You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

The Stalking of Andy Stephenson [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:54 AM
Original message
The Stalking of Andy Stephenson
Advertisements [?]
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 08:15 AM by sfexpat2000
This is an account requested by Mark Crispin Miller. And this is a draft, an early one.

But what I hope we can take away from this story is that we are playing for keeps.

* * *

I have lived for the last ten weeks with Andy Stephensons cancer. And in the most useless way. I couldnt take it away, couldnt relieve him of it, couldnt mind it for a few hours so he could be freed to do the work he so loved.

Andy was one of the most luminous people I have never met, because we never shared room temperature. I read his posts to a discussion board, then exchanged email with him. Later, when he was casting around for medical care, we had phone contact, increasingly as his situation became more obviously urgent.

And through the unfolding of our friendship, I understood that the being on the other side of the keyboard or the phone line was remarkable, was a gift walking among us. Sometimes a prickly gift or a demanding one but, all gifts have their particular qualities, if only to soften brilliance that laid bare would be blinding for most eyes.

I have heard Andy jubilant and terrified, laughing and sobbing. Playful and petulant. My deepest regret is that I wont hear him again.

When Andy suspected his ill health was serious, I offered to make calls for him. I have made calls for families unable to find resources for over a decade. The public health care system nearly killed my husband, and when we were given a reprieve, I swore I would work to help anyone to find the care they needed.

I had little real success in finding resources for Andy, except in the sense that we widened the circle of friends who helped us look. One of them struck gold, and was able to get Andy taken on as a patient by a respected doctor at Johns Hopkins. This seems no less than a miracle to us. There are many cancer patients in the world and no matter their net worth, they are not taken on easily by doctors at Johns Hopkins.

That left only the money. Out of state patients must be prepared to pay the full costs of their surgeries in advance. So, a group of Andys friends set out to try to raise the funds needed, armed with only love and hope and a very short window to come up with the cash before we were all turned away.

That we did indeed raise $50, 000 in 11 days, in small donations and in many currencies is a measure of how beloved Andy was. None of us had the skill to open wallets, per se. This was for Andy.

And at this point, the story becomes bifurcated. One fork is the progress of love and hope and generosity that he elicited among the progressive community who shook junk drawers and upended sofa cushions and did without one trip to the mall to send in a donation. They made Andys surgery possible. And it is true that when I announced to an incredulous employee at Johns Hopkins that we had raised the money, Im sure she heard me say, we found Monopoly Money and would she accept that? Paypal and Amazon accounts seem not to be used very often by Johns Hopkins clientele.

But the other fork of this story is the profound disturbance it created in the Bush right wing. I didnt understand this until much later. But, the watchers saw our effort, watched the community response and were inspired with what can only be called hatred. Because only such a reaction could account for the vicious attack that was set into motion.

The first weekend of my fundraiser was without incident, but our jubilation of raising $25K in only one hundred hours must have goaded the Bush right. Before the week was out, the rumors of fraud and malfeasance began. I began to get anonymous email demanding to know Andys most personal information. During the second and last weekend of our effort, the contact information I had made available to donors resulted in my email box being spammed with hate mail. I at that point ignored it. It simply never occurred to my that our effort for our friend would become a political death match.

I was in no way prepared for what followed. And, although I have no proof, what followed was a concerted political attack on Andy, on our progressive community, and in specific on our ability to raise funds for our projects as well as, an attack on Andys productive work as an elections reform activist and watchdog.

What followed was a coordinated effort to block Andys medical care or his benefit from the medical care we could secure for him. In specific, the Bush right had its agents make small donations so they could then call Paypal with allegations of fraud that froze Andys account. They also called Paypal, misrepresenting themselves as the hospital to verify that this effort was a scam.

And it got more vicious from there. Due to the frozen funds and the confusion it caused us all, Andys surgery date was cancelled by Johns Hopkins. It was with great difficulty that we were able to persuade the doctor to be put Andy back into the surgical rotation. That cost him two weeks while he suffered from the most aggressive, invasive form of cancer.

The smears and the rumors were seeded all over the internet, to many sites. Ill, on hold waiting for his surgery, Andy and the rest of us cast about trying to answer questions that were more often simply calculated accusations meant to discredit us all, meant to make Andys health care as difficult as possible.

Andy called me one day, happy because hed been given a new date. Then again, because theyd moved the date up. He was terrified, sobbing and I was caught flatfooted. Torn between trying to mind Andys care and trying to stop or answer the horrible accusations being sown all over our community, I had very little to offer his terror, dealing with my own.

After Andy was admitted to the hospital, the rumors turned into threats. A bounty was offered by the Bush right for anyone who could sneak into his hospital room. It was said he was getting a face lift. A telegram was sent just to see if it could be successfully delivered. The harassment was nonstop. And we tried to shield Andy from it, with less success than we would have liked.

A day or so after his surgery, Andy called me from his bed in ICU. I picked up the phone and he began to sing to me, Come out, come out, wherever you are. I started crying. And when we hung up, I offered that bit of good news to our on line progressive community at the Democratic Underground. Immediately, the opposition took that as evidence that Andy was not in fact recovering from a surgical marathon. And this was their pattern. Every specific I offered to comfort the community was taken up by Andys stalkers and used as evident that we were frauds.

Andy left the hospital and spent two weeks recovering at a friends house, learning how to eat again, learning how to move, weaning himself from the morphine that hed needed post surgery. During this time, one of his supporters in Baltimore had her car vandalized a message was sent. Shortly after he left to return to Seattle, his second East Coast hostess was stalked to her home and watched as someone tried to open her front door. His supporters everywhere were systematically intimidated and all the while, they tried to keep it from Andy.

