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Febble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 01:02 PM
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84. Let me put in a good word for my friend too
he's certainly been working hard offline on audits.

I haven't had a huge amount to offer, not being an American, but I've chipped in from time to time from the sidelines.

But I do think that the Holt/audit debate runs the risk of being seriously warped by the conviction of those who believe that millions of votes were electronically stolen in 2004, the only evidence for which, apart from the self-evident fact that Bush is a bozo, is the exit poll evidence. And I am firmly convinced that that evidence doesn't do what it says on the tin. In fact I think it does the opposite, but whether it does the opposite or not, TIA's analyses certainly don't add up to a case for multi-million vote fraud in 2004.

And this matters particularly for the case for HCPB. IF I honestly thought that millions of votes had been stolen in 2004, I'd be in the HCPB camp too, nevermind the difficulties. I'd also be breaking down doors for prosecutions and convictions. But I think the evidence is that what is wrong with your elections is complete unaccountability, whether it's paper or something else. Therefore the really important thing is audits, and auditability.

That's why I think the exit poll debate matters (or rather why it is completely irrelevant, but why its perceived implications may be important to tackle).

Anyway, your point is taken.

Cheers

Lizzie
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