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Sun Nov-05-06 07:21 PM
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| 18. But you can change that |
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You can get involved in the primaries and elect a better candidate of the same party. We don't have that. We essentially just vote for parties, most of the time it doesn't matter the name of the candidate because he/she will vote in lockstep with the leadership's positions on the issues.
Yanno, when I see roll call votes in the House, and a group usually featuring Kucinich and the Black/Progressive Caucus, standing up against some fascist or pro-corporate piece of legislation. It makes me envious that you have people in the Democratic Party who will not march in lockstep with enabling Bushler.
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| -What Hand Counting Paper Ballots Looks Like … in Scotland. |
nicknameless |
Nov-05-06 05:22 PM |
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And By Comparison - Hacking Democracy By HBO |
lostnotforgotten |
Nov-05-06 05:26 PM |
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Kick for Democracy in |
zidzi |
Nov-05-06 05:29 PM |
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kick.nt |
kster |
Jan-23-07 06:02 PM |
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Glad you brought this up again. Cuz maybe |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-23-07 06:22 PM |
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Pay the people, heres what it cost us when we stopped |
kster |
Jan-23-07 06:42 PM |
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Thank you. |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-23-07 07:39 PM |
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It would be best to start with honesty, meaning ALL |
kster |
Jan-23-07 08:20 PM |
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While working together toward the same goal of verifiable elections |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-23-07 10:09 PM |
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Telling the people the truth, is not trying to convince them |
kster |
Jan-23-07 11:00 PM |
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"Here is our Hand Counted Paper Ballot Implementation Strategy 2007" |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-23-07 11:23 PM |
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Implemetation |
kster |
Jan-24-07 12:06 AM |
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Interesting. |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-24-07 01:33 AM |
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When you said |
kster |
Jan-24-07 02:25 AM |
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Well, OK. I tried again. |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-24-07 02:43 AM |
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Don't be sorry, thats just silly |
kster |
Jan-24-07 03:00 AM |
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SCOTLAND GAVE UP HAND COUNTED BALLOTS IN 2007 |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Oct-29-08 11:40 PM |
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IF I SAY IT THIS WAY WILL IT MAKE YOU HAPPY... |
kster |
Oct-30-08 02:16 AM |
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I should have thought of that! |
troubleinwinter |
Jan-23-07 11:32 PM |
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troubleinwinter, can you provide a better link |
sonias |
Mar-09-07 09:22 PM |
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Ummm, it's like that in the whole of the UK |
Greeby |
Nov-05-06 05:34 PM |
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I'm jealous. |
nicknameless |
Nov-05-06 05:46 PM |
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Parliament in this country, particularly among the two main parties |
Greeby |
Nov-05-06 06:02 PM |
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What a disgrace. I'm very sorry to hear that. |
nicknameless |
Nov-05-06 06:13 PM |
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But you can change that |
Greeby |
Nov-05-06 07:21 PM |
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We can *try* to change it. |
nicknameless |
Nov-05-06 08:09 PM |
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Here in the UK in 2007 British votes were counted by ES&S... |
Votergater |
Feb-12-08 12:34 PM |
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As I heard onthe radio this AM...If the country WANTED to solve the voting |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-05-06 05:35 PM |
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Exactly. |
nicknameless |
Nov-05-06 05:42 PM |
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In Canada.. we take the boxes and count them right out in the open... |
applegrove |
Nov-05-06 05:57 PM |
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Counting ballots is a civic responsibility. Like jury duty. |
aquart |
Nov-05-06 06:04 PM |
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Voting too is a civic duty. |
applegrove |
Nov-05-06 07:19 PM |
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So the count would take longer. |
nicknameless |
Nov-05-06 06:05 PM |
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Actually, we would not need additional elections to decide ... |
BruceMcF |
Nov-05-06 06:33 PM |
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No machines should be allowed -- for voting or counting. |
nicknameless |
Nov-05-06 06:39 PM |
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Kick. (nt) |
Kurovski |
Feb-11-08 12:41 PM |
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But, when do you vote for your ... |
BruceMcF |
Nov-05-06 06:28 PM |
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Judges are appointed by government. Local officials run their own |
applegrove |
Nov-06-06 01:10 PM |
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So how do you run and count your provincial and local elections?? |
demodonkey |
Dec-07-06 10:53 AM |
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Actually about 50 times more complicated |
sonias |
Mar-09-07 09:55 PM |
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I love Scotland |
garthranzz |
Nov-05-06 07:07 PM |
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Don't forget Mr. Boycott himself! He was a Scot too I believe. HCPB NOW! |
In Truth We Trust |
Nov-06-06 07:24 AM |
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Hand count the ballots? |
RC |
Nov-05-06 07:13 PM |
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Heres how |
kster |
Nov-05-06 09:26 PM |
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Precisely. Apparently some people feel speed is more important than a transparent count! |
kiteinthewind |
Jun-11-07 09:16 PM |
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How sad for America and Americans nm |
texpatriot2004 |
Nov-05-06 07:55 PM |
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Its great to see those pics online again |
kster |
Nov-05-06 08:54 PM |
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Thank you for finding the original UK pics. |
nicknameless |
Nov-05-06 08:58 PM |
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kick |
FernBell |
Nov-06-06 04:42 AM |
