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HELDERHEID, this is for you! Quick summary of 2004 Election Fraud!
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Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 04:41 AM by Peace Patriot
I caught up with your discussion with emlev in the forum about Jon Stewart two hours later, and I'm posting this separately to make sure you see it.

Here's how I would start--and everything I would say:

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Gore 2000 repeat voters + huge Democratic new voter registration in 2004 (Dems 57%, Repubs 41%) + huge jump of Nader voters to Kerry = a 4 to 8 million vote margin for Kerry that inexplicably disappeared on election day. (--2nd report by Dr. Steven Freeman.)

This margin was virtually unsurmountable--by Bush--as every other statistic shows:

Kerry won both the national and state exit polls by a margin of 3%. (USCountvotes report, by 9 Ph.D.'s, and all other expert reports.)

Impossible skew to Bush in the official results vs. the exit polls, unaccountable by any conceivable bias in the exit polls--conservative odds of 1 in 10 million against the Bush win (confirmed by numerous Ph.D.'s and expert statisticians putting their reputations on the line to say so publicly in peer reviewed reports, including the USCountvotes report).

The UCCountvotes report, by 9 Ph.D.'s at leading universities, also indicates that Kerry's margin was even larger than the exit poll 3%, since the exit polls were actually skewed to favor Bush (the exact opposite of what was reported in the news!).

Skew to Bush in electronic voting vs. other methods in No. Carolina (--Democratic Underground analysis)

Skew to Bush in electronic voting vs. other methods in FLA. (--UC Berkeley statistics dept, study headed by Dr. Michael Haut)

Skew to Bush in electronic voting vs. other methods at the precinct level (USCountvotes report, by 9 Ph.D.'s).

Secret source code in the central electronic vote tabulators, held as proprietary info. by BushCon companies (two companies, Diebold and ES&S, one run by Bush-Cheney campaign chair in Ohio, the other by a billionaire rightwing nut), no paper trail, and no recount or audit possible, in a third of the voting machines in the country--all conditions for fraud insisted upon by Republican politicians and electronic voting machine company salesmen.

Electronic voting machines proven to be extremely insecure, unreliable and hackable.

All reported vote suppression incidents were perpetrated by Republican election officials and Republican operatives against Democratic voters, mostly minorities. One investigator estimates that 2 million minority votes were suppressed.

57,000 incidents of machine malfunction or vote suppression lodged with Congress--virtually all favoring Bush and hurting Kerry.

Many reports of touchscreen electronic voting machines changing Kerry votes to Bush votes, and none the other way around--huge odds against this.

The intense BushCon efforts to skew the election in such baldfaced, illegal ways in Ohio, Florida and several other key states indicates their fear of Kerry's big new voter registration advantage and the enthusiasm of the grass roots campaign. It was looking like a Kerry blowout--so they had to use every fraud plan they had in place.

Bush's approval ratings prior to the election were dismal - hovering around 50% - not possible for a sitting president to be elected with such low approval ratings, according to highly reputed pollster, Zogby.

Bush's approval ratings today remain dismal - hovering around 50% - dipping to 48% on his Inauguration Day!--an unprecedented "vote of no confidence" by the American people in a recently "re-elected" president.

Americans greatly disapprove of Bush's major policies (nearly 60% disapprove of the Iraq war, now, today--and 63% disapprove of torture under any circumstances).

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And here is the documentation. Note: In some DU postings of urls, DU cuts off the end of the url, so that you must click to the original to obtain the full url. This list attempts to overcome that program and give you the full url. In order to do so, I've put a space after the point at which DU cuts it off and have added the missing end part. In cutting and pasting, remove the ". . . " and the space, in order to get the full url. (And note, on the Baiman url, only one number was cut off the end, the number 7. Same is true of the Johns Hopkins url, only the number 5 is cut off.)

Exit poll analysis: Astronomical odds against the Bush win.

Dr. Steven Freeman: http://www.appliedresearch.us/sf/epdiscrep.htm

Dr. Ron Baiman: http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/99 ... 7

Dr. Webb Mealy: http://www.selftest.net/redshift.htm

Jonathan Simon:http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00142.htm

Nine Ph.D's from leading universities call for investigation of 2004 Election:
http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/USCountVotes_Re_ ... Mitofsky-Edison.pdf

Florida: 130,000 to 230,000 phantom votes for Bush--paper vs. electronic voting:
Dr. Michael Haut & UC Berkeley statistics team: http://ucdata.berkeley.edu

Democratic Underground (ignatzmouse):
(North Carolina: absentee ballot vs. electronic, inexplicable 9% edge to Bush in electronic:)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... hp?az=view_all&address=203x45003

Democratic Underground (TruthIsAl)l: "To believe Bush won, you have to believe…"

