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stevenstevensteven Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 10:35 AM
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62. from ESI
First, I only learned of this new thread in the last couple of days. I had agreed to return to the earlier thread to answer questions, which I have done. I did not know of this thread and therefore was unable to respond to questions.

Second, there are some good and substantive questions about our research being asked in this thread. I urge the posters to collect their thoughts and to draft a letter to ESI and we will do our best to answer your questions.

Thanks again,

Steven Hertzberg
Election Science Institute
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  -ESI: Can Exit Polls Be Used to Monitor Elections? eomer  May-11-05 07:08 AM   #0 
  - Exactly what I have been thinking, but polls at voting exits....  whistle   May-11-05 07:15 AM   #1 
  - It only works  hobbit709   May-11-05 07:49 AM   #2 
  - rBr fallacy: assume that which you are trying to prove.  eomer   May-11-05 07:59 AM   #3 
  - You are absolutely right  Febble   May-12-05 11:10 AM   #15 
     - And I agree absolutely  eomer   May-12-05 11:19 AM   #16 
     - Yes, I do think the discrepancy justifies an investigation  Febble   May-12-05 04:24 PM   #17 
        - I disagree with you on one thing!....  Sancho   May-12-05 04:51 PM   #18 
           - I didn't say it was convincing  Febble   May-12-05 05:22 PM   #22 
     - Postal voting was not the only source of fraud.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   May-12-05 05:23 PM   #23 
        - Good point.  eomer   May-13-05 06:29 AM   #24 
  - Fallacy: exit poll inaccuracy caused the back and forth calls in 2000  eomer   May-11-05 01:51 PM   #4 
  - I'm really confused by this whole ESI exit poll thing.  eomer   May-12-05 06:50 AM   #5 
  - It is a well known fact in pollster "community"  Sawyer   May-12-05 07:50 AM   #6 
  - Yes, they do state that as one of their goals...  eomer   May-12-05 08:09 AM   #7 
  - It does NOT say that  Boredtodeath   May-12-05 08:12 AM   #8 
     - I believe it does.  eomer   May-12-05 08:46 AM   #9 
     - My agenda is very simple  Boredtodeath   May-12-05 09:16 AM   #10 
        - I would characterize the following posts as "guns blazing":  eomer   May-12-05 09:47 AM   #11 
           - Such a shame  Boredtodeath   May-12-05 09:53 AM   #12 
              - Well, I'm not sure where that comes from...  eomer   May-12-05 10:10 AM   #13 
              - I was here when stevenstevensteven came around.  Chi   May-12-05 05:00 PM   #19 
              - I'm not attacking ESI..but I think that ..  Sancho   May-12-05 05:05 PM   #20 
                 - Regarding the funding of ESI.  eomer   May-14-05 10:24 AM   #37 
     - Here's an even more direct statement that DOES say that:  eomer   May-12-05 10:34 AM   #14 
     - Exactly what we need to do for 2006  Kip Humphrey   May-13-05 06:59 AM   #25 
        - Agree in theory...  eomer   May-13-05 07:36 AM   #26 
           - Read Peace Patriot's posts about rRrvK  Filius Nullius   May-14-05 10:21 PM   #54 
     - speak for yourself my friend  garybeck   May-14-05 02:25 AM   #35 
  - True, FINAL exit polls are not fraud detectors, they're fraud-enhancers.  TruthIsAll   May-12-05 05:14 PM   #21 
  - eomer, you are spot-on. You are as knowledgable as anyone on DU.  TruthIsAll   May-13-05 10:10 PM   #31 
  - "Debunkers," "Nay-Sayers. Thanks for coming together on one place  autorank   May-13-05 08:59 PM   #27 
  - Disagreement does not make us republicans  Boredtodeath   May-13-05 09:40 PM   #28 