Andy then went back home to Seattle, looking forward to a medical course of chemotherapy and radiation. Once he arrived, he found that an anonymous tipster had managed to get his Medicaid shut down. It took us two weeks to get him back in the system. Andy had anaplastic pancreatic cancer and was again forced to wait weeks for follow up care.

By this time, Andys stalkers had set up a website. It purported to be concerned that the funds for his surgery were raised fraudulently. Thankfully by this time, Andy spent very time on line. But it wore on his core advocates who were repeatedly attacked, defamed and baited.

We were threatened with everything from the FBI to the Washington State Attorney General. And of course, because our first concern was Andy, his attitude and his care, our response had to be measured or none. On a good day, we didnt want Andy logging in and reading that he would soon be visited by federal agents to answer for the mythical hundreds of thousands of dollars wed supposedly raised.

As late as week before Andy died, we couldnt keep the poisonous campaign from him. He felt well enough to log into to his email and found a multipage denunciation, supposedly being filed with his states attorney general. He called me, not so much in a panic. Panic was no longer a speed Andy had. He called me in despair, because he could no longer fight the barrage of hatred being leveled at him. I dont remember what I said to him but I hope it helped for a moment.

The attack from the Bush right never paused, not even through the agony of Andys last days. Not at all. Even the fact of his death is being disputed. Two days after his passing, his advocates are still being harassed, still receiving anonymous hate calls, It was a scam. The friend planning his service was visited by two men impersonating sheriffs on the morning after Andy passed. They were there to ask about fraud, they said.

Andys physical death has not stopped the attack, has not slowed the hatred, has not stemmed the steady stream of intimidation.

But, were not afraid. And we take up Andys work to secure our elections in his honor and in your face.

