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Thu Jun-16-05 02:06 PM
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And don't combine his concerns with how the election was stolen with mine. I think that our interactions only extend to a few linked posts. Our interests may intersect, but we have never PM'ed each other.
You are arguing by exhortation. Explain how my position is bunk, refute me; don't consider it an argument by adumbrating to all the specious work you have done.
Take a look at the database, where did I get the numbers for Palm Beach, Mahoning? What are the total machine malfunction records for these places? Is it that they were intentionally set to flip votes, or did they malfunction due to incompetence on the part of the programmer or design engineer, but that since the BOE was unable to address widespread failures or slowdowns, lines grew and people walked away without voting? That constitutes suppression, and if these problems were known and not remedied, approximates fraud. In Ohio and Florida it appears where the dems are, and is more than sufficient an explanation for how Kerry won but did not--it might even capture the precious popular vote frame that you hunger after.
As a software designer you seem unwilling to make the simple assumption that those in charge of maintaining the touchscreen equipment may have been incompetent. Why is that (I am not insinuating anything that you may have been a programmer for Diebold or ESS--but am asking in the broader context of what may be your own bias as you are a practitioner in the profession)?
I have already stated before that working as a computer operator and part time programmer, that many programmers that I worked around would make collossal coding errors, that I would spend hours patching. Its the same in all professional fields, the competence is malleable.
Mike
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| -Prob (86 of 88 screens switch K to B): 1 in 79,010,724,999,066,700,000,000 |
TruthIsAll |
May-15-05 08:32 AM |
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So many ways of expressing fraud. |
Old and In the Way |
May-15-05 09:13 AM |
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LINK TO EIRS |
TruthIsAll |
May-18-05 11:46 PM |
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Hey back off! |
Botany |
May-15-05 09:15 AM |
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Same as the unexplicable migration of votes, Kerry to Bush, in Snohomish.. |
understandinglife |
May-15-05 05:02 PM |
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Link please! Hi Botany! n/t |
Melissa G |
Jun-16-05 12:33 AM |
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With respect, |
Chomp |
May-15-05 09:19 AM |
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Yes, but the exit polls provide overwhelming prima facie evidence... |
TruthIsAll |
May-15-05 09:27 AM |
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nominated |
helderheid |
May-15-05 10:07 AM |
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ditto! |
autorank |
May-15-05 03:31 PM |
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BIG BANG Correction: The UNIVERSE is 14 BILLION years old |
TruthIsAll |
May-15-05 10:35 AM |
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From the National Election Incident Database |
TruthIsAll |
May-15-05 11:16 AM |
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Thanks, TIA n/t |
vince3 |
May-15-05 04:08 PM |
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79 billion trillion = ONE in 79 SEXTILLION = 79*10^21 |
TruthIsAll |
May-15-05 03:23 PM |
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But. . .but . . .but. . . |
stellanoir |
May-15-05 06:04 PM |
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Probability & Statistics should be a high school requirement. n/t |
GreenPoet64 |
May-15-05 05:11 PM |
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That's an interesting comparison to illustrate the probability. (n/t) |
ROH |
May-15-05 05:19 PM |
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Your posts are always a breath of fresh air... |
alittlelark |
May-15-05 06:02 PM |
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*Obviously you haven't considered the rBrei theory. |
Peace Patriot |
May-15-05 06:29 PM |
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rBrei - that's coming, no doubt. Or eDr -exuberant Dem recorders |
TruthIsAll |
May-15-05 06:54 PM |
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Kick. (Warning: caps lock about to be turned on.) |
bleever |
May-15-05 09:11 PM |
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there are actually more rumblings about election fraud then in November |
FLDem5 |
May-15-05 09:22 PM |
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I second the medal for TIA! |
kimchi |
May-15-05 10:05 PM |
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Ditto! I'm constantly amazed by his endless energy, and PROOF of E.F. |
zann725 |
Jun-26-05 02:37 AM |
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2-4-6-8; EIGHTY-SIX OF EIGHTY-EIGHT |
TruthIsAll |
May-18-05 08:34 AM |
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I Worked Early Vote And Personally Observed The ES&S |
mhr |
May-18-05 09:26 AM |
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Most likely it was the central tabulator... |
LightningFlash |
May-18-05 12:36 PM |
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wrong connection |
mgr |
Jun-14-05 01:12 PM |
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Central tabulators and precinct tabulators the culprits in OPTISCAN |
Carolab |
Jun-15-05 12:50 AM |
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May want to look at this recent thread |