Part 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... p?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1316010

Part 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... p?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1358806

Part 3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... hp?az=view_all&address=203x197878

Democratic Underground (TruthIsAll): The Time Zone Discrepancy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... hp?az=view_all&address=203x318693

Johns Hopkins report on insecurity of electronic voting:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00196.htm# ... 5

Easy demo of the how insecure voting machines are:
http://www.chuckherrin.com/hackthevote.htm

"Myth Breakers: Facts About Electronic Elections" (2nd edition): www.votersunite.org

Ohio vote suppression: http://www.bpac.info

Documentation of widespread machine fraud and dirty tricks in over 20 states:
http://www.flcv.com/ussumall.html

Greg Palast, "Kerry Won": http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won.php

In progress compilations of various articles and materials on 2004 Election Fraud:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... hp?az=view_all&address=203x311105

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ... hp?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=304579

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Note: The credentials of the Ph.D.'s who have studied this matter and have spoken out publicly is extraordinarily impressive. All of the Dr.'s mentioned above are tops in their field, at leading universities. In addition, here is the list of Ph.D.'s who did the USCountvotes report:

Josh Mitteldorf, Ph.D. - Temple University Statistics Department
Steven F. Freeman, PhD - Center for Organizational Dynamics, University of Pennsylvania
Brian Joiner, PhD - Prof. of Statistics and Director of Statistical Consulting (ret), University of Wisconsin
Frank Stenger, PhD in mathematics - School of Computing, University of Utah
Richard G. Sheehan, PhD - Department of Finance, University of Notre Dame
Elizabeth Liddle, MA - (UK) PhD candidate at the University of Nottingham
Paul F. Velleman, Ph.D. - Department of Statistical Sciences, Cornell University
Victoria Lovegren, Ph.D. - Department of Mathematics, Case Western Reserve University
Campbell B. Read, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, Department of Statistical Science, Southern Methodist University
Kathy Dopp, MS in mathematics - USCountVotes, President
Also Peer Reviewed by USCountVotes’ core group of statisticians and independent reviewers.