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K&R Hand Counted Paper Ballots NOW! DEMOCRACY NOW!!! OR Fascism FOREVER. |
In Truth We Trust |
Nov-06-06 07:18 AM |
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Canada's regional elections do the same type of manual counting |
AikidoSoul |
Nov-06-06 09:32 AM |
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It could take months if you are talking a California or Illinois Ballot |
onthebench |
Nov-09-06 12:25 PM |
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K&R! |
Kurovski |
Nov-06-06 10:15 AM |
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Kick this baby! Somebody really does understand what we gotta do! |
AikidoSoul |
Nov-06-06 12:00 PM |
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kick..nt |
kster |
Nov-08-06 10:40 AM |
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Kick! What real democracy looks like. |
nicknameless |
Nov-09-06 02:31 AM |
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Yes! Convert them into defibrillators! |
diva77 |
Nov-09-06 02:41 AM |
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True that. |
nicknameless |
Nov-09-06 03:48 AM |
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kick-n-it...............nt |
kster |
Dec-04-06 01:10 PM |
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Kicked but too late to recommend, n/t |
Land Shark |
Dec-06-06 12:59 PM |
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Yeah, I like those pictures too |
Febble |
Dec-06-06 03:11 PM |
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there is only one contest on the ballot |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Dec-06-06 07:58 PM |
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November 2006 sample ballots |
troubleinwinter |
Dec-07-06 02:14 PM |
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"Dingwall Count", Scotland |
troubleinwinter |
Dec-07-06 03:18 PM |
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In counting the apparent 'vote counters' in the OP photo |
troubleinwinter |
Dec-07-06 04:31 PM |
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Our constituencies |
Febble |
Dec-07-06 05:00 PM |
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OK. |
troubleinwinter |
Dec-07-06 05:32 PM |
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BBC article here might be useful: |
Febble |
Dec-08-06 01:45 AM |
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Forgot to say that Scotland is moving towards optical scanning |
Febble |
Dec-08-06 02:02 AM |
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How did they catch the attempted fraud? |
kster |
Dec-09-06 12:18 AM |
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Red-handed: |
Febble |
Dec-09-06 03:13 AM |
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BTW, HCPB were used in Ukraine in 2004: |
Febble |
Dec-09-06 03:45 AM |
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Would think that massive fraud with paper/HCPB would be |
Cookie wookie |
Jun-30-07 11:38 AM |
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Yes, sorry folks, Scotland's going electronic in 2007... |
Votergater |
Dec-29-06 12:45 PM |
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Counting on a machine? Confidence starts slipping |
kster |
Dec-29-06 01:19 PM |
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HAND COUNTED paper ballots YES! Sourcecode anywhere-NO! |
In Truth We Trust |
Dec-09-06 06:07 PM |
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Kick.nt |
kster |
Dec-28-06 02:53 PM |
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One more K...........nt |
kster |
Dec-29-06 12:55 AM |
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kick.nt |
kster |
Feb-13-07 10:40 AM |
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kick.nt |
kster |
Mar-09-07 09:37 AM |
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Och !! Ain' it looks |
galloglas |
Mar-10-07 01:10 AM |
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Beautiful sight, indeed! nt |
kiteinthewind |
Mar-10-07 02:14 PM |
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KR.nt |
kster |
Jun-11-07 08:52 PM |
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I'm so glad you kicked this so that you have another chance at ANSWERING THIS QUESTION: |
troubleinwinter |
Jun-11-07 10:44 PM |
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Can you ask me this question in another thread please.nt |
kster |
Jun-11-07 10:48 PM |
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I don't see why. |
troubleinwinter |
Jun-11-07 11:24 PM |
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OK, Here ya go, its simple easy and could Be done immediately |
kster |
Jun-11-07 11:54 PM |
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Kucinich's HR6200 died with the last congress. |
troubleinwinter |
Jun-12-07 09:23 AM |
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Scotland quit hand counting ballots this May |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jun-12-07 02:17 PM |
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KRnt |
kster |
Jun-12-07 03:58 AM |
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Kick For Kucinich..........nt |
kster |
Jun-28-07 08:56 PM |
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KICK |
kster |
Jul-11-07 03:44 AM |
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Where IS nicknameless? |
Kurovski |
Jul-11-07 03:46 AM |
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I'm sure Nicknameless will show up eventually.nt |
kster |
Aug-01-07 12:17 AM |
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RIP Nicknameless |
kster |
Aug-09-07 10:29 PM |
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Kick for my friend Nancy. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-09-07 11:06 PM |
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Our Friend was a CLASS ACT, May she (Nicknameless) Rest In Peace |
kster |
Aug-10-07 01:24 AM |
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goodbye nicknameless |
althecat |
Aug-10-07 06:29 AM |
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RIP |
btmlndfrmr |
Aug-10-07 11:50 AM |
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I can imagine how loved Nancy is by those who knew her outside of DU. |
Kurovski |
Aug-10-07 04:37 PM |
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KICK.NT |
kster |
Dec-18-07 12:16 AM |
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Scotland rejected ballots now total 187,578...worse than Florida |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Dec-20-07 01:28 AM |
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Kick.nt |
kster |
Jan-26-08 11:40 PM |
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Scottland uses Optical scan |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-27-08 05:46 PM |
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KICK ....NT |
kster |
Jul-17-08 11:15 PM |
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kick.nt |
kster |
Oct-29-08 09:41 PM |
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kick.nt |
kster |
Dec-16-08 11:00 PM |
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SCOTLAND QUIT HAND COUNTING MAY 2007 |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Dec-18-08 04:44 PM |
#107 |
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