Elizabeth Ferrari
San Francisco
July 12, 2005
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
  -The Stalking of Andy Stephenson sfexpat2000  Jul-12-05 07:54 AM   #0 
  - thanks for all, sfexpat2000  Wickerman   Jul-12-05 08:02 AM   #1 
  - Thanks for this  DemsUnite   Jul-12-05 02:32 PM   #156 
     - Welcome to DU, DemsUnite  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 04:36 PM   #179 
     - no, thanks to you  Wickerman   Jul-12-05 05:14 PM   #191 
  - Almost unbelievable, but I know it's all true and very sad.  graywarrior   Jul-12-05 08:03 AM   #2 
  - graywarrior, it's almost unbelievable to me.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:08 AM   #5 
     - One thing I'm confused about is your statement you "lack proof"  lvx35   Jul-12-05 08:12 AM   #10 
     - Now we can. Understand, in the last ten weeks all we could do  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:21 AM   #16 
     - I hear you.  lvx35   Jul-12-05 08:25 AM   #18 
     - What they did looks like -a civil rights violation.  FourStarDemocrat   Jul-12-05 08:34 AM   #28 
        - No  whosinpower   Jul-12-05 08:42 AM   #38 
           - Nope  Oversea Visitor   Jul-12-05 08:59 AM   #52 
              - what about involuntary manslaughter?  orleans   Jul-12-05 12:34 PM   #142 
                 - May have a good case for wrongful death  guruoo   Jul-18-05 04:25 PM   #365 
     - we've saved EVERYTHING. every post, thread, everything. (nt)  goodboy   Jul-12-05 10:53 AM   #107 
        - And the crucial word is "we".  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 12:24 PM   #138 
           - You're right. We needed each other...and Andy brought us together. (nt)  goodboy   Jul-12-05 12:54 PM   #145 
     - Crude? Not. It moved many emotions...and I don't move easily.  graywarrior   Jul-12-05 08:30 AM   #23 
  - Thanks sfexpat2000 for all your good work  wakeme2008   Jul-12-05 08:05 AM   #3 
  - Wow.  lvx35   Jul-12-05 08:05 AM   #4 
  - They will be called to account!  acmejack   Jul-12-05 08:09 AM   #6 
  - Well Said! I agree whole heartedly!....Kick for Beth!...n/t  BamaBecky   Jul-12-05 10:03 AM   #79 
  - Unreal  meganmonkey   Jul-12-05 08:10 AM   #7 
  - Thanks beth  Oversea Visitor   Jul-12-05 08:10 AM   #8 
  - Kick. And sob.  no_hypocrisy   Jul-12-05 08:11 AM   #9 
  - No, they can't. He's free of these @ssholes.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 03:18 PM   #170 
  - Wow  stellanoir   Jul-12-05 08:13 AM   #11 
  - Thank you so much...  Cassandra   Jul-12-05 08:15 AM   #12 
  - Cassandra, I was only one of many people directly involved.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:19 AM   #14 
  - It surprised those supposedly rugged individualists...  Cassandra   Jul-12-05 08:36 AM   #32 
  - Even more, it surprised them because they are pathetic, unhappy  grace0418   Jul-12-05 09:40 AM   #68 
  - They see only evil.. but it's a mirror they are looking into  SoCalDem   Jul-13-05 04:14 AM   #244 
  - And scared them and continues to scare them  tavalon   Jul-13-05 07:07 AM   #246 
  - quote  Zan_of_Texas   Jul-12-05 06:45 PM   #202 
     - That's right. You can't keep your soul by setting it aside.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:53 PM   #227 
  - I sincerely hope and pray that there is a way to go after these scum . . .  OneBlueSky   Jul-12-05 08:15 AM   #13 
  - I personally have a deep well of patience.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 12:27 PM   #140 
     - I'm not sure what I can do personally, but  FizzFuzz   Jul-12-05 09:13 PM   #216 
  - American Brownshirts  new_beawr   Jul-12-05 08:21 AM   #15 
  - I remember when I first got involved wit politics...  WCGreen   Jul-12-05 08:24 AM   #17 
  - You are so right. They foster hatred as if the fruits of their work  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 01:27 AM   #237 
  - Unbelievable  DemReadingDU   Jul-12-05 08:26 AM   #19 
  - I swear on my sons heads, this isn't about me. It's about  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:34 AM   #27 
  - Thanks. I hope it was freeing for you to get this written down  katinmn   Jul-12-05 08:28 AM   #20 
  - You're right. This was not an accident. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:30 AM   #22 
     - Nope. Election reform is dangerous business.  lvx35   Jul-12-05 08:38 AM   #35 
  - Thank you Elizabeth  sui generis   Jul-12-05 08:29 AM   #21 
  - Good. It's been drafty back there.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:31 AM   #24 
  - Private investigator?  back2basics909   Jul-12-05 08:34 AM   #29 
     - Most of us are still on the floor. But even so, are  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:38 AM   #34 
        - Well  Oversea Visitor   Jul-12-05 09:04 AM   #55 
           - I know. We are very angry as well.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 09:10 AM   #60 
  - thanks for all you did, sfexpat2000 - I suspect mainstream media  papau   Jul-12-05 08:33 AM   #25 
  - This is not a political story  Oversea Visitor   Jul-12-05 08:41 AM   #37 
     - I agree - and I can only hope overseas media picks up on it,  papau   Jul-12-05 08:47 AM   #41 
     - Would not be cover  Oversea Visitor   Jul-12-05 08:55 AM   #47 
        - True - but then the NY Times is not known to chase GOP problems :-)  papau   Jul-12-05 09:50 AM   #73 
     - For me, the worst part is, this IS A POLITICAL STORY  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:15 AM   #86 
        - But the message is clear on that  Oversea Visitor   Jul-12-05 10:26 AM   #94 
  - sobbing again  il_lilac   Jul-12-05 08:33 AM   #26 
  - We're community. We're here. And the more we learn  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:36 AM   #31 
     - thanks  il_lilac   Jul-12-05 08:48 AM   #42 
