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Wed Apr-05-06 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #8 |
| 9. Lost in the woods, eh? |
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Well, yeah. When it comes to bill making (they say its like making sausage) then, yeah, lost.
Things change. Bills change. 550 can change. Make it so, if you can. I hope you do.
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| -The HOLT BILL, major major problems in Election Reform-Land |
Land Shark |
Apr-05-06 09:45 PM |
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Vote # 1. This belongs on the DU Homepage, imho. |
understandinglife |
Apr-05-06 09:48 PM |
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Voter #2 |
windy252 |
Apr-05-06 09:48 PM |
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#3. First-rate analysis and explanation of the key voting security issues |
bleever |
Apr-05-06 09:56 PM |
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KNR- #4 |
kster |
Apr-05-06 09:59 PM |
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Ivory Soap is 99 and 44 one-hundredths per cent pure. So... |
bleever |
Apr-05-06 10:06 PM |
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I say I'm voter #5. |
Wilms |
Apr-05-06 10:08 PM |
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Can't, won't argue |
BeFree |
Apr-05-06 10:14 PM |
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If you're lost in the woods, it's wise to sit and think for a while |
Land Shark |
Apr-05-06 10:17 PM |
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Lost in the woods, eh? |
BeFree |
Apr-05-06 10:20 PM |
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I'm only rebutting tangentially the idea that we MUST do something |
Land Shark |
Apr-05-06 10:26 PM |
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Suggest amendments if you like-but April 6/7 is call the Hill to pass Holt |
papau |
Apr-07-06 08:55 AM |
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Hey LS: If all politics is local, why isn't the vote-counting? |
bleever |
Apr-05-06 10:25 PM |
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Well said. n/t |
Wilms |
Apr-05-06 10:31 PM |
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We vote locally. I trust those good folks who man my precinct |
bleever |
Apr-05-06 10:39 PM |
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This is the argument I find myself making. |
Wilms |
Apr-05-06 11:30 PM |
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I agree ...seriously ...why not? |
NVMojo |
Apr-05-06 11:38 PM |
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Here are yet more reasons for caution: |
Amaryllis |
Apr-05-06 11:00 PM |
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What's with Sec. 5, Amarylls? |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-06-06 12:16 AM |
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Someone else wrote this so I can't answer your question! But I think |
Amaryllis |
Apr-06-06 12:03 PM |
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don't forget the Trojan Horse problem. Nothing good will come out of this |
Amaryllis |
Apr-05-06 11:07 PM |
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HAVA and HOLT here we go again |
kster |
Apr-05-06 11:34 PM |
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Is that a Sequoia Redwood touchscreen, kster? n/t |
Wilms |
Apr-05-06 11:37 PM |
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Once again, I'm with Amaryllis |
GuvWurld |
Apr-06-06 01:02 AM |
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definitely home page, must read material! |
NVMojo |
Apr-05-06 11:34 PM |
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HR 550 appears to have several critically important, positive provisions... |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-05-06 11:40 PM |
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LS isn;t saying there aren't some positive provisions, just that there are |
Amaryllis |
Apr-05-06 11:49 PM |
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response to some of Peace Patriot's specific points |
Land Shark |
Apr-06-06 01:36 AM |
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Land Shark, is Holt lying to us? If so, we need to know if this is |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-06-06 02:37 PM |
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A spearhead/michael franti song line: U want rights? Ask 'em to READ 'em |
Land Shark |
Apr-06-06 02:46 PM |
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READ THIS |
garybeck |
Apr-05-06 11:46 PM |
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That's what I posted on post 14. That's okay; people will be more likelly |
Amaryllis |
Apr-05-06 11:50 PM |
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yup, i saw yours after I posted. we'll survive :) n/t |
garybeck |
Apr-06-06 12:09 AM |
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Well speaking for a state whose Election Law allows us to keep |
Bill Bored |
Apr-06-06 12:03 AM |
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Audits very critical, can't afford Holt audits discrediting all audits |
Land Shark |
Apr-06-06 12:58 AM |
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I am amending my "Resources for American Revolution II" as follows: |
Peace Patriot |
Apr-06-06 12:36 AM |
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And here's more: |
Bill Bored |
Apr-06-06 01:00 AM |
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Let's apply the Holt "audit" provision to some place like Iowa |
Land Shark |
Apr-06-06 01:42 AM |
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This is why |
BeFree |
Apr-06-06 09:54 PM |
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Thank you. I'm tired of second class solutions to world class problems. |
autorank |
Apr-06-06 02:22 AM |
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thanks for your thoughts auto, always on point |
Land Shark |
Apr-06-06 09:59 AM |
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DBSM? |
Amaryllis |
Apr-06-06 11:59 AM |
