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9. It's Not Exactly the Right Question IMO
the question is "which system offers greater security against tampering?" This depends not only on the technical system, but on the human process. Most pertinently, who has access under what condition to the ballots or voting data? How are those collected, gathered, and reported? What checks are in place to ensure that the official vote matches the total reported by an individual polling station?

I am more concerned about the possibility of paper ballot fraud than a lot of DUers are. Paper is impervious to hacking, but it creates other ways of committing fraud. Jimmy Carter, for example, wrote a book about his experience with paper ballot fraud. Hunter Thompson was convinced Humphrey used paper ballot fraud in Cuyahoga County to beat McGovern in the 1972 primary. The list can be expanded ad infinitum.

I believe it might be possible to design an automated or partially automated system that would be more secure than pure paper. But it's not what's being done today with the secrecy and massive security holes.

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  -"It's far easier to manipulate paper ballots than encrypted memory cards" Amaryllis  Mar-14-06 09:20 AM   #0 
  - and having both is better?  shoelace414   Mar-14-06 09:21 AM   #1 
  - Optical scan machines ARE a big danger.  rooboy   Mar-14-06 09:22 AM   #2 
  - Sure it is, if you're an old-time campaigner with no computer skills!  Atman   Mar-14-06 09:23 AM   #3 
  - No physical evidence = The Perfect Crime  Canuckistanian   Mar-14-06 09:39 AM   #4 
  - I guess they think if they say a lie long enough, it will eventually take.  shance   Mar-14-06 09:43 AM   #5 
  - Why can't we just throw out all the machines? Paper ballots, counted  sinkingfeeling   Mar-14-06 09:51 AM   #6 
  - Pretty easy to manipulate touch screen systems and memory cards  Coastie for Truth   Mar-14-06 10:15 AM   #7 
  - Paper ballots have been manipulated for a long time. And  John Q. Citizen   Mar-14-06 10:37 AM   #8 
  - It's Not Exactly the Right Question IMO  ribofunk   Mar-14-06 12:20 PM   #9 
  - OK, I'll fire one off..  mcranor   Mar-14-06 12:38 PM   #10 
  - To alter a meaningfull amount of paper ballots would require...  yourout   Mar-14-06 06:42 PM   #11 
  - Master Key  simonm   Mar-14-06 11:24 PM   #12 

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