Land Shark
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Mon Aug-21-06 08:44 AM
Response to Reply #57 |
| 59. People vote for * or Kerry for hundreds of different reasons |
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once the choice is framed, the voting proceeds according to many different motivations and considerations, but each vote still counts the same and points only in one direction.
The question of opinion research, about which OTOH claims some expertise, is different than the question of controlling or influencing the political behavior of pulling a lever or casting a ballot for a given candidate. OTOH why don't you start a thread on this as I'm sure you've got a lot to teach. "Smartest thing yet": was there another comment made by someone you agreed with as well, though not as strongly?
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| -LandShark's ZogbyPoll - It's Unanimous! Great News 4 Election Detection! |
Land Shark |
Aug-20-06 01:59 AM |
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Thanks, Landshark |
rumpel |
Aug-20-06 02:11 AM |
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#5 here - glad to see this is already public |
GuvWurld |
Aug-20-06 02:21 AM |
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well sorta public, wait till you see the real data and the hard news |
Land Shark |
Aug-20-06 03:02 AM |
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I PM'd you - please check ASAP. |
GuvWurld |
Aug-20-06 03:41 AM |
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Well, this looks familiar. |
autorank |
Aug-20-06 03:22 AM |
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K & R... |
Surya Gayatri |
Aug-20-06 03:52 AM |
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k und, if i still can, r. nt |
snot |
Aug-20-06 04:58 AM |
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K&R Paul |
Stockholm |
Aug-20-06 05:39 AM |
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Kicked and recommended... |
greatauntoftriplets |
Aug-20-06 06:46 AM |
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Excellent work , Landshark and others! K&R! n/t |
Melissa G |
Aug-20-06 08:04 AM |
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I want to see this on the front page of the NYT |
kpete |
Aug-20-06 08:14 AM |
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Who are the 6% who are heiling der Furor. |
Mr_Spock |
Aug-20-06 09:36 AM |
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The 6% may just be the "confused answerer" percentage |
Land Shark |
Aug-20-06 10:13 AM |
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Umm, consider it lucky it's only 6% |
ladym55 |
Aug-20-06 09:52 PM |
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I suppose... |
Mr_Spock |
Aug-20-06 09:55 PM |
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I know it's hard to believe that |
ladym55 |
Aug-20-06 10:44 PM |
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More than that... they are actually breeding! Repuglicans, no doubt! |
FighttheFuture |
Aug-22-06 01:27 PM |
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Ha! Americans say no to faith-based vote counts. |
glitch |
Aug-20-06 09:55 AM |
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Time is of the essence. We're already voting again, on the national level. |
Gregorian |
Aug-20-06 10:07 AM |
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the democratic party must be challenged with this info |
tomp |
Aug-20-06 10:15 AM |
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Yeah, but I'm afraid you won't hear a word about this from elected |
Pawel K |
Aug-20-06 10:21 AM |
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Who loses? |
bvar22 |
Aug-20-06 12:12 PM |
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K&R to help with THE most important issue before November! |
calipendence |
Aug-20-06 10:35 AM |
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HOLY CRAP!!! LandShark -- count me in for a DONATION!!! |
loudsue |
Aug-20-06 11:07 AM |
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Me too. |
midnight |
Aug-20-06 11:15 PM |
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Yes but how many are willing to fight the good fight? |
lonestarnot |
Aug-20-06 11:11 AM |
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It seems the Dems have their "can-do" people, too, at least here |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Aug-20-06 11:25 AM |
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You have a Spanish "bandido" lilt to make Joaquin Murieta envioius;) |
autorank |
Sep-12-06 03:43 AM |
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Muchas gracias, tu mismo, Tuco!!!! My wife loves the guttural |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Sep-14-06 03:21 PM |
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I've blogged this story; please support thread in GD |
GuvWurld |
Aug-20-06 11:49 AM |
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Sometimes, the hardest to reach are the most technical. . . |
pat_k |
Aug-20-06 12:31 PM |
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the overall theme of democracy is THE PEOPLE SHALL JUDGE |
Land Shark |
Aug-20-06 09:59 PM |
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This sounds very powerful. |
bleever |
Aug-20-06 12:53 PM |
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What was the MOE? |
Wilms |
Aug-20-06 01:00 PM |
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Open source is great for sw dev, but can't instill public confidence |
pat_k |
Aug-20-06 01:32 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-20-06 02:12 PM |
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MOE is + or - 3.1% |
Land Shark |
Aug-20-06 03:03 PM |
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yes, we must jump on this and our Party must jump on this! |
NVMojo |
Aug-20-06 02:37 PM |
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Wow! So 8% are diggin' the Stalinist Russia thing? |
Kurovski |
Aug-20-06 04:00 PM |
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Nah, maybe 1% at most, the other 7% consist of |
Land Shark |
Aug-20-06 04:14 PM |
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Sneaky phrasing. |
aquart |
Aug-20-06 05:35 PM |
