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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:08 PM
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43. Appendix 1 is brilliant and it's the crux of the issue!
Much more important than the exit polls!

Imagine trying to convince the MSM that it's all about the exit polls and then telling them to read Appendix 1. Which do you think they will be more likely to believe or report about? (But that's just me.)

For some reason I could only open and read the copy that Febble has on her geocities site. It should be the same, but since she's a known plagiarizer and all that, it could be bogus! :)

It has Bruce's name in the by-line though so I think it's the real thing, although not digitally signed. Thanks Febble! :)
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  -How do we have engaging, civilized debate around here? Melissa G  Jun-12-05 08:33 PM   #0 
  - Don't ask me.  Jim Sagle   Jun-12-05 08:37 PM   #1 
  - I think what you are asking for is a luxury  Frances   Jun-12-05 08:37 PM   #2 
  - Hi Frances, Well...a civilized debate about Election Fraud was what  Melissa G   Jun-12-05 08:52 PM   #4 
  - Oh, Man, That is the LAST Thing  ribofunk   Jun-12-05 10:25 PM   #8 
     - Ribofunk, i hope you can help improve attitude, However, It is  Melissa G   Jun-12-05 10:42 PM   #10 
        - Believe Me, I am Trying  ribofunk   Jun-12-05 11:26 PM   #11 
           - I thought that you and I had some good discussion about it. n/t  Time for change   Jun-13-05 09:05 PM   #40 
              - Yes, Time for Change,  ribofunk   Jun-13-05 11:26 PM   #46 
  - The issue of fair elections is the most bi-partisan issue possible.  Stevepol   Jun-16-05 08:21 AM   #72 
  - I think that  Jon_da_brockman   Jun-12-05 08:38 PM   #3 
  - I Would Love a Return to Civility  evilkumquat   Jun-12-05 08:59 PM   #5 
  - That's a very difficult question Melissa  Time for change   Jun-12-05 10:01 PM   #6 
  - Hi TFC, I guess I started this thread because I was frustrated  Melissa G   Jun-12-05 10:39 PM   #9 
  - Hi Evilkumquat! welcome to DU and the 2004 Election Discussion  Melissa G   Jun-12-05 10:08 PM   #7 
  - If you want to get engaged...  Bill Bored   Jun-13-05 12:09 AM   #12 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 04:47 AM   #14 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 05:36 AM   #15 
  - Hi BB! Good to hear your voice. I have trouble with the magnitude of 9/11  Melissa G   Jun-13-05 09:26 AM   #17 
  - Rules of the game  andym   Jun-13-05 01:15 AM   #13 
  - an important distinction  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-13-05 06:08 AM   #16 
     - OTOH, not quite...  TruthIsAll   Jun-13-05 09:54 AM   #18 
        - Glad you said that part TIA. The number of Folks who know this election  Melissa G   Jun-13-05 10:20 AM   #19 
        - True believer in fraud here  helderheid   Jun-13-05 10:25 AM   #20 
        - "True believer in fraud here"  kster   Jun-13-05 01:52 PM   #25 
        - Hi Helder heid! Heard you were doing good stuff this weekend to change  Melissa G   Jun-13-05 01:54 PM   #26 
           - thank you :)  helderheid   Jun-14-05 02:49 PM   #48 
        - but that's not what I meant by the terms!  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-13-05 10:35 AM   #21 
        - I don't think the status quo is intolerable. I'm pretty happy here.  Melissa G   Jun-13-05 01:58 PM   #27 
           - I have a dream  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-13-05 03:06 PM   #28 
           - The problem with your dream is the term bona fide participants...  Melissa G   Jun-13-05 04:05 PM   #30 
              - yes, bona fides are always the problem. n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-13-05 07:06 PM   #36 
           - by the way, we miscommunicated again...  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-16-05 10:42 AM   #75 
        - the term "true-believer" has a specific connotation  foo_bar   Jun-13-05 05:58 PM   #31 
        - I agree with both of you (grin) n/t  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-13-05 07:05 PM   #35 
        - Dual connotations for Skeptic and True Believer  andym   Jun-19-05 01:26 PM   #116 
           - Not so sure about the religious aspect--  mgr   Jun-20-05 11:31 AM   #120 
              - Hi Mike,..your reply is an example of a share a beer post....  Melissa G   Jun-20-05 08:43 PM   #124 
              - RE: "Not so sure about the religious aspect--" OFF-TOPIC  andym   Jun-20-05 10:07 PM   #125 
                 - Etymologically you are correct, but in current use  mgr   Jun-21-05 11:25 AM   #126 
