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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #59
60. Good points.

And the author seems to have a grasp on the issue of what is passable.

True. The term audit seems a bit misleading. But it's 550 that calls for an audit. I expect no less from v2.

The question remaining, however, is if the v2 audit will be the same as v1. If so, we're screwed.

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  -The Holt Bill is Introduced !! galloglas  Jan-13-07 09:00 PM   #0 
  - If I'm understanding this correctly ...  BattyDem   Jan-13-07 09:07 PM   #1 
  - This is a different Holt bill.  Wilms   Jan-13-07 09:08 PM   #2 
  - Could you check that out?  galloglas   Jan-13-07 09:35 PM   #6 
     - What's to check-out? It ain't the sequel, period.  Wilms   Jan-13-07 09:42 PM   #9 
        - Call Holt's Office?  galloglas   Jan-14-07 02:29 PM   #37 
           - I gave you the answer.  Wilms   Jan-14-07 02:59 PM   #41 
  - Different bill  hedda_foil   Jan-13-07 09:08 PM   #3 
  - Do you happen to know if 550 v2 will require a paper ballot?  BattyDem   Jan-13-07 09:11 PM   #4 
  - how sad HR 550 has lanquished so long because some do NOT want  jarnocan   Jan-13-07 09:16 PM   #5 
  - N/T  galloglas   Jan-13-07 09:36 PM   #7 
  - Wanna bet?  galloglas   Jan-13-07 09:39 PM   #8 
     - Don't.  Wilms   Jan-13-07 09:45 PM   #10 
        - I won't,, but...  galloglas   Jan-13-07 10:39 PM   #11 
           - It forces precinct counts.  Wilms   Jan-13-07 11:36 PM   #13 
              - But don't you think that  galloglas   Jan-14-07 02:24 PM   #36 
                 - I'd love a bill that bans DREs.  Wilms   Jan-14-07 03:09 PM   #43 
                    - Absolutely OK by me, Wilms!  galloglas   Jan-14-07 03:15 PM   #45 
  - From what I gather  BeFree   Jan-13-07 10:41 PM   #12 
  - The paper record in Sarasota FL 2006 is the DRE's internal print-out.  Wilms   Jan-13-07 11:44 PM   #14 
  - Your problem is  BeFree   Jan-14-07 12:00 AM   #15 
  - We can make this debate go away, its real simple  kster   Jan-14-07 12:08 AM   #16 
  - What debate?  Wilms   Jan-14-07 12:25 AM   #19 
     - That rolie dude is one of my favorites  kster   Jan-14-07 01:11 AM   #28 
  - Different subject.  Wilms   Jan-14-07 12:20 AM   #18 
     - You got it  BeFree   Jan-14-07 12:35 AM   #22 
     - The "toilet paper" record shows each event, not just totals.  Wilms   Jan-14-07 12:43 AM   #23 
        - Are you confused?  BeFree   Jan-14-07 12:53 AM   #25 
           - Don't forget, We the voters are not allow to see inside the vote counting machine,  kster   Jan-14-07 01:03 AM   #26 
           - I know, kster  BeFree   Jan-14-07 01:14 AM   #29 
           - But you can print out that to which I referred.  Wilms   Jan-14-07 03:02 AM   #32 
     - So what's my problem? Is this it?  galloglas   Jan-14-07 02:53 PM   #39 
        - What specific law violation are you citing. Give details.  Wilms   Jan-14-07 03:14 PM   #44 
           - Perhaps I misinterpreted?  galloglas   Jan-14-07 03:25 PM   #49 
              - Who/what is a PTB?  Wilms   Jan-14-07 03:30 PM   #50 
                 - PTBs are  galloglas   Jan-14-07 03:39 PM   #52 
                    - Are you sure they ain't reading?  Wilms   Jan-14-07 03:41 PM   #54 
                       - Hell, No!  galloglas   Jan-14-07 03:54 PM   #56 
  - That was the problem I found  galloglas   Jan-14-07 02:44 PM   #38 
     - I'm not sure I agree with BF's interpretation of the law.  Wilms   Jan-14-07 03:25 PM   #48 
        - OK, I can buy that, but  galloglas   Jan-14-07 03:34 PM   #51 
           - I'll say this about prosecution.  Wilms   Jan-14-07 03:40 PM   #53 
  - FL law forbids manual counting of paper anyhow n/t  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-14-07 12:40 PM   #35 
  - And is that good?  galloglas   Jan-14-07 02:59 PM   #40 
     - 550 v1, and, I'm sure, v2, mandate VVPAT. n/t  Wilms   Jan-14-07 03:15 PM   #46 
  - A follow up  BeFree   Jan-14-07 09:40 PM   #61 
  - All in all  BeFree   Jan-14-07 12:20 AM   #17 
  - Well, when you ask the CROOKS, who  kster   Jan-14-07 12:31 AM   #21 
  - This bill is the bill to detect the Famous Bev Harris/Howard Dean hack!  Bill Bored   Jan-14-07 12:29 AM   #20 
  - Oh, no! More facts!  Wilms   Jan-14-07 12:48 AM   #24 
     - One more....  Bill Bored   Jan-14-07 01:04 AM   #27 
        - But you know what  kster   Jan-14-07 01:15 AM   #30 
        - The question is...  BeFree   Jan-14-07 01:17 AM   #31 
           - How many states have laws any better than HR 550? nt  Bill Bored   Jan-14-07 03:17 AM   #33 
           - Yes, Indeed!  galloglas   Jan-14-07 03:08 PM   #42 
              - Are you saying that Holt is talking behind his hand because he doesn't post here?  Wilms   Jan-14-07 03:17 PM   #47 
              - Neither, actually,  galloglas   Jan-14-07 03:50 PM   #55 
                 - Hearings on the bill, I believe, would be public.  Wilms   Jan-14-07 05:15 PM   #57 
                    - FWIW, this is a recent email from one of the major players.  galloglas   Jan-14-07 08:49 PM   #59 
                       - Good points.  Wilms   Jan-14-07 09:09 PM   #60 
                       - Audits?  BeFree   Jan-14-07 09:57 PM   #62 
                          - Have you run your theorem past an attorney? n/t  Wilms   Jan-14-07 10:01 PM   #63 
                             - I just did.  BeFree   Jan-14-07 10:08 PM   #65 
                                - Take back your projections and discussion will ensue. n/t  Wilms   Jan-14-07 10:21 PM   #66 
                       - HR 6414 "Vote Tabulation Audit Act of 2006"  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-14-07 11:28 PM   #67 
                          - Perhaps you could explain then,  galloglas   Jan-14-07 11:43 PM   #68 
                             - See post 20. It's all explained there, isn't it?  Bill Bored   Jan-15-07 12:00 AM   #69 
                             - this is why  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-15-07 12:31 AM   #71 
                                - Arguments become circular  galloglas   Jan-15-07 03:08 PM   #73 
                             - Well, as I said up thread, when you try and get CROOKS  kster   Jan-15-07 12:25 AM   #70 
              - Here's one thing Dill has been doing.  Bill Bored   Jan-15-07 02:38 AM   #72 
  - How come no Rec's for this post? Regardless of the bill's nature, the issue is critical!!  Stevepol   Jan-14-07 07:37 AM   #34 
  - What in the world is secret vote counting?  proud2Blib   Jan-14-07 07:23 PM   #58 
     - Secret vote counting  BeFree   Jan-14-07 10:05 PM   #64 
     - Shhhhhhhhhh! nt  Bill Bored   Jan-16-07 01:26 AM   #74 
 

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