        - You keep me posted and pm me anytime. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:54 AM   #46 
  - Evil, evil fucking scum.  Beware the Beast Man   Jul-12-05 08:36 AM   #30 
  - Yes. All of that. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:36 AM   #33 
  - What he said....  greatauntoftriplets   Jul-12-05 08:57 AM   #50 
  - Oh, those compassionate conservatives.  Cobalt Violet   Jul-12-05 08:40 AM   #36 
  - This should be permanently on the DU home page.  barbaraann   Jul-12-05 08:42 AM   #39 
  - Yes make it permanent , but re-write it, with a message to the maggots to  Joanne98   Jul-12-05 05:33 PM   #196 
  - Disgusting bastards.  ET Awful   Jul-12-05 08:46 AM   # 
  - I don't know. They are exploiting grieving people.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:53 AM   #45 
  - I Agree  Vinnie From Indy   Jul-12-05 08:21 PM   #210 
     - I think what I'm getting from all of this  tavalon   Jul-13-05 07:42 AM   #249 
        - AND no one could really believe that people would want to stop healing  bobbieinok   Jul-13-05 02:03 PM   #282 
  - Oh my god-I had no idea the extreme lengths  myrna minx   Jul-12-05 08:46 AM   #40 
  - I had no idea....  American in Asia   Jul-12-05 08:50 AM   #43 
  - We are all dealing with them, that's my point.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:56 AM   #49 
  - Hey  Oversea Visitor   Jul-12-05 09:08 AM   #58 
     - I'm south of you just a bit!  American in Asia   Jul-12-05 09:22 AM   #64 
        - Ok  Oversea Visitor   Jul-12-05 09:38 AM   #67 
  - Reading that made me feel both sickened and inspired.  Blackwell Sucks   Jul-12-05 08:52 AM   #44 
  - what Blackwell said.  xxqqqzme   Jul-13-05 01:15 PM   #272 
  - That is so much worse than I imagined.  Misunderestimator   Jul-12-05 08:56 AM   #48 
  - Make 'em known, out them and what do they have?  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 08:58 AM   #51 
     - I'm right behind you in this!  Misunderestimator   Jul-12-05 09:02 AM   #54 
  - Thank you.  Rainbowreflect   Jul-12-05 09:01 AM   #53 
  - I wonder if these bastards are actually funded from up above?  sellitman   Jul-12-05 09:04 AM   #56 
  - I don't wonder. I know.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 09:06 AM   #57 
     - Wow!  sellitman   Jul-12-05 09:09 AM   #59 
     - Andy LOVED to solve riddles. He excelled at it.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 12:49 PM   #144 
     - The best strategy....  lvx35   Jul-12-05 09:13 AM   #61 
        - You may be right. Because without the water carriers  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 09:14 AM   #62 
  - Someday, each of these villains will be on their own deathbeds  Coventina   Jul-12-05 09:22 AM   #63 
  - They lack empathy, they don't care......They are CRUSADERS  BamaBecky   Jul-12-05 10:18 AM   #88 
  - Thanks for laying it all out.  wildeyed   Jul-12-05 09:26 AM   #65 
  - They have chosen the path to their own  Bluerthanblue   Jul-12-05 09:35 AM   #66 
  - thank you, beautifully stated  FizzFuzz   Jul-12-05 10:00 PM   #221 
  - My God, Beth. I had no idea.  Midlodemocrat   Jul-12-05 09:43 AM   #69 
  - Thank you.:  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 09:49 AM   #72 
  - I had no idea things were that bad.  BlondieK143   Jul-12-05 09:45 AM   #70 
  - Wow, you did a great thing helping Andy in his final months. But  mistertrickster   Jul-12-05 09:49 AM   #71 
  - Exactly.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 09:52 AM   #74 
  - I don't mean to scare you either but...these sociopaths seem like  Auntie Bush   Jul-12-05 07:02 PM   #203 
  - That's a pretty good list....would make a good thread all on it's on  BamaBecky   Jul-12-05 09:58 AM   #76 
  - Conspiracy nut... until it happens to you  preciousdove   Jul-12-05 11:08 AM   #111 
     - Wow...  I Have A Dream   Jul-12-05 11:32 AM   #120 
  - And there is still a lot more to this story that you could have told  BamaBecky   Jul-12-05 09:56 AM   #75 
  - It's a balancing act, Becky, between trying to show what  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:03 AM   #78 
     - I fully understand.......that's what I was hinting at.....!  BamaBecky   Jul-12-05 10:04 AM   #81 
        - Yes, sorry. My addled head.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:19 AM   #89 
           - You are doing great! Go easy on yourself!....n/t  BamaBecky   Jul-12-05 10:41 AM   #104 
  - God, Beth  sojourner   Jul-12-05 10:01 AM   #77 
  - Our worry and distractions and now our grief were.exploited  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:05 AM   #82 
  - PS  sojourner   Jul-12-05 10:25 AM   #93 
  - Mark is working on a book about the last sElection.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:28 AM   #96 
     - How do you say "Made me grin" in bloggese?  sojourner   Jul-12-05 10:34 AM   #98 
        - Hey, I've missed you  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 03:48 PM   #171 
           - hey...I've missed everyone. sorry I was "out" during what turns out  sojourner   Jul-12-05 05:08 PM   #190 
              - Someone showed me that at that other place, they're hoping  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 05:40 PM   #197 
                 - ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? this is CRAZY ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  bobbieinok   Jul-13-05 02:14 PM   #285 
                    - Yes, it is. Fortunately, Doug has no fondness  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 03:06 PM   #290 
  - Thank you, Beth.  MelissaB   Jul-12-05 10:36 AM   #102 
     - Melissa.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:48 AM   #127 
        - The last thing I want is for you to be quite.  MelissaB   Jul-12-05 12:31 PM   #141 
           - . . . .  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 12:47 PM   #143 
