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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:19 PM
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9. what does "all hell will break loose" mean?
**this message is written to all, not to you personally, autorank

Do we really need to set some off in the distance line in the sand and say "ooh, when just one more election is not right, ooh, then there's really going to be trouble." Aren't we long past that? Peaceful Revolution is necessary, NOW!

If you don't want to have that conversation, as so many don't, then let's at least discuss what "all hell will break loose" means. What do you see happening then, exactly, that will be a positive conscious choice made by We The People. Whatever it is, it has to be well planned. Let's start here, NOW!

Last night I attended a meeting of the Humboldt County Election Advisory Committee, a citizen group open to all, convened by our registrar and elections manager. I have previously called for them both to resign and this has been news here. None of us has any idea what to expect when we're in a room together. In a very civil dialog, I had an amazing opportunity to say (paraphrasing):
If you want to promote voter confidence, and if you want to really show the community that you are hearing our concerns, you need a different attitude about our election conditions. You need to stop trying to explain why its really all ok, that you have it under control, and we should just go along. You need to come out with a strong acknowledgment of all that is common knowledge and you need to declare that your criteria for judging election conditions will now be whether they offer a basis for confidence. Until you stop telling people they should believe, and start showing us why we should believe, you are going to be struggling to gain voter confidence.
That felt awesome! I saw the registrar making notes and she didn't respond. The squirrelly elections manager was a little defensive and questioned what metrics should be used to decide if something is transparent enough. I didn't really say anything more. Another citizen then mostly backed me up, talking about security in banks which of course assume embezzlement threats from outside as well as within. The meeting continued along with the flow and there was no big deal that I had just dumped this out there. I promise you, it will come up again. Today's news just makes me more on point.

We Do Not Consent.

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  -Indy Star: ES&S blasted for multiple mistakes, "don't care" attitude Amaryllis  Apr-07-06 03:21 PM   #0 
  - Instructions? Who needs instructions?  louis-t   Apr-07-06 03:26 PM   #1 
  - This is part of a very troubling pattern...outright failures.  autorank   Apr-07-06 06:45 PM   #2 
  - ES&S bought by SIAC ?  Votergater   Apr-07-06 08:11 PM   #8 
  - Oops, my error. Must be a prei-cognitive memory. Welcome to DU!!!  autorank   Apr-07-06 10:25 PM   #18 
  - what does "all hell will break loose" mean?  GuvWurld   Apr-07-06 08:19 PM   #9 
     - Guv, I don't think it's fair to say people don't want to have that  Amaryllis   Apr-07-06 08:30 PM   #10 
     - Is there interest in doing a conference call about what to do?  GuvWurld   Apr-07-06 09:46 PM   #15 
     - Guv try being civil. Don't take it, whatever it is, out on me. n/t  autorank   Apr-07-06 10:24 PM   #17 
        - Puh-leeze, I'm not taking anything out on anyone  GuvWurld   Apr-07-06 10:33 PM   #19 
           - "I was speaking to all" ... I'm included.. so you were talking to me;)  autorank   Apr-08-06 02:08 AM   #22 
  - These screw balls cant get it right. NJ has a primary in IIRC may  FogerRox   Apr-07-06 07:12 PM   #3 
  - Thanks Amaryllis! I'm hunting ammo to take  vickiss   Apr-07-06 07:29 PM   #4 
  - give HELL vickiss, give 'em some hell for me  FogerRox   Apr-07-06 07:39 PM   #5 
  - I figure if I can get the sweet older ladies  vickiss   Apr-07-06 09:15 PM   #12 
  - have you been reading Brad on the ES&S memory card messups?  Amaryllis   Apr-07-06 08:01 PM   #6 
  - Yes, good stuff! Have been bookmarking like mad! n/t  vickiss   Apr-07-06 09:16 PM   #13 
  - And this:  Amaryllis   Apr-07-06 08:03 PM   #7 
     - Thanks so much for all the help Amaryllis. I hope I choose the  vickiss   Apr-07-06 09:18 PM   #14 
  - This is not new. They knew of these problems in 2004. Link...  Bushfire   Apr-07-06 08:35 PM   #11 
  - Companies like ES&S are so connected with the cabal. They know they don't  nicknameless   Apr-07-06 10:00 PM   #16 
  - K + R  mod mom   Apr-07-06 10:48 PM   #20 
  - "all Hell will break loose" --GuvWurld asks a good strategic question.  Peace Patriot   Apr-08-06 01:13 AM   #21 
  - Yeah, let's do a conference call!  emlev   Apr-08-06 12:51 PM   #23 
     - There are two different goals, which I tried to distinguish: 1) challeng-  Peace Patriot   Apr-08-06 01:26 PM   #24 
 

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