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Gee, I thought I was saying "here's a frame that's broadly accepted" |
Land Shark |
Aug-20-06 05:45 PM |
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K&R!! Extremely important. |
Stevepol |
Aug-20-06 07:41 PM |
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Soon you'll hear Rove saying "Secret Votes are vital to National Security" |
file83 |
Aug-20-06 08:25 PM |
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Too bad for them! |
Mythsaje |
Aug-22-06 01:57 AM |
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OHIO: SAVE THE BALLOTS! |
BillORightsMan |
Aug-20-06 09:56 PM |
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thanks, but I'd love it if you'd get ready to badger your local |
Land Shark |
Aug-20-06 10:08 PM |
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I'm on it, Land Shark... |
BillORightsMan |
Aug-20-06 11:19 PM |
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I am 100% with you, when you say |
kster |
Aug-21-06 12:03 AM |
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Kick.(nt) |
Kurovski |
Aug-21-06 12:35 AM |
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Thank you, Land Shark!! |
jen4clark |
Aug-21-06 02:11 AM |
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Cool, thanks! |
Land Shark |
Aug-21-06 07:00 AM |
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I don't like the phrasing at all |
lwfern |
Aug-21-06 02:30 AM |
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That's a logical assessment of the inaccuracy. |
Wilms |
Aug-21-06 02:53 AM |
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I would have voted for B |
lwfern |
Aug-21-06 02:56 AM |
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I don't believe you would be confused by a flashing red light, so |
Land Shark |
Aug-21-06 07:08 AM |
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I have a different theory |
lwfern |
Aug-21-06 07:56 AM |
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I think you've said the smartest thing yet on this thread |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-21-06 08:22 AM |
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People vote for * or Kerry for hundreds of different reasons |
Land Shark |
Aug-21-06 08:44 AM |
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generally I agree with all the people who have said |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-21-06 09:12 AM |
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are you suggsting that there's no difference between 60% support and 92% |
Land Shark |
Aug-21-06 09:25 AM |
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uh, no, I'm not |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-21-06 11:16 AM |
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One should not, once again, analyze something and find more than one |
Land Shark |
Aug-21-06 08:33 AM |
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The court comment makes no sense to me. |
lwfern |
Aug-21-06 11:49 AM |
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misunderstanding! (on my end) |
lwfern |
Aug-21-06 12:19 PM |
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OK, I'll mention it to the zogby organization n/t |
Land Shark |
Aug-21-06 12:22 PM |
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The wording seems confusing and ridiculous to me |
Awsi Dooger |
Aug-26-06 06:18 AM |
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well, isn't that still part of the problem? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Aug-21-06 12:27 PM |
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This is great information, where can we sign up to view and obtain ... |
whistle |
Aug-21-06 08:02 AM |
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what state and county are you interested in? |
Land Shark |
Aug-21-06 08:16 AM |
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I am in Florida and Orange, Osceola and Seminole counties |
whistle |
Aug-21-06 08:22 AM |
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this interactive map is good, not sure if it's up to date all the way |
Land Shark |
Aug-21-06 10:56 AM |
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I love Zogby! He will never let Selection 2004 rest! |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-21-06 09:24 AM |
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playing the Opinion Poll Game & what states have public viewing of count |
flyingobject |
Aug-21-06 10:02 AM |
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Well, of course you get another poll |
Kurovski |
Aug-21-06 12:27 PM |
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Kick.(nt) |
Kurovski |
Aug-21-06 01:55 PM |
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I got my first email referencing the survey. Woot! Woot! 8/21/06 |
livvy |
Aug-21-06 02:00 PM |
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kick.nt |
kster |
Aug-21-06 05:33 PM |
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Well for what it's worth here's what I think. |
Bill Bored |
Aug-22-06 01:26 AM |
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I am an American, and I want to see the votes --BEING--counted |
kster |
Aug-22-06 01:50 AM |
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Then you will want hand counted paper ballots. |
Bill Bored |
Aug-22-06 10:06 PM |
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Then Florida BEWARE because we aim to see our vote's being counted |
kster |
Aug-22-06 11:59 PM |
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Really? |
Bill Bored |
Aug-23-06 11:39 PM |
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True, but if Florida won't let the other states |
kster |
Aug-24-06 12:31 AM |
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We didn't. The Supreme Court wouldn't let them count the votes. |
Bill Bored |
Aug-24-06 03:13 AM |
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Kick. |
Kurovski |
Aug-25-06 02:26 PM |
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well done, and www.Electionline.org picked it up in their newsletter. |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Aug-25-06 02:48 PM |
#84 |
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