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Mon Jan-22-07 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #99 |
| 115. You need to prove *you* aren't crying wolf! |
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Joyce, your entire thread is directed at Michael Collins. He is working from "official figures" from Mecklenburg. You are working from gossip, hearsay, and a chorus of "Yeah, that's right!"s.
The burden of proof is on you to prove Michael Collins is wrong. You have not done so.
The point of this thread - is to correct grossly inaccurate information that was making its way around the internet.
Then do so properly. Prove him wrong or keep quiet until you can.
- Its not to argue with someone as to where the Latin script came from! (Distraction)
You posted the Latin (in response to an "expert witness" for Michael). Was it to keep the poster from being heard?
You (or your posse) have made various claims about the Latin. A "Fucking Joke!"; a post to show Land Shark nonsensical (at least you can't refute that. The words were yours); that the posts were long and we all needed a break; ad infinitum (sooooo sorry to use Latin again).
But, YOU posted it! Now its my fault? I don't think so.
Using inaccurate info (from Scoop article)could discredit other election integrity advocates.
And your over-the-top histrionics about the issue could also discredit us all, just as your super defense of any fault being found in NC could (particularly when you can't prove Michael is not correct. His figures are official. Yours are nothing but hearsay).
- The point is to clear up the inaccuracies.
Then DO it! As it stands, Michael's figures are correct as shown by the official records of Mecklenburg County. So debunk him if you can. Just stop the unsubstantiated blather.
All this other crap on this thread is just a big huge distraction.
I will agree that the OP you made has been a huge distraction to all at ERD. You should ask a mod to spike it, and it would do the whole ERD much good, IMHO.
Circular arguments and comments leading away from the topic are a waste of time.(Distraction)
I agree. So why won't you stop it?
The fact is, "crying wolf" with inaccurate information does no good for ER.
I agree. So why don't you stop it until you can actually see a wolf. IOW, rebut his case using the figures that Mecklenburg shows, and that he used.
But puh-leeze stop the groundless complaining about "inaccurate information" until you can provide some accurate, and substantiated (from official sources), information of your own.
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| -Time to Doff Tin Foil Hats - No Suspicious Undervote in NC 08 |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-18-07 12:09 PM |
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Excellent. Thanks for the link. |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-18-07 02:01 PM |
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Sweeping up the mess? |
BeFree |
Jan-21-07 12:06 AM |
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kandr |
fooj |
Jan-18-07 02:03 PM |
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Collins has posted this on the subject of his "Scoop" article: |
Kurovski |
Jan-18-07 05:24 PM |
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but he is _cherry-picking_ the "published figures" |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-18-07 06:37 PM |
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if you think those figures are bad, look at Lenoir County NC's |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-19-07 01:14 AM |
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whoa, I thought I was playing pinball for a moment |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-19-07 05:39 AM |
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"either intentionally... or has no idea how to figure the undervote." |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-18-07 07:02 PM |
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again, one quibble with SoDem's excellent diary |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-18-07 07:32 PM |
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I thought you were going to say... |
Bill Bored |
Jan-18-07 07:53 PM |
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that's my belief, but I can't confirm it at this time |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-18-07 07:57 PM |
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C'mon TAKE THE CHALLENGE!! |
kster |
Jan-18-07 11:35 PM |
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Jan-19-07 12:44 AM |
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Oh C'mon we all know the cause of global warming |
kster |
Jan-19-07 01:00 AM |
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frankly |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-19-07 01:17 AM |
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oops forgot something |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-19-07 12:46 AM |
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"when necessary to complete the canvass" |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-19-07 06:09 AM |
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The candidate conceded |
Kelvin Mace |
Jan-22-07 12:14 PM |
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When reporting of results is this messed up, it may obscure other problems.... |
Land Shark |
Jan-19-07 12:31 AM |
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the scandal of the decade |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-19-07 01:34 AM |
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now we just need someone to chime in with a supporting table |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-19-07 06:29 AM |
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this table is the conclusive proof |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-19-07 02:27 PM |
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What is the investigative standard to pronounce Meck OK? |
Land Shark |
Jan-19-07 10:46 AM |
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this will help |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-19-07 11:27 AM |
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feeling a bit frazzled? (grin) |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-19-07 11:55 AM |
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zzrl? |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-19-07 01:23 PM |
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that's inaccurate -- it was zzril ;) |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-19-07 01:39 PM |