                    - OFF-TOPIC Current Use of True Believer  andym   Jun-21-05 01:15 PM   #127 
                       - We could go on forever  mgr   Jun-21-05 01:40 PM   #128 
        - Call me true believer, call me moonbat, call me a coincidence theorist,  bleever   Jun-13-05 06:11 PM   #32 
        - Hey Bleever! Call me happy to hang with you while we make racket  Melissa G   Jun-13-05 09:05 PM   #39 
           - Like the Who's down in Whoville: "We are here, We are Here, WE ARE HERE!"  bleever   Jun-13-05 09:07 PM   #41 
              - Never Ever Give Up!  Melissa G   Jun-13-05 09:26 PM   #45 
        - True believer -front and center-  FogerRox   Jun-13-05 06:15 PM   #33 
           - Hey FogerRox ! sign me up! Congrats on Jersey! n/t  Melissa G   Jun-13-05 09:08 PM   #42 
              - just doing my job ma'am  FogerRox   Jun-14-05 01:07 PM   #47 
  - BTW, I still can't read Bruce O'Dell's paper!  Bill Bored   Jun-13-05 11:50 AM   #22 
  - I, for one, really enjoy your sense of humor  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-13-05 12:20 PM   #23 
  - I have version 6, it works fine  jkd   Jun-13-05 01:43 PM   #24 
  - Can get it at home and on my funky work computer  Melissa G   Jun-13-05 03:16 PM   #29 
  - Appendix 1 is brilliant and it's the crux of the issue!  Bill Bored   Jun-13-05 09:08 PM   #43 
  - If ya PM me an email, I can send you a .doc version. n/t  Chi   Jun-13-05 07:57 PM   #37 
     - Hiya Chi....  anaxarchos   Jun-14-05 11:23 PM   #53 
        - Everyone got covered in Febble  Chi   Jun-15-05 10:54 PM   #66 
           - Ha...  anaxarchos   Jun-16-05 11:44 AM   #77 
           - Hey, you can't say things like that ;)  tommcintyre   Jun-16-05 07:11 PM   #80 
           - Do three "cultists" on one Reply constitute a "civil disturbance"  autorank   Jun-16-05 09:34 PM   #82 
           - Chi, you are the most amazing writer! I so enjoy it when I  Melissa G   Jun-16-05 10:52 PM   #83 
           - One little misrepresentation  mgr   Jun-17-05 10:17 AM   #84 
           - Rewrite, Version 1.01  Chi   Jun-17-05 03:53 PM   #88 
              - And what would you know about that help Chi?  Melissa G   Jun-17-05 09:49 PM   #95 
              - Insert Scooby snicker here. (EG)  Chi   Jun-17-05 10:52 PM   #98 
              - I'll buy it.  mgr   Jun-20-05 11:04 AM   #119 
              - Alright... now, I need a link here.  anaxarchos   Jun-20-05 12:26 PM   #122 
           - I hope no "deliberately misleading"  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-20-05 11:56 AM   #121 
              - What used to be a rock solid backup to election fraud.....  Chi   Jun-21-05 02:12 PM   #129 
                 - There is a reason the Greeks gave their gods human foibles,  mgr   Jun-21-05 06:43 PM   #130 
                    - Are you sure you don't wanna PM me, like everyone else did.  Chi   Jun-22-05 10:43 PM   #131 
  - following the message board rules is a good start  Cocoa   Jun-13-05 06:35 PM   #34 
  - Why skeptics and true-believers?  anaxarchos   Jun-13-05 08:35 PM   #38 
  - Hi anaxarchos, I like my debate Spicy so I agree with you.  Melissa G   Jun-13-05 09:19 PM   #44 
  - Heated, passionate debate can be good  Time for change   Jun-14-05 04:32 PM   #49 
     - I think a change in policy may be in order.  mgr   Jun-14-05 04:41 PM   #50 
     - If posts get deleted because of ad hominem contents,  Internut   Jun-14-05 05:26 PM   #51 
        - That is one consideration--if rules applied evenly  mgr   Jun-15-05 12:59 PM   #57 
     - The distinction is meaningless...  anaxarchos   Jun-14-05 05:28 PM   #52 
        - Good analysis, I would add:  tommcintyre   Jun-15-05 01:35 AM   #55 
        - Your ignorance is forgiven since you've been away.  mgr   Jun-15-05 01:31 PM   #58 
           - Mgr, do you ever read what you write...  anaxarchos   Jun-15-05 09:45 PM   #63 
              - "stream of consciousness? " ROFL!  tommcintyre   Jun-15-05 10:31 PM   #64 
              - anaxarchos, We may not agree on some things but I really  Melissa G   Jun-15-05 11:05 PM   #67 
              - Profound thoughts from the School of Democracy. I'm even mellow.  autorank   Jun-16-05 01:43 AM   #71 
              - Let me rearrange your points  mgr   Jun-16-05 11:10 AM   #76 
                 - Why, mgr...  anaxarchos   Jun-16-05 02:02 PM   #78 
  - A SUMMARY: Yes, it's all about "framing" (spinning?), isn't it?  tommcintyre   Jun-15-05 01:20 AM   #54 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-15-05 06:45 PM   #59 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-15-05 06:52 PM   #60 
     - Yes.. unfortunately though, it's much more than Pathetic.  tommcintyre   Jun-15-05 06:57 PM   #61 
