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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:43 PM
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57. ???
Have you hugged a statistician today? ;)
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  - Direct Material Proof of Massive Election Fraud in Ohio in 2004 RonB  Jul-23-06 08:51 PM   #0 
  - Rank and KICK!!!  NVMojo   Jul-23-06 08:55 PM   #1 
  - What? How do you figure? nt  iconoclastic cat   Jul-23-06 08:58 PM   #4 
  - Ron Baiman is a national treasure, but that's just my opinion and I  autorank   Jul-27-06 02:44 AM   #101 
  - The link to the powerpoint is dead. nt  iconoclastic cat   Jul-23-06 08:57 PM   #2 
  - Thank you. This might be locked, then moved to GD or  alfredo   Jul-23-06 08:57 PM   #3 
  - k&r for clean elections, without them we are screwed.  uppityperson   Jul-23-06 08:58 PM   #5 
  - Ron, having trouble with the Powerpoint link:"bcvrtf.yahoo.com not found"  Kip Humphrey   Jul-23-06 08:59 PM   #6 
  - And yet everyone here is kicking and recommending.  iconoclastic cat   Jul-23-06 09:02 PM   #7 
     - Same here.  drm604   Jul-23-06 09:55 PM   #16 
     - I had no problem downloading it K&R n/t  Land Shark   Jul-25-06 01:30 AM   #60 
  - Ron, I trust that you are in touch with  bleever   Jul-23-06 09:05 PM   #8 
  - I can't get to the Powerpoint... (n/t)  IndyOp   Jul-23-06 09:06 PM   #9 
  - Ron comments on his blog post to download the link  bear425   Jul-23-06 09:08 PM   #11 
     - PowerPoint viewer is a free MS download. LINK only n/t  L. Coyote   Jul-23-06 09:25 PM   #13 
        - Hey, thank you very much. That was nice of you. n/t  bear425   Jul-24-06 08:58 AM   #24 
  - Caution: New Powerpoint Virus  Nictuku   Jul-23-06 09:08 PM   #10 
  - if it's stored on yahoo there may be traffic problems  Donnachaidh   Jul-23-06 09:08 PM   #12 
  - K&R  Patsy Stone   Jul-23-06 09:44 PM   #14 
  - Ron, your link appears to be bad.  drm604   Jul-23-06 09:52 PM   #15 
  - I changed the link.  RonB   Jul-23-06 10:41 PM   #17 
     - Glad to see you back, Ron! Thanks for posting! K&R! n/t  Melissa G   Jul-23-06 10:50 PM   #18 
     - Works for me!  go west young man   Jul-24-06 07:49 AM   #22 
     - Why don't you  Febble   Jul-24-06 04:45 PM   #43 
  - Ohio Supreme Court Vote Anomaly  L. Coyote   Jul-23-06 11:38 PM   #19 
  - Ron, thank you for this great analysis  rumpel   Jul-24-06 12:14 AM   #20 
  - Nails Warren Mitofsky as the bumbling, self righteous a$$hole he really is.  farmbo   Jul-24-06 07:46 AM   #21 
  - And your problem is?  Febble   Jul-24-06 08:16 AM   #23 
     - You've got to be kidding, right?  organik   Jul-24-06 11:58 AM   #25 
     - It's certainly not silly  Febble   Jul-24-06 12:26 PM   #26 
     - Your loyalty to you erstwhile patron does you great credit, Prebs.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jul-24-06 01:16 PM   #27 
     - Oh jeez  Febble   Jul-24-06 01:18 PM   #28 
        - It's silly that anonymous polling data can't be released owing to...  farmbo   Jul-24-06 01:56 PM   #29 
           - The names are not on the responses  Febble   Jul-24-06 02:37 PM   #34 
           - Given how everyone here feels about Choicepoint (rightfully so!)  salvorhardin   Jul-24-06 05:36 PM   #44 
     - RE: wouldn't show up in the exit poll anyway ...  L. Coyote   Jul-24-06 02:05 PM   #30 
     - Well, you can certainly add it.  Febble   Jul-24-06 02:22 PM   #32 
        - RE: The qualifier "for which there is best evidence in Ohio"  L. Coyote   Jul-24-06 02:59 PM   #37 
           - Nope  Febble   Jul-24-06 04:08 PM   #41 
           - Thanks, this helps  L. Coyote   Jul-24-06 06:06 PM   #48 
           - I should also add:  Febble   Jul-24-06 04:18 PM   #42 
     - a 17% shift in their margin  L. Coyote   Jul-24-06 02:26 PM   #33 
        - Yes indeed  Febble   Jul-24-06 02:44 PM   #35 
           - RE: "Ron's "virtually irrefutable evidence" from the exit polls is nothing  L. Coyote   Jul-24-06 03:06 PM   #38 
              - Well, he's done it in writing  Febble   Jul-24-06 03:57 PM   #40 
     - In regard to exit polls, I've noticed plenty of silly, the other way  Awsi Dooger   Jul-24-06 02:55 PM   #36 
        - Hi Awsi, you seem to merit a TIA refuting...  Melissa G   Jul-24-06 10:06 PM   #55 
        - I seriously doubt TIA looked at the "When Decided" category prior to 2004  Awsi Dooger   Jul-25-06 11:02 PM   #76 
           - I was going to give you a long answer until I read your down  Melissa G   Jul-26-06 09:07 PM   #98 
           - You have been refuted.. again...Check your in box.n/t  Melissa G   Jul-26-06 09:56 PM   #99 
              - Thank you for the link in your PM  Awsi Dooger   Jul-27-06 01:39 AM   #100 
              - Hi Awsi ,TIA likes your math, if not your conclusions...  Melissa G   Jul-27-06 07:36 PM   #107 
                 - Admittedly, that "When Decided" has been less varied in '00 and '04  Awsi Dooger   Jul-27-06 10:41 PM   #109 
              - Has that ever made a difference...  autorank   Jul-27-06 02:45 AM   #102 
                 - nope, serious discussion here is very, very difficult n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-27-06 07:09 AM   #103 
        - Yeah, right  BeFree   Jul-24-06 11:10 PM   #58 