  - Here is how this stuff makes sense. In their world.  Zan_of_Texas   Jul-12-05 07:11 PM   #205 
  - Thank you, sfexpat. Nominated one more time...  troubleinwinter   Jul-12-05 10:04 AM   #80 
  - And thought they could pass.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:24 AM   #91 
  - Whatever it takes I'm down  StaggerLee   Jul-12-05 10:08 AM   #83 
  - Geezus, that would really drive them nuts.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:17 AM   #87 
  - And the sites that sponsored this and encouraged it or even allowed  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-12-05 10:11 AM   #84 
  - And NSMA knows whereof she speaks -- no idle chatter there n/t  Eloriel   Jul-13-05 01:17 PM   #273 
  - Sounds like the soul for a great  Alizaryn   Jul-12-05 10:12 AM   #85 
  - Thank you. Most of all, we need to LEARN from this. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:21 AM   #90 
  - Thanks Beth  malmapus   Jul-12-05 10:24 AM   #92 
  - I've never been in uniform but feel the same way.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:26 AM   #95 
     - You really are / were a great friend to him  malmapus   Jul-12-05 10:36 AM   #101 
        - That's right. And that was part of Andy's gift.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:59 AM   #132 
  - Damn it - I'm flabbergasted  FlaGranny   Jul-12-05 10:34 AM   #97 
  - Exceptionally well-stated Beth. Thank you.  understandinglife   Jul-12-05 10:35 AM   #99 
  - Do you think so? I hope it does what we need it to do. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:48 AM   #105 
     - I think the message is crystal clear; likely already received. - nt  understandinglife   Jul-12-05 11:02 AM   #109 
     - Thank you, dear constant friend.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:32 AM   #121 
     - Beth, UL is right  hiley   Jul-12-05 11:18 AM   #116 
  - How they must hate themselves  Miss Chybil   Jul-12-05 10:36 AM   #100 
  - sfexpat, thank you for posting.  bear425   Jul-12-05 10:39 AM   #103 
  - Thank you, bear. I will go back over the typos. There are many.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:50 AM   #106 
     - .  merh   Jul-12-05 11:11 AM   #114 
  - Thank you Beth, for putting it out there  hiley   Jul-12-05 10:57 AM   #108 
  - No, they are not taking away the truth.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:11 AM   #115 
  - Possible Hate Crimes Violation, too  REACTIVATED IN CT   Jul-12-05 11:08 AM   #110 
  - Sadly  tavalon   Jul-13-05 07:23 AM   #247 
  - It's people like you-  Old and In the Way   Jul-12-05 11:10 AM   #112 
  - Andy, as Will said, is the best of us.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:21 AM   #117 
  - Can I share this with my email list?  Beam Me Up   Jul-12-05 11:10 AM   #113 
  - BMU, I posted it before I lost my nerve.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:23 AM   #118 
     - Of course, thanks.  Beam Me Up   Jul-12-05 11:24 AM   #119 
  - What exactly happened with the cancellation of the first surgery?  lvx35   Jul-12-05 11:34 AM   #122 
  - I can't speak for the family or for the hospital.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:43 AM   #126 
     - Sounds good.  lvx35   Jul-12-05 11:48 AM   #128 
  - Dear, sweet, Beth,  WhoDoYouTrust   Jul-12-05 11:34 AM   #123 
  - It is numbing, it is.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:38 AM   #124 
  - Beth is right to post this. I WAS THERE and IT WAS BAD.  demodonkey   Jul-12-05 11:40 AM   #125 
  - Thank you for being our Fair Witness, Marybeth.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:50 AM   #129 
  - I keep thinking of Andy through all the weird and negattive energy  frictionlessO   Jul-12-05 11:59 AM   #130 
  - fric, we'll get it done.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 12:01 PM   #133 
     - Love to you as well....  frictionlessO   Jul-12-05 12:26 PM   #139 
        - I'm a train wreck. But please PM me whenever.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 04:28 PM   #178 
  - Thank you Beth.  Debbi801   Jul-12-05 11:59 AM   #131 
  - Debbi  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 12:02 PM   #134 
  - This is so much bigger than any of us thought.....  Desertrose   Jul-12-05 12:06 PM   #135 
  - May Be Much Bigger Indeed.  Yellow Horse   Jul-12-05 12:12 PM   #136 
  - Agree. The DU community is an awesome force.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 12:14 PM   #137 
  - I knew the harassment was bad.........  Historic NY   Jul-12-05 01:16 PM   #146 
  - Incredible...  Robbie Michaels   Jul-12-05 01:27 PM   #147 
  - Yes. And they're about to come after me for speaking up.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 01:38 PM   #149 
     - Please let us know what we can do to help.  MelissaB   Jul-12-05 01:42 PM   #151 
        - Thank you, Melissa. You know, I have this definite hankering  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 01:46 PM   #152 
        - Thanks For Your Support  Robbie Michaels   Jul-12-05 02:33 PM   #157 
  - Thank you so much.  bleever   Jul-12-05 01:36 PM   #148 
  - I believe  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 01:39 PM   #150 
  - thanks, beth  noiretblu   Jul-12-05 01:47 PM   #153 
  - Will do. Signing off to do that now. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 01:56 PM   #155 
  - Un-F'ing-Believable NT  redacted   Jul-12-05 01:48 PM   #154 
  - Yep. very unreal... and it continues to worsen.  KyndCulture   Jul-12-05 02:42 PM   #158 
     - The Freepers Posting On Radio News America  Robbie Michaels   Jul-12-05 02:52 PM   #162 
     - Those are the same hand full of bitter posters  merh   Jul-12-05 03:03 PM   #167 
     - the scary thing - is that it must be far more than a handful  salin   Jul-12-05 05:50 PM   #199 