mgr |
Jun-15-05 04:50 PM |
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And you might want to watch Chuck Herrin's presentation |
Carolab |
Jun-15-05 04:58 PM |
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Already had several months ago |
mgr |
Jun-15-05 07:10 PM |
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Bev was talking about remote hacks. There are other means. |
Carolab |
Jun-15-05 10:34 PM |
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Texas, California, Illinois in 1960 |
mgr |
Jun-17-05 12:45 PM |
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TIA, for what it's worth, I think focusing more on issues like this |
smartvoter |
May-18-05 12:18 PM |
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Right, but we need more than a 1/(79*10^21) probability... |
TruthIsAll |
May-18-05 07:13 PM |
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kick.nt |
kster |
May-19-05 01:45 PM |
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Kick it : Time for Change |
TruthIsAll |
May-20-05 11:03 AM |
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12:1 does not compute to 86:88. n/t |
mgr |
Jun-14-05 01:17 PM |
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Remember this? |
TruthIsAll |
Jun-10-05 04:12 AM |
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Go ahead, reconcile it. |
TruthIsAll |
Jun-13-05 07:43 PM |
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I thought the numbers were |
mgr |
Jun-14-05 01:13 PM |
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I believe my numbers are correct. But if it's 87 of 94, the probability is |
TruthIsAll |
Jun-14-05 01:34 PM |
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mgr, I amend my previous reply (87-94); Mea culpa. You said 88 of 95... |
TruthIsAll |
Jun-14-05 03:52 PM |
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Not interested in the odds, just the numbers be right. n/t |
mgr |
Jun-14-05 04:38 PM |
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Of course you're not interested in the odds. Because you can't refute them |
TruthIsAll |
Jun-14-05 09:51 PM |
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I can refute them |
foo_bar |
Jun-14-05 10:28 PM |
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I don't think you're allowed to mention elementary |
Internut |
Jun-14-05 10:33 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-14-05 11:38 PM |
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if you can't discuss statistics 101 without ad hominem attacks |
foo_bar |
Jun-15-05 12:08 AM |
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When will you respond specifically to my three points? |
TruthIsAll |
Jun-15-05 08:32 AM |
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sorry for the flip response |
foo_bar |
Jun-15-05 02:20 PM |
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That is a helluva lot of doubletalk. |
TruthIsAll |
Jun-15-05 02:58 PM |
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a brief glossary |
foo_bar |
Jun-15-05 03:43 PM |
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but... but... what about Bigfoot? n/t |
OnTheOtherHand |
Jun-15-05 04:06 PM |
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I saw him last month |
mgr |
Jun-15-05 04:15 PM |
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Seventeen from Mahoning County |
mgr |
Jun-15-05 03:29 PM |
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Ten From Palm Beach |
mgr |
Jun-15-05 03:36 PM |
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But keep kicking the thread....we like that |
TruthIsAll |
Jun-14-05 11:41 PM |
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Didn't know you were royalty. n/t |
mgr |
Jun-15-05 03:56 PM |
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OK I think I will.............Kick.nt |
kster |
Jun-15-05 11:38 PM |
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I'm not interested in the less than meaningful analysis |
mgr |
Jun-15-05 03:10 PM |
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You have just proven to DU why this "reconciliation" project is bogus |
TruthIsAll |
Jun-16-05 06:37 AM |
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would you like to audit the project? |
foo_bar |
Jun-16-05 08:15 AM |
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Do Foo Bar a favor |
mgr |
Jun-16-05 02:06 PM |
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I don't believe my arguments relied on ad hominens. |
mgr |
Jun-16-05 02:27 PM |
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A gracious and wise kick. |
LightningFlash |
Jun-25-05 04:55 AM |
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kick.nt |
kster |
Jun-26-05 02:30 AM |
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KICK so the DNC can see! |
autorank |
Jun-26-05 11:55 AM |
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Help me out here |
Maraya1969 |
Aug-12-05 11:07 PM |
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Hope this clears it up. |
TruthIsAll |
Aug-13-05 06:05 AM |
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Ok you are talking Ohio when you speak of the 88 voting machines? |
Maraya1969 |
Aug-13-05 01:04 PM |
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You are totally missing it.. |
TruthIsAll |
Aug-13-05 02:28 PM |
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kick - In tribute to his tremendous contributions - WHY??? :( n/t |
tommcintyre |
Aug-25-05 07:34 PM |
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Kicking for truth, justice, and TIA's invaluable work. |
bleever |
Aug-25-05 10:31 PM |
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