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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. that's not snarkiness, that's reality
By the way, this is a thread on the exit poll controversy. At least, that's what it says in the OP. But you apparently don't know or care about the exit polls. So I am pissed, of course. And no, you will not waste my time by changing the subject.

Even though, predictably, you didn't answer any of my questions, I will answer one of yours. We don't know that there wasn't fraud in the 1992 election. However, no one who claims to believe that exit polls are accurate has done any work to show that there actually was, or might have been, not only fraud in the 1992 election, but fraud that would explain the exit poll discrepancy.

Even weirder, there hasn't been much attempt to prove that fraud in the 2004 election could explain the exit poll discrepancy. Which brings us back to New York.

You said something smart in #65: if you identify the counties that switched to DREs between 2000 and 2004, you can compare the election returns to see if they are anomalous. I will help, if you want.
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  -The Exit Poll Controversy Continues BeFree  Jul-14-06 09:24 AM   #0 
  - Right on!  rock   Jul-14-06 09:28 AM   #1 
  - it would not surprise me if Diebold announced they were getting  unpossibles   Jul-17-06 12:04 PM   #85 
  - fact check  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-14-06 09:46 AM   #2 
  - Is that your best shot?  BeFree   Jul-14-06 11:35 AM   #3 
  - Hi Be Free, As Dan Rather said in another thread..  Melissa G   Jul-14-06 11:50 AM   #4 
  - Hi Melissa G  BeFree   Jul-14-06 12:45 PM   #5 
  - DU is used by quite a few activists in the ER community to get information  mod mom   Jul-14-06 12:59 PM   #7 
     - so sad, but true, mod mom and Be Free.. n/t  Melissa G   Jul-15-06 07:57 PM   #50 
        - could it be plausibly deniable swiftboating?  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-16-06 07:37 AM   #56 
  - well, yes, the exit polls are the weakest spot  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-14-06 12:58 PM   #6 
  - No , not the exit polls themselves, just the nits some people pick..  Melissa G   Jul-14-06 01:01 PM   #8 
     - OK, but if you don't have an argument, then you don't have an argument  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-14-06 02:23 PM   #12 
        - Otoh, you have been refuted..I've argued with you and find that you waste  Melissa G   Jul-14-06 04:08 PM   #13 
           - well, no, I haven't  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-14-06 04:20 PM   #14 
              - I trudged though it a while back..not convincing..  Melissa G   Jul-14-06 05:21 PM   #15 
                 - evidence?  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-14-06 05:51 PM   #17 
                    - You would be wrong, I do believe it...Even Here In RED Texas..  Melissa G   Jul-14-06 06:21 PM   #18 
                       - Let's be fair here Melissa  Febble   Jul-14-06 06:50 PM   #19 
                       - A response to the NEDA handout  Febble   Jul-14-06 06:51 PM   #20 
                       - Wow  BeFree   Jul-15-06 12:47 AM   #31 
                       - Et tu , Febble... so sad..  Melissa G   Jul-15-06 05:32 PM   #44 
                          - Are you serious?  Febble   Jul-15-06 06:26 PM   #48 
                             - The last time we were discussing how you and OTOH worked together  Melissa G   Jul-15-06 07:33 PM   #49 
                                - but, Melissa, you apparently don't have any arguments  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-15-06 08:06 PM   #51 
                                - Well, it appears you didn't take in  Febble   Jul-16-06 06:26 AM   #53 
                       - huh?  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-14-06 06:53 PM   #21 
                       - why TIA's latest post is wrong  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-15-06 06:58 AM   #35 
  - Self-delete. (Can't believe we are still wasting time on this.) nt  Bill Bored   Jul-14-06 05:27 PM   #16 
     - Sorry to have bored you, bill. oh well.  BeFree   Jul-14-06 10:46 PM   #25 
        - Too,  BeFree   Jul-15-06 12:01 AM   #28 
  - nope, sorry  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-14-06 01:10 PM   #9 
     - I refuse to look?  BeFree   Jul-14-06 01:35 PM   #10 
        - dude, I've been putting it up front for over a year now  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-14-06 02:16 PM   #11 
           - Up front?  BeFree   Jul-14-06 10:44 PM   #24 
              - what's wrong with yours?  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-14-06 11:16 PM   #26 
                 - There you go again  BeFree   Jul-14-06 11:57 PM   #27 
                    - well, thanks for quoting me accurately  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-15-06 12:22 AM   #29 
                       - What is your point anyway?  BeFree   Jul-15-06 12:42 AM   #30 
                          - Yes, it matters  Febble   Jul-15-06 03:23 AM   #34 
                             - No, it doesn't  BeFree   Jul-15-06 01:49 PM   #36 
                                - I've told you exactly how I arrived at my opinion  Febble   Jul-15-06 02:22 PM   #37 