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plenty of work for volunteers, and comments from BlueNC |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-19-07 01:34 PM |
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well, I have it, but don't know what to do with it |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-19-07 02:05 PM |
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the source of the latin |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-19-07 01:39 PM |
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Why won't you answer me? |
galloglas |
Jan-19-07 05:00 PM |
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Why? |
BeFree |
Jan-19-07 08:00 PM |
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"Elvis has left the building" !!?? |
galloglas |
Jan-19-07 08:49 PM |
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My hopes for NC |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-20-07 02:43 PM |
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Since you are impatient... |
galloglas |
Jan-21-07 05:34 PM |
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Ok I answered your question, and now seems no one interested |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-20-07 10:49 PM |
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Nope |
BeFree |
Jan-20-07 11:11 PM |
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tell us all about you |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-20-07 11:19 PM |
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No one is interested |
BeFree |
Jan-20-07 11:29 PM |
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does your state have voting machines?? |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-20-07 11:47 PM |
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Badly |
BeFree |
Jan-20-07 11:56 PM |
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why not answer the other questions |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-21-07 12:11 AM |
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Jan-21-07 12:22 AM |
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Thanks for the disclosure. |
Wilms |
Jan-20-07 11:47 PM |
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I don't have a sig line |
BeFree |
Jan-20-07 11:58 PM |
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I'm not sure I wouldn't interpret that as threatening and aimed at stifling debate. |
Wilms |
Jan-21-07 12:10 AM |
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Jan-21-07 12:19 AM |
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Bingo, the whole point is to disrupt |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-21-07 01:18 AM |
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Mega-Bingo. |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-21-07 01:28 AM |
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What part on the sig line, Wilms? |
galloglas |
Jan-21-07 04:17 PM |
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Sure. |
Wilms |
Jan-21-07 05:34 PM |
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Burns night is coming very soon... n/t |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-21-07 07:22 AM |
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So, providence |
Kelvin Mace |
Jan-22-07 12:21 PM |
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Uhhh, I also eat, sleep and do other things. I don't live at DU! |
galloglas |
Jan-21-07 05:27 PM |
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Google Lorem Ipsum |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-21-07 06:04 PM |
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oh, you noticed that too? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-21-07 06:11 PM |
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I'm quite sure he will be. |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-21-07 06:26 PM |
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Quite Obviously! |
galloglas |
Jan-21-07 08:48 PM |
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here's that Latin, straight from the site I copied it from |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-21-07 08:52 PM |
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No, I am not familiar with Latin at all. |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-21-07 10:16 PM |
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Perhaps not |
galloglas |
Jan-21-07 11:39 PM |
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See post #98 |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-21-07 11:57 PM |
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maybe to avoid talking about inaccuracies in Scoop article? n/t |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-22-07 12:04 AM |
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See post # 102 |
galloglas |
Jan-22-07 12:08 AM |
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"yet some still claimed an unusual undervote/conspiracy..." |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-22-07 12:14 AM |
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Wait now, |
Kelvin Mace |
Jan-22-07 12:25 PM |
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Are you claiming that |
galloglas |
Jan-21-07 08:42 PM |
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I am "claiming" |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-21-07 09:57 PM |
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The question is this. |
galloglas |
Jan-21-07 10:26 PM |
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It appears that you don't read English any better than Latin. |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-21-07 10:58 PM |
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We'll see... |
galloglas |
Jan-21-07 11:25 PM |
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Another try |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-21-07 11:06 PM |
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URL, please |
galloglas |
Jan-21-07 11:15 PM |
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You have already requested that and it was already posted to you. |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-21-07 11:32 PM |
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the point of the OP is to correct misinformation |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-21-07 11:51 PM |
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In the mean time, |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-22-07 12:05 AM |
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Right |
