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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:52 AM
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41. But no one is using scanners the way you suggest Einsteinia.
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 01:02 AM by Bill Bored
In fact, the trend is to accept scanner tallies as gospel, or just rescan the ballots on ANOTHER scanner and call it an "audit" or "recount." There are jurisdictions in the country right now that will HAND COUNT DRE VVPATs, but only RESCAN mark-sense ballots. That's NOT where we want to be!

So alas, what can we do?

In NY, we now have a state with virtually NO electronic vote counting, NO software running our elections, and not a lot of paper ballots either (only absentees and provisionals which may only be about 6% of the vote).

To move to paper ballots under current law, we would have to go with virtually 100% electronic vote counting, only 3% hand counts about 2 weeks after the election, and no real possibility of a recount unless a discrepancy happens to exist in the 3% delayed hand count, or perhaps if the margin is razor thin.

So, while I have nothing against proper audits of electronic vote counts, there is nothing yet on the the table in NY to ensure that this will happen.

So in that situation, what would you do? Throw out a working, transparent, non-software driven, non-electronic voting system, just so you can have scanned paper ballots with 3% random audits? I don't think so.

So the best answer I can come with, until such time as the scanner jockeys can come up with a plan to tell us who really won our most important elections, is to live and let live. Let Bo and his Bots kill the DREs while the other factions figure out how to make computerized electronic paper ballot scanners safe for democracy, or how not to have to use them either.
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