                                   - That's all fine and dandy  BeFree   Jul-15-06 04:56 PM   #38 
                                      - I already did. Doh. n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-15-06 05:06 PM   #39 
                                      - But you can't repeat it?  BeFree   Jul-15-06 05:20 PM   #41 
                                         - Well, while you are waiting, how about  Febble   Jul-15-06 05:27 PM   #42 
                                         - See # 36  BeFree   Jul-15-06 05:36 PM   #45 
                                            - how does that answer the question?  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-16-06 07:25 AM   #55 
                                            - Tag teamers again  BeFree   Jul-16-06 08:40 AM   #57 
                                            - so you meant to answer "No, they aren't"?  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-16-06 11:59 AM   #58 
                                            - Good. Thanks  BeFree   Jul-16-06 02:51 PM   #59 
                                            - how about you defend some of your args on your own thread?  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-16-06 02:57 PM   #60 
                                            - He shoots! He scores!  BeFree   Jul-16-06 03:12 PM   #61 
                                            - Terms need explaining  Febble   Jul-16-06 03:24 PM   #62 
                                            - Thanks  BeFree   Jul-16-06 04:12 PM   #65 
                                            - That's a very good thought.  Febble   Jul-16-06 05:10 PM   #70 
                                            - OK, that's something  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-16-06 03:38 PM   #63 
                                            - I think Freeman told me it was Simon's term  Febble   Jul-16-06 03:42 PM   #64 
                                            - Febble, have you looked at the following?  eomer   Jul-17-06 06:19 AM   #77 
                                            - PMJI, I think Febble has left the building  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-17-06 07:55 AM   #78 
                                            - What about when you roll it up to county level then?  eomer   Jul-17-06 08:38 AM   #79 
                                            - nebular, nebulous....  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-17-06 09:13 AM   #80 
                                            - Yes, I'm sure you're right (about micronumerosity).  eomer   Jul-17-06 09:37 AM   #81 
                                            - just to repeat myself ;)  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-17-06 09:51 AM   #82 
                                            - Yes, I'll think along those lines.  eomer   Jul-17-06 10:13 AM   #83 
                                            - check with Time for change re: Ohio  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-17-06 10:30 AM   #84 
                                            - Yes, I did look at that  Febble   Jul-18-06 04:35 PM   #86 
                                            - Two points for snarkiness!  BeFree   Jul-16-06 04:26 PM   #66 
                                            - that's not snarkiness, that's reality  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-16-06 04:49 PM   #68 
                                            - Going for a three pointer, eh?  BeFree   Jul-16-06 05:04 PM   #69 
                                            - oh, yeah, right  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-16-06 05:14 PM   #71 
                                         - now, here's an odd sort of tag team  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-16-06 06:41 AM   #54 
                                            - Melissa!  BeFree   Jul-16-06 04:35 PM   #67 
                                               - That's right, BeFree  Febble   Jul-16-06 05:18 PM   #72 
                                               - LOL! Be Free!! I like talking to you but I'm not inclined to waste my  Melissa G   Jul-16-06 11:00 PM   #73 
                                               - Yeah,  BeFree   Jul-16-06 11:29 PM   #74 
                                               - In that case  Febble   Jul-16-06 11:53 PM   #76 
                                               - Well, if you don't want to talk to us  Febble   Jul-16-06 11:50 PM   #75 
                                      - I did show you the data  Febble   Jul-15-06 05:12 PM   #40 
                                         - That picture is your data?  BeFree   Jul-15-06 05:28 PM   #43 
                                            - That picture is data  Febble   Jul-15-06 05:44 PM   #46 
                                               - Bye, bye  BeFree   Jul-15-06 05:48 PM   #47 
  - Nitpicking and not very good nitpicking...  althecat   Jul-14-06 08:04 PM   #22 
     - oh, golly  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-14-06 09:02 PM   #23 
     - Remarkable post althecat. And a heads up on ERD history, important.  autorank   Jul-15-06 02:25 AM   #32 
     - This is getting SO silly....  Febble   Jul-15-06 02:50 AM   #33 
  - For a much better discussion see this thread  BeFree   Jul-15-06 10:40 PM   #52 
 

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