BeFree |
Jan-22-07 12:06 AM |
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hey, it's a trifecta! |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-22-07 12:20 AM |
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You need to prove *you* aren't crying wolf! |
galloglas |
Jan-22-07 12:32 AM |
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you're backed by good information |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-22-07 01:22 AM |
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It "becomes simply childish" |
galloglas |
Jan-22-07 12:04 AM |
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NC 08: Kissell gained 2 votes from manual recount of 5 counties |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-22-07 12:09 AM |
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Proof, Joyce, Proof! |
galloglas |
Jan-22-07 01:35 AM |
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"It is Cicero." Hahahaha!!!! It is floor-sweepings of Cicero. |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-22-07 01:14 AM |
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Perhaps you know more about floors than |
galloglas |
Jan-22-07 01:41 AM |
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I am so terribly sorry |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-22-07 03:24 PM |
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Are you completely unaware |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-21-07 11:48 PM |
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"a false claim ..dilutes the importance of other, more valid claims" |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-22-07 12:30 AM |
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"I wish we could find some irregularity or other reason..." |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-22-07 12:19 AM |
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No one is getting |
Kelvin Mace |
Jan-22-07 12:23 PM |
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wish I could see the faces on Latin Dept folks |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-21-07 07:52 PM |
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You most certainly did! |
galloglas |
Jan-21-07 09:27 PM |
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BTW, "(edited for grammer in last sentence)" |
galloglas |
Jan-21-07 09:34 PM |
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its a matter of choice |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-21-07 10:43 PM |
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A matter of choice?? |
galloglas |
Jan-22-07 01:49 AM |
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what, calling me out now? (grin) |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-21-07 11:13 PM |
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What he wants to do |
Kelvin Mace |
Jan-22-07 12:20 PM |
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OK, then.... |
galloglas |
Jan-19-07 11:53 AM |
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??? |
hunter |
Jan-19-07 01:41 PM |
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What a crock! |
BeFree |
Jan-19-07 08:34 PM |
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absolutely wrong, for reasons already explained |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-19-07 08:38 PM |
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You see |
BeFree |
Jan-20-07 11:18 PM |
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jeepers |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-21-07 07:27 AM |
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Not MY official results |
BeFree |
Jan-21-07 10:07 AM |
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no, there weren't 19,287 voters in CD 8 Meck |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-21-07 12:46 PM |
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So |
BeFree |
Jan-21-07 12:59 PM |
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if you look, you will know what we have |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-21-07 01:05 PM |
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Wow |
BeFree |
Jan-22-07 12:18 AM |
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no, it's not incredible to people who look |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-22-07 12:26 AM |
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Let us look at two neighboring districts from Meck. |
BeFree |
Jan-19-07 09:20 PM |
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go ahead, parse the numbers |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-19-07 09:25 PM |
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What we have here |
BeFree |
Jan-19-07 09:36 PM |
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An email asks me too lookie here |
BeFree |
Jan-19-07 10:30 PM |
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and again |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-20-07 06:04 AM |
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Sorry |
BeFree |
Jan-20-07 11:41 PM |
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I have, and they do -- so what is your excuse for ignoring them? n/t |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-21-07 07:28 AM |
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Me? |
BeFree |
Jan-21-07 09:58 AM |
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BeFree, what were the undervote rates in |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-21-07 12:50 PM |
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Show me where it says OFFICIAL RESULTS |
BeFree |
Jan-21-07 01:04 PM |
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indeed, attention must be paid |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-21-07 01:23 PM |
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The two sets of numbers match? |
BeFree |
Jan-22-07 12:03 AM |
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wrong again |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-22-07 12:15 AM |
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OK, if you can multipost, so can I |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jan-20-07 06:00 AM |
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Yes, they could |
BeFree |
Jan-20-07 11:45 PM |
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I'm just going to hide this thread and pretend I never read it. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-19-07 09:46 PM |
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Funny thats what I been thinking... |
btmlndfrmr |
Jan-19-07 09:53 PM |
#40 |