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One last bit of info. Jonathan Simon, one of the leading analysts of the exit polls will be speaking at the Oakland, CA, ELECTION RIGGING TEACH-IN, Sat. Feb. 26. Here's the url for that event:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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  HELDERHEID, this is for you! Quick summary of 2004 Election Fraud! Peace Patriot  Feb-21-05 04:32 AM   #0 
   THANK YOU  helderheid   Feb-21-05 05:09 AM   #1 
   Amazing Post! Kudos!  corbett   Feb-21-05 07:50 AM   #2 
   NOTE TO ALL VISITORS TO THIS DISCUSSION: url problem solved...plus...  Peace Patriot   Feb-22-05 06:01 PM   #66 
   Great analysis, you might want to add the work of Dr Richard Hayes Phillip  mod mom   Feb-21-05 08:00 AM   #3 
   Kick  WeHoldTheseTruths   Feb-21-05 09:58 AM   #4 
   MSM isn't incompetent.  Jackpine Radical   Feb-21-05 12:22 PM   #9 
   Not only is MSM complicit and has been for years, Mitofsky is too. See  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 04:02 PM   #26 
   You MUST check this out:  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 04:01 PM   #25 
   Nominated - everybody needs a clear view of the problem. Good work! nt  glitch   Feb-21-05 10:49 AM   #5 
   me too  helderheid   Feb-21-05 10:53 AM   #6 
   Totally Amazing!  MellowOne   Feb-21-05 11:28 AM   #7 
   The exit polls were CHANGED by the TV networks!  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 02:49 PM   #19 
   I just sent her a followup with this  helderheid   Feb-21-05 02:55 PM   #20 
   Mitofsky AND the media are complicit and have been for years. See this:  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 04:03 PM   #28 
   Gotta see this. It's much bigger than even we thought:  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 04:03 PM   #27 
   I'm writing her now but...  helderheid   Feb-21-05 11:34 AM   #8 
   I'll check out these urls right now, and see what the problem is. n/t  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 01:29 PM   #12 
   Several of them have an extra "h" in them (my error!), thus...  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 01:42 PM   #14 
      The problem urls WITHOUT the extra "h" problem...  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 02:14 PM   #16 
         I just noticed two more urls with the extra "h" problem. They are...  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 03:33 PM   #22 
         DU always cuts off long links so you have to go to the source, copy and  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 04:05 PM   #29 
   Nice work--a couple of questions and a comment  emlev   Feb-21-05 12:31 PM   #10 
   Hi, emlev! Greg Palast is the source of the first (article is cited in...  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 01:28 PM   #11 
      Thanks for all that. What do you see as the "right remedies?"  emlev   Feb-21-05 01:35 PM   #13 
      emlev, here's a cite for the 57,000 complaints to Congress...  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 02:30 PM   #17 
      The right remedies?  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 03:22 PM   #21 
         Holt bill bans financial and political conflicts of interest between  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 04:13 PM   #32 
      Great thoughts. I have questioned the same thing and someone on DU  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 04:11 PM   #31 
   Clickable and Copyable Version of Documentation  WeHoldTheseTruths   Feb-21-05 02:03 PM   #15 
   Thank you thank you  helderheid   Feb-21-05 02:41 PM   #18 
   A single URL for this whole page is at following link:  berniew1   Feb-21-05 08:21 PM   #49 
   SHE RESPONDED!!!!  helderheid   Feb-21-05 03:46 PM   #23 
   /Wonderful! Good work, guys! I would add Chuck Herrin, in particular  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 03:57 PM   #24 
      Chuck Herrin's on my list, above...  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 05:36 PM   #38 
         Oops! Didn't notice the reference to Herrin.  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 06:08 PM   #40 
   Nice work! How about Clint Curtis?  tommcintyre   Feb-21-05 04:07 PM   #30 
   Have you read what Chuck Herrin says about Clint Curtis? Here:  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 04:30 PM   #34 
      Yes, "capability" is the key  tommcintyre   Feb-21-05 04:49 PM   #36 
   1 note to add plz.. ES&S CEO and Diebold CEO are BRTOTHERS!  Griffy   Feb-21-05 04:26 PM   #33 
   More great dirt on Diebold from Chuck Herrin:  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 04:33 PM   #35 
   Yup, that's a good point, Griffy--also the Chuck Hagel connection.  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 06:14 PM   #42 
      I am now!  helderheid   Feb-21-05 07:09 PM   #43 
         The alteration of the Exit Polls prevented Americans from knowing...  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 08:38 PM   #51 
         YES  helderheid   Feb-21-05 08:46 PM   #52 
         Mitofsky has been involved in election fraud for years, though. Peace  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 10:32 PM   #56 
            Yeah, Amaryllis, I listened to the whole interview of Victoria Collier.  Peace Patriot   Feb-22-05 04:30 AM   #61 
               Didn't Zogby also do exit polls this time?  Amaryllis   Feb-22-05 04:51 PM   #64 
                  Zogby's original prediction  helderheid   Feb-22-05 05:01 PM   #65 
                     Helderheid, THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! for the Zogby...  Peace Patriot   Feb-22-05 06:09 PM   #67 
         LOL.. media scandal as "InvestiGATE" very funny to me!..  Griffy   Feb-21-05 09:11 PM   #54 
   20 Amazing Fact About Election Fraud  tommcintyre   Feb-21-05 05:28 PM   #37 
   Think this is what you mean; html version with links:  Amaryllis   Feb-21-05 06:11 PM   #41 
      Yes, that's it. Lots of good info here. Easy to understand  tommcintyre   Feb-21-05 08:49 PM   #53 
   Thank you. Bookmarked and Recommended. (nt)  understandinglife   Feb-21-05 06:02 PM   #39 
   This URL doesn't work; know one that does??  berniew1   Feb-21-05 07:19 PM   #44 
   here ya go  helderheid   Feb-21-05 07:32 PM   #45 
      My statistical study of vote patterns in Florida has similar conclusion to  berniew1   Feb-21-05 07:45 PM   #48 
   These links don't work either??  berniew1   Feb-21-05 07:37 PM   #46 
   Look at response 15  helderheid   Feb-21-05 07:43 PM   #47 
   berniew1: be sure to remove the "..." and the spaces between the 1st and  Peace Patriot   Feb-21-05 08:23 PM   #50 
   VERY nice piece, Peace! n/t  IndyPriest   Feb-21-05 09:54 PM   #55 
   FYI  helderheid   Feb-22-05 12:23 AM   #57 
   Peace, You are a Force!  Ojai Person   Feb-22-05 12:39 AM   #58 
   you said it  helderheid   Feb-22-05 12:46 AM   #59 
   I am humbled. May the Force be with us all!  Peace Patriot   Feb-22-05 03:56 AM   #60 
   And this:  Amaryllis   Feb-22-05 09:39 PM   #70 
   This is THE definitive post on the matter! n/t  NationalEnquirer   Feb-22-05 01:08 PM   #62 
   Helderheid, here's an easy summary of the UC Berkeley study that...  Peace Patriot   Feb-22-05 02:23 PM   #63 
   Helderheid, take note! Posting here so you don't miss it...  Peace Patriot   Feb-22-05 06:21 PM   #68 
   Helderheid, have you seen this? This is crucial info:  Amaryllis   Feb-22-05 08:25 PM   #69 
 

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