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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:48 PM
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15. Your idea is brilliant. Here's a suggestion...
In England, they threw out machines and went back to paper. Bank tellers count the ballots in public, observed by anyone who wants to watch. It works. England had a little problem with mail in ballots (but Oregon doesn't!). But I think the English model works. It's there.

NOW, here's the cool part. There will be a time in the next few months when everybody realizes it's a rigged game. The public is more than ready and the story is leaking out more and more.

We need to be ready. Our response: USE THE ENGLISH MODEL!
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  -Here's How We Do Paper Ballots BeFree  Nov-28-05 10:49 AM   #0 
  - kick.n.recommended.nt  kster   Nov-28-05 11:40 AM   #1 
  - Break it down for me, BeFree?  sfexpat2000   Nov-28-05 11:52 AM   #2 
  - I want to hear more about this  emlev   Nov-28-05 12:41 PM   #3 
  - Hey, emlev  BeFree   Nov-28-05 06:53 PM   #9 
  - great idea  dwickham   Nov-28-05 01:26 PM   #4 
  - Given the HAVA situation  emlev   Nov-28-05 02:59 PM   #5 
  - Ohio, Mass and hopefully other states will have HCPB initiatives on the  mod mom   Nov-28-05 03:49 PM   #6 
  - how did you arrive at $7 figure - can you post your "analysis"  diva77   Nov-28-05 04:54 PM   #7 
  - Hey Diva  BeFree   Nov-28-05 10:08 PM   #12 
     - about that nonpartisan issue??  diva77   Nov-29-05 01:50 AM   #17 
  - kicked & recommended n/t  pauldp   Nov-28-05 05:52 PM   #8 
  - Since so many election officials insist on being bought off, be sure to  nicknameless   Nov-28-05 07:43 PM   #10 
  - Getting the ball rolling....  BeFree   Nov-28-05 09:51 PM   #11 
  - Advertise  kster   Nov-28-05 11:06 PM   #14 
  - Why can't we just start an "ask for a paper ballot" campaign?  Tiggeroshii   Nov-28-05 10:37 PM   #13 
  - Your idea is brilliant. Here's a suggestion...  autorank   Nov-28-05 11:48 PM   #15 
  - Short and sweet soundbite. I like it. n/t  pauldp   Nov-29-05 12:16 AM   #16 
  - needs clarification  Cocoa   Nov-29-05 09:39 AM   #18 
  - Hello, Cocoa  BeFree   Nov-29-05 07:54 PM   #20 
  - Paper ballots NOW!!! Hand counts NOW!!!  In Truth We Trust   Nov-29-05 10:51 AM   #19 
  - The problem, ITWTrust, is.......  BeFree   Nov-29-05 08:05 PM   #21 
     - The costs will always favor the DREs in the end  onthebench   Nov-29-05 11:37 PM   #22 
        - "DRE's will always be cheaper than paper in the end"  ISUGRADIA   Nov-30-05 08:40 AM   #23 
        - If I use your numbers...  onthebench   Nov-30-05 04:15 PM   #26 
           - hey there  OnTheOtherHand   Nov-30-05 05:41 PM   #28 
           - The big problems with hand counting are  onthebench   Nov-30-05 09:34 PM   #29 
              - I will agree that counting is hell  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-01-05 07:45 AM   #32 
                 - i will look for a ballot, not much time today to spend here  onthebench   Dec-01-05 10:00 PM   #36 
           - I still believe delays are more likely with DREs  ISUGRADIA   Dec-01-05 04:24 PM   #33 
        - DRE's are cheaper?  BeFree   Nov-30-05 09:12 AM   #24 
        - excellent response BeFree! Integrity first!  In Truth We Trust   Nov-30-05 09:39 AM   #25 
        - Well UK ballots  Febble   Nov-30-05 04:21 PM   #27 
           - But isn't there only one office on your ballot?  ISUGRADIA   Nov-30-05 10:04 PM   #30 
              - Yes  Febble   Dec-01-05 01:44 AM   #31 
                 - kick.nt  kster   Dec-03-05 02:09 AM   #39 
  - kick.nt  kster   Dec-01-05 09:38 PM   #34 
  - My metro area is over a million voters  mmonk   Dec-01-05 09:43 PM   #35 
  - well, that's what we're trying to figure out  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-02-05 06:14 AM   #38 
  - To study the very inexpensive  kster   Dec-01-05 10:32 PM   #37 
  - Kick.nt  kster   Dec-04-05 12:31 AM   #40 

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