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LS, what about your argument that SECRET VOTE COUNTING is illegal |
Amaryllis |
Apr-06-06 12:01 PM |
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that's a good point, but we need to weigh in on what constitutes PROOF |
Land Shark |
Apr-06-06 01:37 PM |
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Can you guess which one is Diebold and which one is Holt 550? |
kster |
Apr-06-06 10:28 PM |
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Great image, Kster! Lemme see....after careful deliberation I think I have |
Amaryllis |
Apr-07-06 10:33 AM |
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Yep, the Coyote " Holt bill" is trying to get the Road runner "Diebold" |
kster |
Apr-07-06 06:43 PM |
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I thought Diebold was coyote and Holt was roadrunner! Roadrunner is |
Amaryllis |
Apr-07-06 08:10 PM |
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Acme is Diebold, Road Runner is the Election and the Coyote is... |
Bill Bored |
Apr-07-06 08:59 PM |
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Meep Meep!! That's a good one. |
Land Shark |
Apr-07-06 10:39 PM |
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I like that one, wouldn't that make our Goverment be like |
kster |
Apr-07-06 11:03 PM |
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funny thing is, once you realize the odds of this 2% audit catching |
Land Shark |
Apr-08-06 01:39 AM |
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Right now there are states that |
kster |
Apr-08-06 02:23 AM |
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No this is an exaggeration. I'm sure it says "at least 2%." |
Bill Bored |
Apr-08-06 02:55 AM |
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Atleast 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 and or 10% |
kster |
Apr-08-06 03:30 AM |
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doesn't matter what the bill ULTIMATELY means, you can bet your life |
Land Shark |
Apr-08-06 05:47 AM |
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it's true that it does say 'at least 2%' but since when do people go above |
Land Shark |
Apr-08-06 05:51 AM |
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One interpretation is that if the one-in-each-county requirement |
Bill Bored |
Apr-09-06 02:43 AM |
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not 100% |
Febble |
Apr-09-06 05:18 AM |
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Because of the nature of DREs allowing for multiple ballots to be |
Land Shark |
Apr-09-06 05:51 AM |
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as far as the effect of "cautioning" folks to keep their fraud limited |
Land Shark |
Apr-10-06 11:42 PM |
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One of our county election clerks said "Be very careful what you ask for." |
Amaryllis |
Apr-06-06 01:31 PM |
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Another good point, I call that "turning the kaleidoscope" above |
Land Shark |
Apr-06-06 01:39 PM |
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think you have a typo in second sentence in above post, can you |
Amaryllis |
Apr-06-06 02:39 PM |
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I certainly agree with your point about the audits |
Time for change |
Apr-06-06 03:53 PM |
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Paul this is great - |
Joe for Clark |
Apr-06-06 04:49 PM |
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kick + rec'd, nt |
mod mom |
Apr-06-06 05:20 PM |
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Can we take OHIO as an example? |
Bill Bored |
Apr-06-06 10:46 PM |
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I think we have to write our respective congressmen/women to talk |
rumpel |
Apr-07-06 01:29 AM |
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Imagine another Bush-styled election in November - which is likely |
Imagevision |
Apr-07-06 01:40 AM |
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kster |
Apr-10-06 11:29 PM |
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er, could you repeat that, again? : ) eom |
Land Shark |
Apr-11-06 08:32 AM |
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I was minutes away from |
WeHoldTheseTruths |
Apr-07-06 05:11 AM |
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I'm at the votetrustusa conference right now, and it's being discussed |
Land Shark |
Apr-07-06 10:34 PM |
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A Bev Harris Bot appears |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Apr-08-06 06:34 PM |
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Damn I'm getting confused. |
lonestarnot |
Apr-14-06 04:27 PM |
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You're right, who needs voter verified paper ballots |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Apr-08-06 06:42 PM |
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kick.nt |
kster |
Apr-08-06 07:25 PM |
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How do you audit paperless voting? |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Apr-08-06 07:33 PM |
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Better question, Why did my Government allow paperless voting |
kster |
Apr-08-06 11:51 PM |
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Thanks Paul! |
Steve A Play |
Apr-08-06 07:44 PM |
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yeah, we just heard from Mr. Martinez of the EAC today at the DC conf'ence |
Land Shark |
Apr-08-06 08:35 PM |
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KICK.NT |
kster |
Apr-09-06 03:41 PM |
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The GOP, Diebold & Pres Jeb Bush are greatful to you |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Apr-11-06 06:47 PM |
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your opposition completely deluded |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Apr-11-06 07:05 PM |
#83 |
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