
  - oh, they've been insulted too...  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-28-08 04:40 PM   #18 
  - Largely what OTOH said.  Wilms   Jan-28-08 10:32 PM   #19 
     - the OP makes a personal attack on Bo  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-28-08 10:38 PM   #20 
     - Obviously, I disagree.  Wilms   Jan-28-08 10:41 PM   #21 
        - DU - the Anti Activists and The Election Reform Forum  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-28-08 10:53 PM   #22 
        - What? It's OK as long as it's an activist who YOU think is headed in a wrong direction?  Wilms   Jan-28-08 11:17 PM   #23 
        - It's all relative.  btmlndfrmr   Jan-28-08 11:19 PM   #24 
        - proof?  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-29-08 01:31 PM   #30 
           - The jury's still out. See post #29. nt  Bill Bored   Jan-29-08 09:32 PM   #31 
           - You're listening right past me.  Wilms   Jan-29-08 11:45 PM   #32 
     - well, you know...  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-29-08 05:13 AM   #25 
        - No. It isn't pleasant at all.  Wilms   Jan-29-08 09:59 AM   #26 
           - The reason the Liberty DRE was NOT certified is that the machine is NOT ACCESSIBLE enough  Bill Bored   Jan-29-08 12:12 PM   #27 
           - eh  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-29-08 12:12 PM   #28 
              - NY election law requires cut-and-drop VVPATs. They are just as auditiable  Bill Bored   Jan-29-08 12:55 PM   #29 
              - whoa  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-30-08 07:23 AM   #35 
                 - The point is that somehow election officials have the idea that a 3% audit  Bill Bored   Jan-30-08 10:38 PM   #37 
              - Feh.  Wilms   Jan-29-08 11:59 PM   #33 
                 - I think there is more to it  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-30-08 05:49 AM   #34 
                    - Did I say the BoE was/is united?  Wilms   Jan-30-08 09:18 PM   #36 
                    - The Election Commissioners Assn. of the State of NY wanted to keep levers  Bill Bored   Jan-30-08 10:43 PM   #38 
  - Kick  Wilms   Mar-27-08 09:10 PM   #39 
  - DRE and Optiscans are equally evil? Not true  Einsteinia   Mar-28-08 06:15 PM   #40 
  - But no one is using scanners the way you suggest Einsteinia.  Bill Bored   Mar-29-08 12:52 AM   #41 
     - "and not a lot of paper ballots either" walk softly Bill  kster   Mar-29-08 01:38 AM   #42 
     - I think once those scanners are in place, with all those paper ballots,  Bill Bored   Mar-29-08 03:00 AM   #43 
        - I think you are crazy to support  kster   Mar-29-08 03:28 AM   #45 
           - So we are going to spend millions on scanners so we can HAND COUNT? Get real!  Bill Bored   Mar-29-08 03:32 PM   #46 
              - For now, YES, let the crooks feel  kster   Mar-30-08 02:35 AM   #47 
     - True but NOT for long --Sign here:  Einsteinia   Mar-31-08 05:41 PM   #48 
        - Forced vote by mail? Where's that besides Oregon?  Bill Bored   Apr-02-08 11:52 PM   #49 
  - Optical Scan = Electronic Vote Counting n/t  Wilms   Apr-19-08 02:43 PM   #50 
  - It's nice that Liberty Election System is bailing on efforts to sell DREs to NYers  Wilms   Apr-24-08 10:21 PM   #51 
  - Optical scanners are the same as a "get away car"  kster   Apr-24-08 11:16 PM   #52 
     - If you insist on going off topic, I'd appreciated you not posting on my threads.  Wilms   Apr-26-08 06:05 PM   #53 
  - Still Lying: Bo Lipari's Deceit on Voice of the Voters  Wilms   Jul-03-08 08:47 AM   #54 
  - Bo's Response to Defamatory Comments  bolipari   Jul-05-08 02:59 PM   #55 
     - Perhaps I should have posted the clarification here, as well as the original thread.  Wilms   Jul-05-08 03:46 PM   #56 
  - Bo Lpari insults election advocates wary of his computerized vote counting contraptions.  Wilms   Apr-11-10 09:51 AM   #57 
     - well  WillYourVoteBCounted   Apr-11-10 05:05 PM   #58 
        - You can make those arguments but they are as likely to be untrue.  Wilms   Apr-11-10 06:30 PM   #59 
           - really?  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-10 08:06 AM   #60 
              - Oh I am absolutely sure it depends "who decides what counts as studying the issue closely".  Wilms   Apr-12-10 10:45 AM   #61 
                 - for what it is worth  WillYourVoteBCounted   Apr-12-10 10:58 AM   #62 
                    - If the debate was centered on FACTS, that would be the case.  Wilms   Apr-12-10 11:07 AM   #63 
                    - This post might provide some insight into the situation in NY:  Bill Bored   Apr-13-10 01:59 PM   #64 
 

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