        - The internet allows for the bi-coastal  merh   Jul-12-05 07:08 PM   #204 
     - They don't want you to get your facts straight  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 03:14 PM   #169 
     - ..  hiley   Jul-12-05 05:40 PM   #198 
     - We don't mind them taking up space on our blog today...  KyndCulture   Jul-12-05 06:15 PM   #201 
     - Oh, my...  MelissaB   Jul-12-05 03:01 PM   #165 
     - good god...I like those ones claiming to be 'progressives' tell me  goodboy   Jul-12-05 04:24 PM   #177 
        - Anyone who calls themself a "moderate"  Robbie Michaels   Jul-12-05 04:40 PM   #182 
  - Thank you for putting this all into one concise thread.  RandomKoolzip   Jul-12-05 02:45 PM   #159 
  - I couldn't do it until Andy was at rest. It was just impossible.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 02:52 PM   #161 
  - I had no idea this was happneing...  Amaya   Jul-12-05 02:49 PM   #160 
  - Thank You For Sharing This  Robbie Michaels   Jul-12-05 02:55 PM   #163 
  - You have, Robbie. Reading your letter helped me  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 03:02 PM   #166 
  - I want to thank you all and make sure that no one thinks  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 02:59 PM   #164 
  - Meanwhile, Over At Radio News America....  Robbie Michaels   Jul-12-05 04:37 PM   #180 
  - Crystal clear  tavalon   Jul-13-05 07:39 AM   #248 
  - A burning fury!  GOPFighter   Jul-12-05 03:03 PM   #168 
  - You know  tavalon   Jul-13-05 07:46 AM   #250 
  - OMG  sparky_in_ma   Jul-12-05 04:01 PM   #172 
  - See why I would come running for santuary?  merh   Jul-12-05 04:48 PM   #185 
  - This is a very chilling story  Time for change   Jul-12-05 04:13 PM   #173 
  - Andy was a political target to them. And that's why I posted  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 04:15 PM   #174 
  - Do you have an idea of how high this reaches? n/t  Time for change   Jul-12-05 08:14 PM   #209 
     - No. And we may never know. But it didn't start in  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 09:45 PM   #220 
  - They were afraid of him  tavalon   Jul-13-05 07:51 AM   #251 
  - It's probably not time for this idea --  emcguffie   Jul-12-05 04:18 PM   #175 
  - We will be here. We will redress this wrong  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 04:23 PM   #176 
  - If anyone thinks this isn't undeclared civil war, think again.  byronius   Jul-12-05 04:38 PM   #181 
  - It is frightening and even dangerous but  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 04:44 PM   #183 
     - Point taken. Your story just made me madder than usual.  byronius   Jul-12-05 04:48 PM   #186 
        - Flip you for the maddest trophy.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 05:00 PM   #188 
  - Beth, thank you for everything. And I now realize that Johns Hopkins  spooky3   Jul-12-05 04:47 PM   #184 
  - That's right. They had no track for a cash patient  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 04:56 PM   #187 
     - I'm sure they also didn't want to get involved in a political "fight".  Auntie Bush   Jul-12-05 07:12 PM   #206 
  - Beth, you and the others that were helping Andy are the truest  cry baby   Jul-12-05 05:01 PM   #189 
  - Hey-- what's this "you guys"? It's "us guys"  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 05:20 PM   #195 
     - That may be, but I don't have stalkers stalking me, and I don't  cry baby   Jul-12-05 08:23 PM   #211 
  - Elizabeth, thanks for that...  TwoSparkles   Jul-12-05 05:14 PM   #192 
  - Thanks for the good wishes. I honestly don't think this has  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 05:19 PM   #193 
  - Thank you for the ugly truth about "The Stalking of Andy Stephenson"  Joan_Alpern   Jul-12-05 05:20 PM   #194 
  - There is a place for people like that.  cornermouse   Jul-12-05 06:07 PM   #200 
  - Nazi Brown Shirts  tommcintyre   Jul-12-05 07:12 PM   #207 
  - Not while we're still here, Tom.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 09:23 PM   #219 
  - thanks for all, sfexpat2000  nedbal   Jul-12-05 07:17 PM   #208 
  - Many years ago  NoBushSpokenHere   Jul-12-05 08:42 PM   #212 
  - Beautifully said, NoBushSpokenHere!  MelissaB   Jul-12-05 08:56 PM   #214 
  - sfexpat, you amaze me  FizzFuzz   Jul-12-05 08:49 PM   #213 
  - The choice is always there, for sure.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 09:20 PM   #218 
     - yes its true, the friends we keep, keep us.  FizzFuzz   Jul-12-05 10:46 PM   #226 
  - Oh my God....  Tommymac   Jul-12-05 09:04 PM   #215 
  - Thank you, Tommymac. Thank you for being here.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 09:17 PM   #217 
  - Their evil knows no bounds!  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-12-05 10:02 PM   #222 
  - Andy loved DU, and we loved him, love him.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:08 PM   #223 
  - I like the private investigator idea - let us know how much $ you'll need  AnotherMother4Peace   Jul-12-05 10:26 PM   #224 
  - Thank you, AM4P. We'll find our way.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 10:33 PM   #225 
  - They are evil.  verdalaven   Jul-12-05 11:09 PM   #228 
  - This is war  Spiffarino   Jul-12-05 11:11 PM   #229 
  - Spiffarino  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:28 PM   #230 
     - I'll do whatever it takes.  Spiffarino   Jul-12-05 11:35 PM   #231 
        - No, we don't back down.  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:38 PM   #232 
  - This was not *just* an attack on election reform...  AtLiberty   Jul-12-05 11:47 PM   #233 
  - Agree. Andy told me that when he was well, he wanted to  sfexpat2000   Jul-12-05 11:52 PM   #234 
