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Tue May-17-05 08:41 PM
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| -ESI: Can Exit Polls Be Used to Monitor Elections? |
eomer |
May-11-05 07:08 AM |
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Exactly what I have been thinking, but polls at voting exits.... |
whistle |
May-11-05 07:15 AM |
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It only works |
hobbit709 |
May-11-05 07:49 AM |
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rBr fallacy: assume that which you are trying to prove. |
eomer |
May-11-05 07:59 AM |
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You are absolutely right |
Febble |
May-12-05 11:10 AM |
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And I agree absolutely |
eomer |
May-12-05 11:19 AM |
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Yes, I do think the discrepancy justifies an investigation |
Febble |
May-12-05 04:24 PM |
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I disagree with you on one thing!.... |
Sancho |
May-12-05 04:51 PM |
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I didn't say it was convincing |
Febble |
May-12-05 05:22 PM |
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Postal voting was not the only source of fraud. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
May-12-05 05:23 PM |
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Good point. |
eomer |
May-13-05 06:29 AM |
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Fallacy: exit poll inaccuracy caused the back and forth calls in 2000 |
eomer |
May-11-05 01:51 PM |
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I'm really confused by this whole ESI exit poll thing. |
eomer |
May-12-05 06:50 AM |
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It is a well known fact in pollster "community" |
Sawyer |
May-12-05 07:50 AM |
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Yes, they do state that as one of their goals... |
eomer |
May-12-05 08:09 AM |
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It does NOT say that |
Boredtodeath |
May-12-05 08:12 AM |
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I believe it does. |
eomer |
May-12-05 08:46 AM |
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My agenda is very simple |
Boredtodeath |
May-12-05 09:16 AM |
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I would characterize the following posts as "guns blazing": |
eomer |
May-12-05 09:47 AM |
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Such a shame |
Boredtodeath |
May-12-05 09:53 AM |
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Well, I'm not sure where that comes from... |
eomer |
May-12-05 10:10 AM |
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I was here when stevenstevensteven came around. |
Chi |
May-12-05 05:00 PM |
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I'm not attacking ESI..but I think that .. |
Sancho |
May-12-05 05:05 PM |
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Regarding the funding of ESI. |
eomer |
May-14-05 10:24 AM |
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Here's an even more direct statement that DOES say that: |
eomer |
May-12-05 10:34 AM |
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Exactly what we need to do for 2006 |
Kip Humphrey |
May-13-05 06:59 AM |
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Agree in theory... |
eomer |
May-13-05 07:36 AM |
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Read Peace Patriot's posts about rRrvK |
Filius Nullius |
May-14-05 10:21 PM |
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speak for yourself my friend |
garybeck |
May-14-05 02:25 AM |
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True, FINAL exit polls are not fraud detectors, they're fraud-enhancers. |
TruthIsAll |
May-12-05 05:14 PM |
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eomer, you are spot-on. You are as knowledgable as anyone on DU. |
TruthIsAll |
May-13-05 10:10 PM |
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"Debunkers," "Nay-Sayers. Thanks for coming together on one place |
autorank |
May-13-05 08:59 PM |
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Disagreement does not make us republicans |
Boredtodeath |
May-13-05 09:40 PM |
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Interesting you use the word "Repiublicans." I didn't. |
autorank |
May-13-05 10:04 PM |
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For some reason you think that |
Sawyer |
May-13-05 10:09 PM |
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You emulate what you deny! |
autorank |
May-13-05 10:59 PM |
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But Prozac would not have been |
Febble |
May-14-05 11:26 AM |
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Prozac or anyother psychotropic drug relies on clinical trials. |
autorank |
May-14-05 02:06 PM |
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And I agree |
Febble |
May-14-05 05:01 PM |
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Question. |
Carolab |
May-18-05 02:54 AM |
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xxxDelete |
Filius Nullius |
May-14-05 10:10 PM |
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This basically sums it up it seems. |
LightningFlash |
May-18-05 02:55 AM |
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grrrrrrrrrrrrr |
helderheid |
May-13-05 11:03 PM |
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Bears Repeating |
autorank |
May-14-05 02:02 AM |
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Ukraine - |
Sawyer |
May-14-05 04:37 PM |
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Ensuivant Moi, Monsieur? |
autorank |
May-14-05 09:51 PM |
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All those links do not contradict |
Sawyer |
May-14-05 09:59 PM |
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It's the Oy Vey Show |
autorank |
May-14-05 10:12 PM |
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As I pointed out, the exit polls in the second |
Sawyer |
May-14-05 10:20 PM |
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You didn't take my advice. What a pity! |
autorank |
May-14-05 10:29 PM |
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Just like TIA - you evade questions |
Sawyer |
May-14-05 10:32 PM |
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I fully embrace the comparison. Bouy, bouy!!! |
autorank |
May-14-05 10:40 PM |
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This post makes me extremely angry. |
autorank |
May-14-05 09:40 AM |
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Autorank my friend, I think you are confused, eomer is not |
Melissa G |
May-14-05 01:06 PM |
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Thanks Melissa and that is right, I am not attacking garybeck |
eomer |
May-14-05 02:40 PM |
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eomer, I misread you message, my appologies! |
autorank |
May-14-05 06:11 PM |
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Thanks but no need to apologize. |
eomer |
May-14-05 06:38 PM |
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No need to appologize! I need to GOVEL, My bery bery BAD! |
autorank |
May-14-05 07:02 PM |
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Read the NM Exit Poll Report |
Bill Bored |
May-14-05 06:48 PM |
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Votewatch/ESI confuses me. How can they separate product from |
autorank |
May-14-05 10:38 PM |
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They did do an exit poll |
Bill Bored |
May-14-05 10:59 PM |
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Damn, this stuff get's deep, perhaps Byzantine! |
autorank |
May-14-05 11:04 PM |
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I thought 2004 polls were most sophisticated ever. What happened? |
Filius Nullius |
May-14-05 10:14 PM |
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Filius (if I may be informal), I vote for "stupid pills." |
autorank |
May-14-05 11:06 PM |
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from ESI |
stevenstevensteven |
May-17-05 10:35 AM |
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Steven, here are my questions regarding this report. |
eomer |
May-17-05 02:43 PM |
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Actually the NEP NM Exit Poll was within the MOE. |
Bill Bored |
May-18-05 01:58 AM |
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Hey Bill, |
eomer |
May-18-05 05:58 AM |
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Have you looked at all their papers on NM? |
Bill Bored |
May-18-05 04:57 PM |
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Bill, I agree totally about the definition of random |
eomer |
May-19-05 09:22 AM |
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Well they SHOULD be willing to discuss the meaning of the term RANDOM |
Bill Bored |
May-19-05 11:42 AM |
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When you say the rest of the allegations are ad hominem, |
eomer |
May-19-05 11:52 AM |
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No not those. |
Bill Bored |
May-19-05 12:53 PM |
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Also undervotes could have swung it |
Febble |
May-19-05 09:26 AM |
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Thank you Febble |
Bill Bored |
May-19-05 12:04 PM |
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..kick |
Chi |
May-17-05 08:41 PM |
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...kick |
Chi |
May-19-05 08:54 AM |
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