  - Interesting you use the word "Repiublicans." I didn't.  autorank   May-13-05 10:04 PM   #29 
     - For some reason you think that  Sawyer   May-13-05 10:09 PM   #30 
        - You emulate what you deny!  autorank   May-13-05 10:59 PM   #32 
  - But Prozac would not have been  Febble   May-14-05 11:26 AM   #38 
  - Prozac or anyother psychotropic drug relies on clinical trials.  autorank   May-14-05 02:06 PM   #40 
  - And I agree  Febble   May-14-05 05:01 PM   #43 
     - Question.  Carolab   May-18-05 02:54 AM   #66 
  - xxxDelete  Filius Nullius   May-14-05 10:10 PM   #50 
  - This basically sums it up it seems.  LightningFlash   May-18-05 02:55 AM   #67 
  - grrrrrrrrrrrrr  helderheid   May-13-05 11:03 PM   #33 
  - Bears Repeating  autorank   May-14-05 02:02 AM   #34 
     - Ukraine -  Sawyer   May-14-05 04:37 PM   #42 
        - Ensuivant Moi, Monsieur?  autorank   May-14-05 09:51 PM   #48 
           - All those links do not contradict  Sawyer   May-14-05 09:59 PM   #49 
              - It's the Oy Vey Show  autorank   May-14-05 10:12 PM   #51 
                 - As I pointed out, the exit polls in the second  Sawyer   May-14-05 10:20 PM   #53 
                 - You didn't take my advice. What a pity!  autorank   May-14-05 10:29 PM   #55 
                    - Just like TIA - you evade questions  Sawyer   May-14-05 10:32 PM   #56 
                       - I fully embrace the comparison. Bouy, bouy!!!  autorank   May-14-05 10:40 PM   #58 
  - This post makes me extremely angry.  autorank   May-14-05 09:40 AM   #36 
  - Autorank my friend, I think you are confused, eomer is not  Melissa G   May-14-05 01:06 PM   #39 
     - Thanks Melissa and that is right, I am not attacking garybeck  eomer   May-14-05 02:40 PM   #41 
        - eomer, I misread you message, my appologies!  autorank   May-14-05 06:11 PM   #44 
           - Thanks but no need to apologize.  eomer   May-14-05 06:38 PM   #45 
              - No need to appologize! I need to GOVEL, My bery bery BAD!  autorank   May-14-05 07:02 PM   #47 
  - Read the NM Exit Poll Report  Bill Bored   May-14-05 06:48 PM   #46 
  - Votewatch/ESI confuses me. How can they separate product from  autorank   May-14-05 10:38 PM   #57 
     - They did do an exit poll  Bill Bored   May-14-05 10:59 PM   #59 
        - Damn, this stuff get's deep, perhaps Byzantine!  autorank   May-14-05 11:04 PM   #60 
  - I thought 2004 polls were most sophisticated ever. What happened?  Filius Nullius   May-14-05 10:14 PM   #52 
  - Filius (if I may be informal), I vote for "stupid pills."  autorank   May-14-05 11:06 PM   #61 
  - from ESI  stevenstevensteven   May-17-05 10:35 AM   #62 
  - Steven, here are my questions regarding this report.  eomer   May-17-05 02:43 PM   #63 
     - Actually the NEP NM Exit Poll was within the MOE.  Bill Bored   May-18-05 01:58 AM   #65 
        - Hey Bill,  eomer   May-18-05 05:58 AM   #68 
        - Have you looked at all their papers on NM?  Bill Bored   May-18-05 04:57 PM   #69 
           - Bill, I agree totally about the definition of random  eomer   May-19-05 09:22 AM   #71 
              - Well they SHOULD be willing to discuss the meaning of the term RANDOM  Bill Bored   May-19-05 11:42 AM   #73 
                 - When you say the rest of the allegations are ad hominem,  eomer   May-19-05 11:52 AM   #74 
                    - No not those.  Bill Bored   May-19-05 12:53 PM   #76 
        - Also undervotes could have swung it  Febble   May-19-05 09:26 AM   #72 
           - Thank you Febble  Bill Bored   May-19-05 12:04 PM   #75 
  - ..kick  Chi   May-17-05 08:41 PM   #64 
  - ...kick  Chi   May-19-05 08:54 AM   #70 
 

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