           - I thought you were ignoring me  Awsi Dooger   Jul-25-06 11:16 PM   #77 
           - Made up? No. Mistake? yep  BeFree   Jul-26-06 06:41 AM   #82 
              - presumably you meant this to reply to me  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-26-06 06:53 AM   #83 
                 - There goes that integrity thing, again  BeFree   Jul-26-06 07:18 AM   #84 
                    - nope, it's a fact thing  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-26-06 07:40 AM   #85 
                       - It is your credibility in question  BeFree   Jul-26-06 08:06 AM   #86 
                          - again, if you don't have an argument, then you don't have an argument  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-26-06 08:31 AM   #87 
                             - Your intellectual integrity is the subject  BeFree   Jul-26-06 08:36 AM   #88 
                                - that's just dumb  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-26-06 08:41 AM   #89 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-26-06 08:45 AM   #90 
                                      - huh? n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-26-06 08:47 AM   #91 
           - and then there is the part you just made up  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-26-06 05:42 AM   #81 
     - Election records are PUBLIC records  RonB   Jul-25-06 12:56 AM   #59 
        - They have everything to worry about  Febble   Jul-25-06 01:42 AM   #61 
           - I removed that slide from the power point  RonB   Jul-25-06 11:22 PM   #78 
              - Thanks Ron, that's decent  Febble   Jul-26-06 02:27 AM   #79 
  - Kick  BeFree   Jul-24-06 02:19 PM   #31 
  - BIG KICK  redacted   Jul-24-06 03:11 PM   #39 
  - In OH the precinct on the punchcard is identified with a printed or...  rosebud57   Jul-24-06 05:49 PM   #45 
  - Suspicous minds want to know  L. Coyote   Jul-24-06 05:59 PM   #46 
     - Excellent idea  Febble   Jul-24-06 06:03 PM   #47 
     - But do they have hot tubs?  L. Coyote   Jul-24-06 06:51 PM   #49 
     - Febble...your take on the Miami county poll book discrepancy?  farmbo   Jul-24-06 07:08 PM   #50 
     - Well, I am waiting to see  Febble   Jul-24-06 08:12 PM   #51 
     - These stats. don't reflect drop off rates from top to bottom of the ticket  farmbo   Jul-24-06 09:09 PM   #53 
        - Well, if it's "stark"  Febble   Jul-25-06 02:07 AM   #62 
        - Sorry...I have a day job and I'm not a statistician. Part of the indignity  farmbo   Jul-25-06 04:09 AM   #65 
           - Sorry about the stats-speak  Febble   Jul-25-06 04:32 AM   #66 
        - Exactly SW OH should have been least likely to vote Connally, it's  rosebud57   Jul-25-06 07:13 AM   #70 
           - Well, stats are no substitute  Febble   Jul-25-06 05:27 PM   #73 
           - RE: "Kerry votes were tabulated as Bush votes"  L. Coyote   Jul-26-06 11:21 AM   #92 
              - a master file of ballot orders would help  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-26-06 12:35 PM   #93 
                 - deterministic pattern based on precinct name  L. Coyote   Jul-26-06 06:18 PM   #94 
                    - two concerns  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-26-06 06:37 PM   #95 
                       - the statute specifies precinct number  L. Coyote   Jul-26-06 07:36 PM   #96 
                       - yes, I know the statute  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-27-06 07:58 AM   #104 
                          - caterpillar crawl could account for the "anomalous voting patterns  L. Coyote   Jul-27-06 11:17 AM   #105 
                             - who are you lecturing, and why?  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-27-06 05:13 PM   #106 
                       - RE: "Finally I gave up because I didn't have time to check all the PDFs."  L. Coyote   Jul-26-06 07:50 PM   #97 
     - To dismiss Connaly you have to believe SW OH voters are more likely to  rosebud57   Jul-24-06 09:33 PM   #54 
     - Well, no.  Febble   Jul-25-06 02:14 AM   #63 
        - If you were a cop you would say "I smell a rat in SW OH", Connaly +  rosebud57   Jul-25-06 03:43 PM   #71 
           - I smell rats too  Febble   Jul-26-06 02:58 AM   #80 
     - the poll book thing needs more analysis  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-25-06 09:07 PM   #74 
     - Glad to see you guys talking.  Bill Bored   Jul-24-06 10:10 PM   #56 
        - Well, it's not a question  Febble   Jul-25-06 02:56 AM   #64 
        - Unless...  eomer   Jul-25-06 05:52 AM   #67 
           - Yes, and the sun is shining in a British summer  Febble   Jul-25-06 06:09 AM   #68 
              - Regarding the lack of correlation at the state level,  eomer   Jul-25-06 06:39 AM   #69 
                 - Well I compromised  Febble   Jul-25-06 05:25 PM   #72 
        - Did lightening just strike twice in the same place?BB on exit polls?  Melissa G   Jul-25-06 10:36 PM   #75 
     - When I initially stared researching punch cards in Dec. '04 I assumed that  rosebud57   Jul-24-06 08:54 PM   #52 
  - ???  AtLiberty   Jul-24-06 10:43 PM   #57 
  - Does anyone know exactly when that ballot rotation started?  Awsi Dooger   Jul-27-06 10:08 PM   #108 
 

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