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St. Pete Times: "No conspiracy needed to support paper trail" -MSM, guys!
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No conspiracy needed to support paper trail
By HOWARD TROXLER, Times Columnist
Published March 8, 2006

Since the 2004 election, an energetic and mostly Democratic group of folks has alleged (1) the election was rigged and (2) we need better safeguards for our electronic voting machines. As long as we are putting questions (1) and (2) together, we are going nowhere.

Mainstream America is not going to buy the conspiracy theory unless President Bush gets caught on tape saying, "Me and Diebold stole the election, heh, heh."

Neither does the conspiracy theory give Republicans (who, after all, are the majority in our Legislature) much room to support better safeguards. Republicans have been forced by default to defend the touch-screen machines used in 15 Florida counties.

So where we go from here depends on the goal.

If the goal is for Democrats to keep on accusing Republicans of stealing the last election, and Republicans to keep on calling Democrats sore losers and nutbags, then we don't need to do anything else.

Copyright, St. Petersburg Times. All rights reserved.

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  -St. Pete Times: "No conspiracy needed to support paper trail" -MSM, guys! Amaryllis  Mar-09-06 01:50 PM   #0 
  - Good. However, what matters is who counts the ballots.  shance   Mar-09-06 01:56 PM   #1 
  - YOu are absolutely right, but this guy has done nothing but pooh-pooh  Amaryllis   Mar-09-06 02:03 PM   #2 
     - Great point Amaryllis. Progress is always good.  shance   Mar-09-06 05:15 PM   #4 
     - he's still pooh-poohing you  Cocoa   Mar-11-06 05:26 PM   #12 
  - Good catch. K&R  sfexpat2000   Mar-09-06 03:45 PM   #3 
  - Are we getting close or what  kster   Mar-09-06 08:16 PM   #5 
  - Thank you, Mr. Troxler. Great column.  lostnfound   Mar-09-06 09:46 PM   #6 
  - Another conspiracy trail that the media conveniently ignores...  EVDebs   Mar-09-06 10:53 PM   #7 
  - he's not with you, he's against you  Cocoa   Mar-11-06 04:39 PM   #8 
  - good point, but narrow your brush...  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-11-06 05:12 PM   #9 
     - Oh! You must be a Freeper!  Wilms   Mar-11-06 05:18 PM   #10 
     - I don't mind a big-tent approach -- heck, it would be progress n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-11-06 09:57 PM   #13 
     - Et, tu, wilms?  BeFree   Mar-12-06 04:38 PM   #20 
        - I'm afraid I'm not clear on the context of your question  Wilms   Mar-12-06 05:18 PM   #22 
     - I think the "election was stolen" group has been very successful  Cocoa   Mar-11-06 05:24 PM   #11 
        - I am going to take a more optimistic view  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-11-06 10:28 PM   #14 
           - I believe it was stolen but don't believe that leading with that is the  Amaryllis   Mar-11-06 10:47 PM   #15 
              - Seems the author sees need for reform while not believing many reformists.  Wilms   Mar-12-06 04:41 AM   #16 
              - dare I add something?  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-12-06 08:43 AM   #17 
              - oh, consider why your last GD:P thread was still preaching to the choir  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-12-06 01:55 PM   #18 
                 - oops, emoticon blooper -- meant GD:P, not GD :tongue: n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-12-06 05:26 PM   #23 
  - Hoo-boy  BeFree   Mar-12-06 04:37 PM   #19 
  - OK, Amaryllis, here is your gut check n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Mar-12-06 05:14 PM   #21 
  - Troxler is an ass!  BeFree   Mar-12-06 08:05 PM   #24 
  - How about hiring some computer savvy person-just kidding nt  Peggy Day   Mar-13-06 05:07 PM   #25 

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