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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 02:17 PM
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84. Scotland quit hand counting ballots this May
When jurisdictions make voting more complicated, they encourage computerized tabulation.

Scotland switched to optical scan voting this year :(

This followed the decision to use a form of ranked choice voting this year, and also combine two contests on their ballot. They decided that due to the new complexity of the ballot and ballot counting (Single Transferable Vote requires an algorithm) that they needed computerized vote counting. It was a disaster.


'Serious technical failures' at polls

Published: May 5 2007 03:00

Officials yesterday acknowledged "serious technical failures" in the counting of votes for the Scottish elections as they announced a formal inquiry amid fears that as many as
100,000 ballot papers had been unwittingly spoilt by bemused voters.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/15f844a0-faa8-11db-8bd0-000b5df...


The biggest poll debacle in the history of British democracy sees up to one in ten votes thrown out

"SCOTLAND'S status as a modern democracy was dealt a grievous blow yesterday by a scandal in which up to one in ten votes in the Holyrood election were thrown in the bin uncounted.

In a development that could bring into question the legitimacy of the Scottish Parliament poll, as many as 100,000 ballot papers were spoiled. That averages out as one in 20 votes but in some seats a tenth of the papers were spoiled...."
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=698352007


Scotland rejected ballots now total 187,578 - BBC says worse than Fl
Wednesday, 16 May 2007,

Figures show that about 45,700 local government votes were rejected compared to 140,000 in the Holyrood poll.

The figures boost critics' claims that the parliament ballot paper confused voters.

They say having both the constituency and list MSP votes on the same sheet led to the rise in spoilt ballots.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/6663929.stm


I don't think anyone here opposes hand counting the ballots.

In places like Wisconsin, or in small townships in New Hampshire, they are still hand counting the ballots. NH had only 12 contests on the ballot on Nov 2004.
Good luck convincing politicians and supporters nationwide to reduce ballot size.

Voting machines were implemented to address complexity, but also because it was thought they would decrease fraud associated with HCPB.

If you want HCPB, try working for it at a local level and see how it goes, and if successful maybe neighboring jurisdictions will be convinced.
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