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48. kucinich is going for a recount!!!
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 01:53 AM by orleans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5544

and the best yet:

http://www.dennis4president.com/go/homepage-items/kucin... /



Kucinich asks for New Hampshire recount in the interest of election integrity

DETROIT, MI Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, the most outspoken advocate in the Presidential field and in Congress for election integrity, paper-ballot elections, and campaign finance reform, has sent a letter to the New Hampshire Secretary of State asking for a recount of Tuesdays election because of unexplained disparities between hand-counted ballots and machine-counted ballots.

I am not making this request in the expectation that a recount will significantly affect the number of votes that were cast on my behalf, Kucinich stressed in a letter to Secretary of State William M. Gardner. But, Serious and credible reports, allegations, and rumors have surfaced in the past few daysIt is imperative that these questions be addressed in the interest of public confidence in the integrity of the election process and the election machinery not just in New Hampshire, but in every other state that conducts a primary election.



Also, the reports, allegations, and rumors regarding possible vote-count irregularities have been further fueled by the stunning disparities between various independent pre-election polls and the actual election results," Kucinich wrote. "The integrity, credibility, and value of independent polling are separate issues, but they appear to be relevant in the context of New Hampshires votes."

He added, Ever since the 2000 election and even before the American people have been losing faith in the belief that their votes were actually counted. This recount isnt about who won 39% of 36% or even 1%. Its about establishing whether 100% of the voters had 100% of their votes counted exactly the way they cast them.

Kucinich, who drew about 1.4% of the New Hampshire Democratic primary vote, wrote, This is not about my candidacy or any other individual candidacy. It is about the integrity of the election process. No other Democratic candidate, he noted, has stepped forward to question or pursue the claims being made.

New Hampshire is in the unique position to address and, if so determined, rectify these issues before they escalate into a massive, nationwide suspicion of the process by which Americans elect their President. Based on the controversies surrounding the Presidential elections in 2004 and 2000, New Hampshire is in a prime position to investigate possible irregularities and to issue findings for the benefit of the entire nation, Kucinich wrote in his letter.

Without an official recount, the voters of New Hampshire and the rest of the nation will never know whether there are flaws in our electoral system that need to be identified and addressed at this relatively early point in the Presidential nominating process, said Kucinich, who is campaigning in Michigan this week in advance of next Tuesdays Presidential primary in that state.


