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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:02 PM
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16. This is where you are wrong.
"For what it's worth, if you want the networks to investigate in real-time election forensics, then it seems to me that you should lobby them, not the pollsters."

I've been a social science researcher for 30 years...and you are simply wrong. The vast majority of real researchers don't work for clients, companies, institutions, or universities. They want to do the job well and relish in getting it right. E-M is either (figuratively) staying up all night worried about why they can't get the polls to match the final tally, or else they are mercenaries. They are either concerned about election manipulation as a variable or else they are immoral and "not really researchers". The reseacher (pollsters in this case) have the OBLIGATION to get it right and explain undervotes, caging, inconsistent tallys, etc. Lobbying networks is silly. We all know from experience that it is the ethics and desires of the front line professional reseacher(s) that make the questions and report the answers. They have the opportunity and responsibility to explain what happens.

The pollsters, (E-M) in this case, need to show us their efforts to resolve the unknowns with an OPEN BOOK as to what worked and why or why not; or else they are in on the fix for money. If they try to do better and fail, it should be clearly evident why. Real time forensics or whatever else they want to do is not the issue! No more excuses. It is not like they haven't had enough controversy and criticism! They aren't starving either. Hold the front line pollsters to the fire and see what side they are on...

Sorry, if that doesn't make sense, then you simply haven't been there and done it.

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