  - Thank you sfexpat2000 You are a sterling example of what it  saracat   Jul-13-05 12:16 AM   #235 
  - saracat  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 12:18 AM   #236 
  - I am glad to be on this side of the divide. I don't know how the others  roguevalley   Jul-13-05 02:29 AM   #238 
  - Thank you for telling us. I'm crying and sickened by this account.  Pooka Fey   Jul-13-05 02:51 AM   #239 
  - I know.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 03:01 AM   #240 
     - {{{{sfexpat2000}}}}  Pooka Fey   Jul-13-05 04:34 AM   #245 
     - You are so right  tavalon   Jul-13-05 08:11 AM   #252 
  - I am horrified by the chain of events that took place.  LeahD   Jul-13-05 03:08 AM   #241 
  - sfexpat2000 Thank you for these details  donheld   Jul-13-05 03:24 AM   #242 
  - I think that the handful that are visible approached this as  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 03:35 AM   #243 
     - thank you  freedomfries   Jul-13-05 08:11 AM   #253 
  - the worst among us.  brigidshine   Jul-13-05 09:18 AM   #254 
  - Hi  wakeme2008   Jul-13-05 10:05 AM   #257 
     - hi!!  brigidshine   Jul-13-05 11:24 AM   #264 
  - Pig redneck bastards. Looks like they were out to have a little  The_Casual_Observer   Jul-13-05 09:36 AM   #255 
  - Are there any legal ramifications for what these freepers did?  lateo   Jul-13-05 09:50 AM   #256 
  - This can't be discussed in public but we're looking into it.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 01:28 PM   #276 
  - I am just now reading this Beth.  cat_girl25   Jul-13-05 10:15 AM   #258 
  - ((((((( cat_girl25 )))))))))  merh   Jul-13-05 11:36 AM   #266 
  - I know. It's hard to wrap your mind around, isn't it?  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 02:08 PM   #283 
  - Good. Lord. I knew it was bad, but not THAT bad.  Enraged_Ape   Jul-13-05 10:22 AM   #259 
  - The vultures  Generic Other   Jul-13-05 10:42 AM   #260 
  - Has this hit the MSM? I mean the whole story? It just shows how  applegrove   Jul-13-05 10:55 AM   #261 
  - Seattle Weekly wrote it up >  Stephanie   Jul-13-05 01:22 PM   #274 
  - this is absolutely vile  suffragette   Jul-13-05 11:07 AM   #262 
  - That's so well done, sfexpat2000!  im10ashus   Jul-13-05 11:12 AM   #263 
  - Remember when that Senator died with his family in the plane crash?  applegrove   Jul-13-05 11:30 AM   #265 
  - that was so infuriatingly incredible...THEY turned a memorial into a  bobbieinok   Jul-13-05 02:51 PM   #287 
     - Like progressives took over the solemnity of Reagan's funeral.  applegrove   Jul-13-05 06:49 PM   #303 
  - A special place in heaven, for you, Elizabeth,  Eloriel   Jul-13-05 12:34 PM   #267 
  - There were more than several people who tried to make a ring  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 01:47 PM   #279 
  - Sweet Jesus, Beth. :(  Ladyhawk   Jul-13-05 12:50 PM   #268 
  - It's very ugly, isn't it. My hope is that people will look at  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 01:40 PM   #278 
  - Security guards should be present for the memorial.  BeHereNow   Jul-13-05 12:51 PM   #269 
  - I agree.  MelissaB   Jul-13-05 12:54 PM   #270 
  - Shit -head hate monger sites?  BeHereNow   Jul-13-05 01:03 PM   #271 
  - Unfortunately, yes.  MelissaB   Jul-13-05 01:59 PM   #281 
  - About the showing up? don't understand. Did you mean them, not the?  Amaryllis   Jul-13-05 07:20 PM   #307 
  - I think everybody agrees on this. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 02:13 PM   #284 
     - Hard to fathom that it is necessary to think this way...  BeHereNow   Jul-13-05 02:35 PM   #286 
  - Beth, thanks for all of your work in helping Andy...  prairierose   Jul-13-05 01:25 PM   #275 
  - Thank you prairierose. Trying to cope with the moods alone  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 01:33 PM   #277 
  - I'd been following this story pretty closely, but obviously it was much  SmokingJacket   Jul-13-05 01:55 PM   #280 
  - It always comes back around.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 03:08 PM   #291 
  - Well this post is probably just for myself  Generator   Jul-13-05 02:54 PM   #288 
  - Is real, Generator. Very real.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 03:04 PM   #289 
  - Thank you  SeattleGirl   Jul-13-05 05:00 PM   #292 
  - I am amazed at all DU has done  buddyhollysghost   Jul-13-05 05:32 PM   #293 
  - We won't let evil win.  merh   Jul-13-05 05:48 PM   #295 
     - Evil can't win because it is sterile. It can only destroy.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 05:51 PM   #297 
     - Yeah!  merh   Jul-13-05 05:56 PM   #298 
     - thanks, merh  buddyhollysghost   Jul-14-05 06:03 PM   #344 
        - ~keep the faith~  merh   Jul-14-05 07:45 PM   #345 
  - Thank you for everything you did for Andy...  Raksha   Jul-13-05 05:47 PM   #294 
  - Wow, that's all I can say.  impeachdubya   Jul-13-05 05:50 PM   #296 
  - I think the grief I'm feeling might have skewed this some.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 06:41 PM   #300 
  - You'r ea hero along with the others who helped Andy out through  Tom Yossarian Joad   Jul-13-05 06:27 PM   #299 
  - A criminal offense right here  ohio_liberal   Jul-13-05 06:41 PM   #301 
  - wow, just wow  hippiegranny   Jul-13-05 06:46 PM   #302 
  - Me, too, hippiegranny. What *they* don't get is that this whole thing...  Fridays Child   Jul-13-05 06:59 PM   #305 
     - That's right.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 07:37 PM   #309 
  - Many times in my life I've been required  expatriate   Jul-13-05 06:58 PM   #304 
  - From the early days of this situation  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 07:39 PM   #310 
  - I'm not inclined to wait for karma to take care of these people.  Fridays Child   Jul-13-05 07:04 PM   #306 