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  -About the NH votes ....(Important) lala_rawraw  Jan-10-08 10:38 AM   #0 
  - Thanks for taking a reasonable look at this n/t  rox63   Jan-10-08 10:48 AM   #1 
  - sure, i am just trying  lala_rawraw   Jan-10-08 03:55 PM   #18 
     - thank you, well stated!  Voice for Peace   Jan-11-08 09:51 AM   #65 
  - K&R  helderheid   Jan-10-08 10:49 AM   #2 
  - Thanks LaLa, funny how some folks worked hard at making ER folks look foolish  mod mom   Jan-10-08 10:50 AM   #3 
  - i think emotions can get in the way sometimes...  lala_rawraw   Jan-10-08 11:00 AM   #8 
  - Troubling that some care MORE about their candidate than saving democracy  eowyn_of_rohan   Jan-11-08 06:30 AM   #55 
  - Wonder why anybody would be against verifying elections?  creeksneakers2   Jan-11-08 08:31 AM   #59 
     - You've forgotten that exit polls are "adjusted" by  AikidoSoul   Jan-11-08 09:30 AM   #63 
        - The original exit polls showed a close race  creeksneakers2   Jan-11-08 10:53 AM   #66 
           - The trouble with computerized counting or tabulation is that there IS NO EVIDENCE  AikidoSoul   Jan-12-08 06:08 PM   #74 
  - Well said. It is incredible how people react when this topic comes  truckin   Jan-10-08 10:53 AM   #4 
  - Thank you. A voice of reason. Rage against the machines, not a candidate.  deminks   Jan-10-08 10:53 AM   #5 
  - "This conversation should be had, not censored..."  foo_bar   Jan-10-08 10:54 AM   #6 
  - excellent... i had not seen that...  lala_rawraw   Jan-10-08 11:01 AM   #9 
  - Thank you Lala -- Now, when the problem is between 2 Dems, is the time to  IndyOp   Jan-10-08 10:57 AM   #7 
  - we can also just get drunk...  lala_rawraw   Jan-10-08 11:02 AM   #10 
  - Will you ever accept the fact that voter fraud, alone, is the only issue here?  DCKit   Jan-10-08 11:47 AM   #11 
  - I do think that so long as Diebold is used...  lala_rawraw   Jan-10-08 12:19 PM   #12 
  - Unfortunately ES&S, Triad and the rest are suspect as well. They're all owned  diane in sf   Jan-10-08 07:09 PM   #23 
  - It's election fraud. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 06:56 PM   #21 
  - Hear, hear!  kma3346   Jan-10-08 01:16 PM   #13 
  - Can anyone tell me why votes kept backtracking?  Digit   Jan-10-08 01:21 PM   #14 
  - That looks like update lag in their server farm  unc70   Jan-10-08 02:46 PM   #16 
  - I'm wondering that too...  stillcool47   Jan-11-08 12:17 PM   #71 
  - kicking for Andy! n/t  vickiss   Jan-10-08 01:54 PM   #15 
  - god i miss him!  lala_rawraw   Jan-10-08 03:54 PM   #17 
     - He was an amazing guy!  vickiss   Jan-10-08 09:13 PM   #30 
  - Thanks, and a K&R.  Kurovski   Jan-10-08 06:52 PM   #19 
  - Excellent L  althecat   Jan-10-08 06:54 PM   #20 
  - It's occurred to me one goal might be to discredit the polls  starroute   Jan-10-08 07:07 PM   #22 
  - This is my #1 reason for wanting a recount. I think the same thing. We have to challenge this!  rudy23   Jan-10-08 08:32 PM   #26 
  - Bingo! We have a winner!  Usrename   Jan-10-08 10:56 PM   #43 
  - Exit polls - Obama +1, Actual Results Clinton +3 - they were off by 4%  HughMoran   Jan-11-08 01:01 AM   #44 
  - That's been the goal since 2000  Spiffarino   Jan-11-08 01:21 AM   #46 
  - Or, perhaps say, Mark J Penn?  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-11-08 01:35 AM   #47 
  - He HAS been rather vocal about this particular result, hasn't he?  frogcycle   Jan-11-08 05:40 AM   #53 
  - Thanks for that Larissa!  AntiFascist   Jan-10-08 07:15 PM   #24 
  - Thanks LaLa !  doublethink   Jan-10-08 07:17 PM   #25 
  - Thank-you. This needs to be said loudly.  robinlynne   Jan-10-08 08:43 PM   #27 
  - I'm sorry. I've seen no hord of Obama supporters flogging this.  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 09:09 PM   #28 
  - the ignore list...  lala_rawraw   Jan-10-08 10:15 PM   #33 
     - My ignore list is really more like a time out list.  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 10:21 PM   #35 
        - good response,  crikkett   Jan-11-08 11:37 AM   #69 
  - You are too kind  Samantha   Jan-10-08 09:13 PM   #29 
  - someone noted up thread...  lala_rawraw   Jan-10-08 10:13 PM   #32 
  - Let us recall the fraud of 1972.  JackRiddler   Jan-10-08 09:48 PM   #31 
  - well said... as always n/t  lala_rawraw   Jan-10-08 10:16 PM   #34 
  - I retract my earlier 'sour grapes'.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-10-08 10:27 PM   #36 
  - Good on you. Welcome to the only reasonable course of action.  Bonobo   Jan-10-08 10:29 PM   #37 
  - You, sire, are a gentelman n/t  lala_rawraw   Jan-10-08 10:31 PM   #38 
  - I don't agree with those facts.  creeksneakers2   Jan-11-08 09:03 AM   #60 
     - I'm fine with getting to the bottom of it.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-11-08 12:10 PM   #70 
        - I'm happy to see audits  creeksneakers2   Jan-11-08 01:15 PM   #72 
  - Thanks Larisa (and important indeed!)  BradBlog   Jan-10-08 10:32 PM   #39 
  - To both of you.  btmlndfrmr   Jan-10-08 10:50 PM   #42 
  - K & R  Tuesday_Morning   Jan-10-08 10:34 PM   #40 
  - Agree, it's all about transparency  Muddy Waters Guitar   Jan-10-08 10:36 PM   #41 
  - Thank you lala.  balantz   Jan-11-08 01:13 AM   #45 
  - kucinich is going for a recount!!!  orleans   Jan-11-08 01:52 AM   #48 
  - excellent post . . . as it stands right now, we don't really know who won NH . . .  OneBlueSky   Jan-11-08 02:18 AM   #49 
  - k+r  Progs Rock   Jan-11-08 04:09 AM   #50 
  - Thank you. Amazing how soon people forget the stolen election of 2004 or 2000 for that matter.  TheGoldenRule   Jan-11-08 05:02 AM   #51 
  - Hear hear!  sss1977   Jan-11-08 05:37 AM   #52 
  - Great post! The machines have been my main concern  caseycoon   Jan-11-08 05:57 AM   #54 
  - It's worth taking a closer look.  ecdab   Jan-11-08 07:03 AM   #56 
  - Thank you for your hard work, and your calm rationality. I was a "hair on fire" poster  chimpymustgo   Jan-11-08 07:22 AM   #57 
  - Very Well Said lala_rawraw  fascisthunter   Jan-11-08 08:30 AM   #58 
  - We have to be very careful - DU/Skinner message related. In support of Lala.  higher class   Jan-11-08 09:15 AM   #61 
  - fully in support of you, lala  Lerkfish   Jan-11-08 09:23 AM   #62 
  - :D  lala_rawraw   Jan-11-08 11:11 AM   #67 
  - Well done LaLa  AikidoSoul   Jan-11-08 09:32 AM   #64 
  - My contention was the appearance of DU questioning BradBlog's credibility...  newburgh   Jan-11-08 11:17 AM   #68 
  - I have a couple questions. to lala or brad or whoever would know...  Whisp   Jan-11-08 02:11 PM   #73 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-09-08 09:19 PM   #75 
 

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