     - Ah yes, the innuendo tactic. n/t  mgr   Jun-15-05 06:58 PM   #62 
        - So you think that person used the "innuendo tactic"? Please explain.  tommcintyre   Jun-15-05 10:39 PM   #65 
           - Tommcintire, This thread is a thread for folks who want to be polite  Melissa G   Jun-15-05 11:10 PM   #68 
           - Melissa G, I think this demonstrates why we have impartial moderators here  tommcintyre   Jun-16-05 12:40 AM   #69 
           - Hi Tomm, I'm relatively new to public cyber life and it has been an  Melissa G   Jun-16-05 09:02 AM   #73 
              - Imagine you are going 90 mph down a dark, twisty road, and...  tommcintyre   Jun-16-05 08:13 PM   #81 
                 - Hi Tomm, you actually never answered my question...  Melissa G   Jun-17-05 12:24 PM   #86 
                    - Ahh... it wasn't really a "worldview"... was it?  tommcintyre   Jun-17-05 04:46 PM   #89 
                       - Glass illustrates our susceptibility to misleading vividness  foo_bar   Jun-17-05 05:12 PM   #90 
                       - Example of amplified minor point... and out of context  tommcintyre   Jun-17-05 06:15 PM   #92 
                          - I didn't actually make a point  foo_bar   Jun-17-05 06:18 PM   #93 
                             - Actually, his "misleading vividness" was a " wake-up call  tommcintyre   Jun-17-05 07:00 PM   #94 
                                - I saw it on DVD a year ago  foo_bar   Jun-18-05 04:19 AM   #101 
                                   - Did they all work as hard to manipulatively build loyalties?  tommcintyre   Jun-18-05 06:47 AM   #102 
                                      - I guess I can see where you're coming from  foo_bar   Jun-18-05 07:49 AM   #103 
                                         - THAT, is why I keep saying to watch again with the commentary on.  tommcintyre   Jun-18-05 08:12 AM   #104 
                                            - I'll have to re-rent it  foo_bar   Jun-18-05 09:05 AM   #105 
                       - So the short version would be..  Melissa G   Jun-17-05 10:31 PM   #97 
                          - Hey, is this the "nice" thread, or the "assumptive" one?  tommcintyre   Jun-18-05 12:27 AM   #99 
           - Melissa, what about people who call others "paranoid" and "unbalanced"  autorank   Jun-16-05 01:33 AM   #70 
           - 2nd Time: Melissa G, What about people who call other users "unbalanced"  autorank   Jun-17-05 05:50 PM   #91 
              - Autorank, I was interested in discussing civil, engaging,debate  Melissa G   Jun-17-05 10:24 PM   #96 
                 - My personal concerns are not relevant to this forum. You don't mind  autorank   Jun-18-05 01:05 AM   #100 
                    - I will happily cede all enforcement crowns to you auto...  Melissa G   Jun-18-05 09:15 AM   #106 
                    - Weak, this is getting old.  autorank   Jun-18-05 12:29 PM   #108 
                    - With due respect, you are misquoting me on post # 6  Time for change   Jun-18-05 10:00 AM   #107 
                    - I quoted you directly, minus the irrelevant material in the parens.  autorank   Jun-18-05 12:30 PM   #109 
                       - Really?  Time for change   Jun-18-05 05:36 PM   #110 
                          - Not "anyone," you specifically. You called an unspecified number of DUers  autorank   Jun-19-05 12:17 AM   #113 
                             - To answer your questions  Time for change   Jun-19-05 07:39 AM   #114 
                                - I rearely interact w/you. "Repeatedly" is a false charge. No more contact  autorank   Jun-19-05 11:45 AM   #115 
                    - I think you are reading far more into the post that you should  mgr   Jun-20-05 12:55 PM   #123 
           - No, you do.  mgr   Jun-16-05 09:36 AM   #74 
              - Thanks for the clarification... quite judgmental/assumptive though  tommcintyre   Jun-16-05 06:50 PM   #79 
                 - Sorry friend, but you may wish to consult your post upthread.  mgr   Jun-17-05 10:31 AM   #85 
                    - Way too assumptive on your part  tommcintyre   Jun-17-05 03:43 PM   #87 
  - "The Sorrow and the Pity"  autorank   Jun-15-05 02:17 AM   #56 
  - freedom not guaranteed.  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jun-18-05 11:48 PM   #111 
  - maybe more people should learn some manners  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jun-19-05 12:04 AM   #112 
  - And the other question is how to reach the others  Wow   Jun-19-05 03:19 PM   #117 
     - Exactly Wow, find a new person to talk to everyday!  Melissa G   Jun-19-05 08:43 PM   #118 

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