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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:46 AM
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41. I posted two threads about that last week. You are right.
The RW is really ramping up voter suppression operations all over the place.
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  -Bradblog, 2:47 AM: Chris Matthews: Raw EXIT POLL Data 'Indicated Significant Victory' for Obama in deminks  Jan-10-08 06:39 AM   #0 
  - Who'd a thunk it? Oh, wait. Most of us who followed 2004 Ohio.  Junkdrawer   Jan-10-08 06:44 AM   #1 
  - If Diebold is involved, you can't believe a bit of it.  Perry Logan   Jan-10-08 06:46 AM   #2 
  - Why is it that we distrust and loathe Chris Matthews when  oktoberain   Jan-10-08 06:47 AM   #3 
  - I would quote KKKarl Rove if he let go of a hint like this.  deminks   Jan-10-08 06:51 AM   #4 
  - I don't trust him - I would trust a hand count of the NH optiscan ballots.  JackRiddler   Jan-10-08 09:38 PM   #66 
  - My head is officially spinning. nt.  Warren Stupidity   Jan-10-08 06:55 AM   #5 
  - So Does This Happen Every Time Obama Loses A Primary?  KharmaTrain   Jan-10-08 07:08 AM   #6 
  - This has nothing to do with Obama.  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 07:18 AM   #8 
  - Most Of New Hampshire Had A Paper Trail...  KharmaTrain   Jan-10-08 07:58 AM   #12 
     - It's not a paper trail but scanned ballots.  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 08:02 AM   #16 
     - Paper ballots=paper trail.  smoogatz   Jan-10-08 08:16 AM   #23 
     - Unfortunately, most recounts need a trigger threshold.  Dr_eldritch   Jan-10-08 08:31 AM   #32 
     - Yep. We have a similar system here. But I seriously doubt  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 08:33 AM   #35 
     - Well, there doesn't seem to be any real reason to in this case.  smoogatz   Jan-10-08 08:59 AM   #46 
        - That's a good idea. This is ridiculous already, n/t  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 09:01 AM   #49 
        - No one has seen the raw exit poll data. I beg of you to review the actual facts.  cryingshame   Jan-10-08 09:02 AM   #50 
           - No one?  smoogatz   Jan-10-08 09:05 AM   #52 
              - The news organizations are not at all experienced in analyzing the data  truedelphi   Jan-10-08 09:36 PM   #65 
     - but they weren't recounted were they? Not even a random few as an audit.  cryingshame   Jan-10-08 09:01 AM   #48 
        - Why should they be?  smoogatz   Jan-10-08 09:10 AM   #55 
     - Any Convictions?  KharmaTrain   Jan-10-08 08:26 AM   #28 
        - Two convictions, iirc. Let's see if I can find a link.  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 08:32 AM   #34 
           - Link to Free Press article on Cuyahoga Co. convictions:  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 08:42 AM   #37 
           - The Central Office...  KharmaTrain   Jan-10-08 08:48 AM   #43 
              - I don't know. In my opinion, those will be harder to get simply  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 08:55 AM   #44 
                 - I See It Easier To Catch 'Em At The Local Level  KharmaTrain   Jan-10-08 09:06 AM   #53 
     - Paper trail means jack shit without meaningful audits. n/t  helderheid   Jan-10-08 08:17 AM   #25 
     - Historically, Exit Polls are accurate to within a 2% MOE, that's a 4% 'swing'.  Dr_eldritch   Jan-10-08 08:23 AM   #27 
        - And Polls Are Infallible?  KharmaTrain   Jan-10-08 08:38 AM   #36 
        - Go educate yourself. Here's a link;  Dr_eldritch   Jan-10-08 08:45 AM   #39 
        - And How Does This Relate To New Hampshire???  KharmaTrain   Jan-10-08 08:59 AM   #45 
        - good points  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-11-08 08:25 PM   #81 
        - speaking of education...  foo_bar   Jan-10-08 09:27 AM   #58 
           - So, there is no difference between "Within Percent Error" and "Margin of Error"?  Dr_eldritch   Jan-10-08 04:37 PM   #63 
              - to the contrary  foo_bar   Jan-11-08 12:15 AM   #68 
                 - LMAO! Pseudo-intellectual condescension does not become us.  Dr_eldritch   Jan-11-08 04:41 PM   #69 
                 - self-delete, wrong place.  Dr_eldritch   Jan-11-08 04:50 PM   #70 
                 - you not only lost the argument, you're making stuff up to pretend you didn't  foo_bar   Jan-11-08 05:14 PM   #72 
                    - Lame.  Dr_eldritch   Jan-11-08 06:21 PM   #73 
                       - "I was using it as an index as the function of the WPE is comparable to the funtional basis"  foo_bar   Jan-11-08 06:29 PM   #74 
                       - So you don't realize they use the same function.  Dr_eldritch   Jan-11-08 06:49 PM   #76 
                          - Your hovercraft is full of eels?  foo_bar   Jan-11-08 07:00 PM   #78 
                       - at foo_bar's request, or whatever...  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-11-08 08:14 PM   #80 
                          - I merely misphrased it. It should have read; "So far off FROM the MOE"  Dr_eldritch   Jan-12-08 03:11 PM   #86 
                 - Oh, so you DO spend time there. That's good.  Dr_eldritch   Jan-11-08 04:54 PM   #71 
                    - you're having trouble with the concepts of "there" and "here"  foo_bar   Jan-11-08 06:42 PM   #75 
                       - There's that PIC (Psuedo-Intellectual Condescension) again.  Dr_eldritch   Jan-11-08 06:52 PM   #77 
                          - that's the Making Up Acronyms again  foo_bar   Jan-12-08 12:38 PM   #82 
        - I posted two threads about that last week. You are right.  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 08:46 AM   #41 
        - Maybe I'm misreading this, but Matthews seems to be saying the raw exit polls  smoogatz   Jan-10-08 09:31 AM   #60 
           - Brad blog is spreading a misinterpretation of what Matthews said  creeksneakers2   Jan-12-08 02:14 PM   #83 
  - It happens ever damned time an election is held on electronic voting equipmet and no paper ballots  cryingshame   Jan-10-08 09:00 AM   #47 
  - Watching on election night, it was OBVIOUS! All of MSM remained silent for over 1 hour  Kip Humphrey   Jan-10-08 07:12 AM   #7 
  - What tripped my alarm wasn't that because I was busy.  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 07:24 AM   #9 
     - It's not just the orgy of fictions that makes me suspicious..  Usrename   Jan-11-08 12:00 AM   #67 
  - Looks like...  quickesst   Jan-10-08 07:52 AM   #10 
  - this has shit all to do with who you support. It's about transparent elections. Simple audits  cryingshame   Jan-10-08 09:05 AM   #51 
  - Tweety is talking out of his ass  Marrah_G   Jan-10-08 07:55 AM   #11 
  - of course you have no proof to offer.  Blarch   Jan-10-08 08:00 AM   #14 
     - Just what I and anyone listening to new england news heard  Marrah_G   Jan-10-08 08:04 AM   #17 
        - Fuck that.  Blarch   Jan-10-08 08:10 AM   #20 
           - The people of NH care what you think...........  Marrah_G   Jan-10-08 08:13 AM   #22 
           - All Dems have a problem with this? Why aren't any of the candidates calling for a hand count?  mondo joe   Jan-10-08 08:26 AM   #29 
              - Because it would be political suicide? Why should they --  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 08:44 AM   #38 
                 - Wow, so not ven one Dem candidate cares enough about fair elections to call for a  mondo joe   Jan-10-08 09:08 AM   #54 
                 - In the years I've been trying to follow and work on these issues,  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 01:38 PM   #62 
                 - Do you think if there was evidence of fraud the peole of NH would be quiet about it?  Marrah_G   Jan-10-08 09:10 AM   #56 
  - 5th rec  helderheid   Jan-10-08 07:59 AM   #13 
  - really? how come ABC News bloggers which were reported on their site on election day as the voting  book_worm   Jan-10-08 08:01 AM   #15 
  - You dismiss the legitimate concerns of people who have  sfexpat2000   Jan-10-08 08:05 AM   #18 
  - How does this dismiss legitimate election reform  Marrah_G   Jan-10-08 08:11 AM   #21 
  - self-delete  Marrah_G   Jan-10-08 09:13 AM   #57 
  - They were not quoting the raw exit polls. They would get into big trouble.  deminks   Jan-10-08 08:22 AM   #26 
     - We already have two links to prove that at 8PM  creeksneakers2   Jan-12-08 02:18 PM   #84 
  - Lord have mercy on us....of all people...Chris Matthews is THE authority.  Bitwit1234   Jan-10-08 08:05 AM   #19 
  - Same with the part of the exits that showed last minute deciders  Laura PackYourBags   Jan-10-08 08:17 AM   #24 
  - So Tweety is an asshat...except when he's not?  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Jan-10-08 08:28 AM   #30 
  - Tweety hasn't changed. He just let go of a big one. nt  deminks   Jan-10-08 08:31 AM   #33 
  - depends on which way the wind is blowing  Marrah_G   Jan-10-08 08:45 AM   #40 
  - This is rage against the machines, people, not Clinton or Obama or Kerry or Bush or Rove or...  deminks   Jan-10-08 08:29 AM   #31 
  - I can't believe if Hillary suffered a surprise dramatic loss  creeksneakers2   Jan-12-08 02:20 PM   #85 
  - Both the Governor and Secretary of State of NH are Democrats.  smoogatz   Jan-10-08 08:47 AM   #42 
  - Bradblog needs to hire a researcher/fact checker  foo_bar   Jan-10-08 09:27 AM   #59 
  - man, you have just been in the zone! n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Jan-11-08 07:54 PM   #79 
  - I, for one, like my new home.  deminks   Jan-10-08 10:00 AM   #61 
  - Yup, no reason to be suspicious here. Guess that Mod with the great vocab is right after all!  Bonobo   Jan-10-08 04:43 PM   #64 
 

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