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Febble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 02:38 AM
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19. "Why not?"?
Read the link I gave you. And although you could "get someone who will" (Steve Freeman, for example) they will never do a very good job for the reasons I give in the link. That's why you need RANDOM AUDITS - sample the votes not the voters, preferably entire precincts, not a sample from precincts, as mandated by HR811.

And if you think my analyses (pun on my handle not appreciated) are "narrow in focus" please specify why you think so, and why they are not sufficiently "descriptive or relational".

You seem confused as to whether your complaint is that the analyses of the data were inadequate or the poll itself was inadequate. By "many designs that might discover fraud and manipulation" I assume you mean poll designs, not analytical models. E-M design their poll to provide the information their clients hire them to find. To design to design a poll do the job you want them to do (which is virtually impossible anyway) they'd need to design a different (and vastly more extensive) poll. Do you expect their clients to pay for this? When it still wouldn't tell you what you want anyway? And when random manual audits will do the job much more accurately and much more cheaply?

And in fact, E-M did exactly what you asked - retropectively investigated, for example, whether there had been greater discrepancies precincts with different voting technologies, then hired me to investigate further, which I did.

So, when you talk about people who "shoot the messenger" - look first in the mirror, please.

Cheers


Lizzie
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