  - Thank you, and I agree. But first, let's honor Andy and  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 07:41 PM   #311 
     - Yes, indeed.  Fridays Child   Jul-13-05 07:44 PM   #313 
  - What a sick,sorry bunch of ghouls that lot was. I believe in Karma and  ignatius 2   Jul-13-05 07:24 PM   #308 
  - Ignatius, I too believe in Karma.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 07:43 PM   #312 
  - words still fail, but for "thank you" to Beth & to each of Andy's friends.  savannahana   Jul-13-05 07:57 PM   #314 
  - ana  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 08:12 PM   #315 
     - tears don't crowd margins  savannahana   Jul-13-05 08:19 PM   #316 
        - Hey you!  merh   Jul-13-05 08:21 PM   #317 
           - oh, sweetie survivor triumphant over all that is merely "dennis"  savannahana   Jul-13-05 08:31 PM   #318 
              - Well, damned good thing that was a good hug  merh   Jul-13-05 08:34 PM   #319 
                 - in that case, an even better hug  savannahana   Jul-13-05 08:49 PM   #320 
                    - Ah go on!  merh   Jul-13-05 09:01 PM   #321 
                       - umm,,been known to do just that...("go on") lol  savannahana   Jul-13-05 09:42 PM   #325 
                          - ~Ana~  merh   Jul-13-05 09:47 PM   #326 
  - Mother of God, I knew it was bad, but not this bad.  Rhiannon12866   Jul-13-05 09:06 PM   #322 
  - Rhiannon, I have never been alone, not for a moment.  sfexpat2000   Jul-13-05 09:27 PM   #323 
     - I know that you haven't been alone, Beth, but you've been on the front  Rhiannon12866   Jul-26-05 03:43 AM   #373 
  - Beth, this just breaks my heart, that you and Andy were stalked...  Vadem   Jul-13-05 09:41 PM   #324 
  - And we were, with his friendship.  sfexpat2000   Jul-14-05 02:15 AM   #333 
  - I just spoke with a personal injury attorney about Andy...  AtLiberty   Jul-13-05 10:33 PM   #327 
  - excellent advice  salin   Jul-14-05 06:53 AM   #336 
  - Beth, I just read your account here, and every one of the posts below it.  Peace Patriot   Jul-13-05 10:39 PM   #328 
  - "The darkness is the measure of the light."  sfexpat2000   Jul-14-05 02:33 AM   #334 
  - I've known a long time  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jul-14-05 12:36 AM   #329 
  - Dear God, dear God,  Bouncy Ball   Jul-14-05 12:46 AM   #330 
  - And carry on we shall!  merh   Jul-14-05 01:38 AM   #331 
  - I'm glad you spoke up. They won't be able to hide behind uncertainty  AgadorSparticus   Jul-14-05 01:55 AM   #332 
  - Yes, Andy isn't here to protect them any more.  sfexpat2000   Jul-14-05 02:35 AM   #335 
  - When Congress finally passes a law making verifiable paper ballots  Matilda   Jul-14-05 09:09 AM   #337 
  - I was also thinking of James Chaney, Andrew Goodman & Michael Schwerner  Peace Patriot   Jul-14-05 09:42 AM   #338 
  - That's a very beautiful and inspiring post, Peace Patriot.  Raksha   Jul-14-05 02:09 PM   #343 
     - Beautiful and inspiring and true n/t  WeHoldTheseTruths   Jul-18-05 09:43 PM   #366 
  - There were things I didn't know in there. I teared up again.  Dee625   Jul-14-05 11:57 AM   #339 
  - I'm so happy Andy went to Columbus. It must have been a  sfexpat2000   Jul-14-05 12:40 PM   #340 
  - Hi Dee!  meganmonkey   Jul-15-05 01:11 PM   #351 
     - Thanks Megan  Dee625   Jul-15-05 10:52 PM   #357 
  - I don't think there are words to adequately describe my feelings.  cyberpj   Jul-14-05 01:08 PM   #341 
  - Have you seen this tribute to Andy - It's BALLOT!  cyberpj   Jul-14-05 01:32 PM   #342 
  - i had no idea they took it that far  Faye   Jul-14-05 10:06 PM   #346 
  - Hi Faye!  meganmonkey   Jul-15-05 01:17 PM   #352 
  - ha i miss the old days too.....  Faye   Jul-15-05 03:40 PM   #356 
  - It's good to see you, Faye.  sfexpat2000   Jul-15-05 02:34 PM   #354 
     - aww  Faye   Jul-15-05 03:39 PM   #355 
  - oh my god.  fleabert   Jul-15-05 02:18 AM   #347 
  - K is for "karma".  sfexpat2000   Jul-15-05 02:52 AM   #348 
     - you are welcome.  fleabert   Jul-15-05 04:59 AM   #349 
  - Andy brought out the best in us and you gave us hope  kaygore   Jul-15-05 12:40 PM   #350 
  - dear Kay, I'm so sorry.  sfexpat2000   Jul-15-05 02:33 PM   #353 
  - I didn't know this. This goes beyond politics!  Confound W   Jul-16-05 01:08 AM   #358 
  - Saturday  Oversea Visitor   Jul-16-05 07:08 AM   #359 
  - Andy: progressives fight to save a life; conservatives fight to destroy  bobbieinok   Jul-16-05 06:04 PM   #360 
  - this is beautiful, beth!  genevat   Jul-16-05 07:27 PM   #361 
  - It's okay. The mobile lynch mob is going everywhere  sfexpat2000   Jul-16-05 09:13 PM   #362 
  - OMG  nicknameless   Jul-17-05 10:03 PM   #363 
  - This breaks my heart - how can people be so evil?  holboz   Jul-18-05 01:03 PM   #364 
  - OMG, I knew part of the story but I had no idea they were still torturing  bunny planet   Jul-18-05 11:21 PM   #367 
  - sfexpat2000 and others who were close to Andy, see this post by  Peace Patriot   Jul-20-05 08:36 PM   #368 
  - Seattle Weekly has picked up parts of this story in a series of 3 articles  Nothing Without Hope   Jul-20-05 09:12 PM   #369 
  - That's right, Hope. They are not playing. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-21-05 04:37 PM   #370 
  - The Andy Stephenson Election Reform Memorial Fund...  Kip Humphrey   Jul-22-05 08:23 PM   #371 
  - Kip, I think this is a fine idea. Could we revisit it, say, in a month  sfexpat2000   Jul-23-05 01:11 AM   #372 
     - We are ALL...  demodonkey   Jul-27-05 03:23 AM   #377 
        - Maybe one thing we could do for Andy  troubleinwinter   Jul-27-05 10:03 PM   #378 
  - ~  merh   Jul-26-05 04:02 AM   #374 
  - Ditto!  cat_girl25   Jul-26-05 11:45 PM   #375 
  - kick  sfexpat2000   Jul-27-05 12:27 AM   #376 

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC