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Sun Jan-09-05 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #57 |
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I especially like this one. It stops a lot of confusion
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| -Thinking out loud this AM and would like input. |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:13 AM |
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I'd include having elections run by a non-partisan body |
Boswells_Johnson |
Jan-09-05 09:18 AM |
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I love that idea but how |
Sydnie |
Jan-09-05 09:29 AM |
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See #41 below -- let high school honor society members do the counting |
Fly by night |
Jan-09-05 10:03 AM |
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uhm, one qualm |
Salomonity |
Jan-09-05 10:16 AM |
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Then be sure that the same safeguards we need with any counting system |
Fly by night |
Jan-09-05 10:35 AM |
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PS: Greetings to a fellow Mississipian |
Fly by night |
Jan-09-05 10:42 AM |
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I would like to add 'previous office holders' to that excellent idea |
SaveAmerica |
Jan-09-05 10:13 AM |
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Andy I like some of your idea's however I prefer to keep it as tamper |
In Truth We Trust |
Jan-09-05 10:33 AM |
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End gerrymandering for both parties. |
cornermouse |
Jan-09-05 09:20 AM |
#2 |
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I'll drink to that... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:24 AM |
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Publish a NIST Standard algorithm... |
hootinholler |
Jan-09-05 09:36 AM |
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Re: #8: Voting holiday, at least one day, with job and pay protection |
kedrys |
Jan-09-05 09:24 AM |
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Darn skippy! Columbus Day can go, IMHO. |
arnheim |
Jan-09-05 09:36 AM |
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That's it! Perfect - |
housewolf |
Jan-09-05 01:32 PM |
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Yes holiday |
me b zola |
Jan-09-05 02:30 PM |
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Great ideas, Andy! |
deminks |
Jan-09-05 09:24 AM |
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Absolutely |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:26 AM |
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This deals with the ease of voting and informing people on election day |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-09-05 09:29 AM |
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Agreed...but if you do have to cast a provisional ballot |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:31 AM |
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Andy, I definitely agree on the felons. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-09-05 09:41 AM |
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Provisionals are checked |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:49 AM |
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That's great if they can do that! This way the provisionals are not tossed |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-09-05 11:55 AM |
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This gets sticky with local issues - |
housewolf |
Jan-09-05 01:39 PM |
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We could do that as a local voters advocacy group |
Sydnie |
Jan-09-05 09:35 AM |
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We could do that Sydnie, but it has to be law. There will be places |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-09-05 09:44 AM |
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And/or require that each precinct have its own polling place |
Eloriel |
Jan-09-05 10:13 AM |
#57 |
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Very good Idea... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 10:18 AM |
#63 |
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Some places might not have public space to do one polling place |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-09-05 11:19 AM |
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More than one precinct at one place CAN be done. Here's how... |
harmonyguy |
Jan-09-05 01:42 PM |
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Reform Voter Registration and Absentee Voting rules |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jan-09-05 09:30 AM |
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All voters at age 18...automatically |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:35 AM |
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Both solutions would solve a lot of problems |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jan-09-05 09:46 AM |
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The security of early voting should also be |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:50 AM |
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Early Voting |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jan-09-05 09:55 AM |
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It is not the case ANYWHERE |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-09-05 10:06 AM |
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and isn't it rather suspicious... |
flyarm |
Jan-09-05 10:12 AM |
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Yes, it is a recipe for fraud. |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-09-05 10:15 AM |
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i don't know about the lws but i was a citizen observer for early vote in |
flyarm |
Jan-09-05 11:06 AM |
#81 |
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see my other post on early vote fla! |
flyarm |
Jan-09-05 10:09 AM |
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I don't think automatically registered would work, tho I like it otherwise |
Eloriel |
Jan-09-05 10:33 AM |
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Registration Receipts |
sandnsea |
Jan-09-05 04:05 PM |
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same day registration is the answer |
ginnyinWI |
Jan-09-05 04:17 PM |
#132 |
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Absolutely right |
dragonlady |
Jan-09-05 08:48 PM |
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Holo seal on absentee ballots. |
hootinholler |
Jan-09-05 09:44 AM |
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then maybe... |
flyarm |
Jan-09-05 10:14 AM |
#58 |
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YES!!! Criminally accountable |
Eloriel |
Jan-09-05 11:04 AM |
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Good question |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-09-05 05:47 PM |
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I would also add |
zalinda |
Jan-09-05 09:33 AM |
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I agree...Federal Elections should be |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:36 AM |
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I don't agree with this |
NoPasaran |
Jan-09-05 11:29 AM |
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you are right on this one!! |
flyarm |
Jan-09-05 10:23 AM |
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Several bills will be introduced in upcoming session of Congress. Not all |
flpoljunkie |
Jan-09-05 09:35 AM |
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Sorry but the good Senators are late to the game. |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:38 AM |
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We absolutely need to let them know what is required to reform elections. |
flpoljunkie |
Jan-09-05 10:49 AM |
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Screw random audits - audit EVERY vote |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-09-05 09:37 AM |
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Ok so we go all paper... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:45 AM |
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See post #38 |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-09-05 09:57 AM |
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Let high school honor society members count the paper ballots |
Fly by night |
Jan-09-05 10:00 AM |
#41 |
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Good idea. Make them the Election Audit committee |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-09-05 10:13 AM |
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How about... |
livvy |
Jan-09-05 10:00 AM |
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NO! on both |
Eloriel |
Jan-09-05 12:57 PM |
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Jeesh... |
livvy |
Jan-09-05 01:29 PM |
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if security or auditability assured, why not vote over a couple days? |
luaptifer |
Jan-09-05 10:12 AM |
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See post #59. |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-09-05 10:17 AM |
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Electors aren't due until Jan 6th |
FLDem5 |
Jan-09-05 02:18 PM |
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I love the idea of number 7 n/t |
Sydnie |
Jan-09-05 09:38 AM |
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Regarding #7 |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-09-05 09:56 AM |
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Great idea! |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 10:05 AM |
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Thank you. Now let's make it happen. |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-09-05 10:09 AM |
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ohhh my ..you sure have that right!! |
flyarm |
Jan-09-05 10:48 AM |
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Been there, done that |
Boredtodeath |
Jan-09-05 07:21 PM |
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The ballots should be kept secure at all times |
arnheim |
Jan-09-05 09:39 AM |
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Being a programmer, the only honest election is with paper ballots |
GetTheRightVote |
Jan-09-05 09:42 AM |
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There is no other way in my book too. Recyled paper at that! n/t |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-09-05 09:47 AM |
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Regarding 8. |
valis |
Jan-09-05 09:50 AM |
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We all get a voters phamphlet in Washington... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:52 AM |
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Right, CA too.... it may work, I guess... |
valis |
Jan-09-05 10:02 AM |
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Motivating people |
housewolf |
Jan-09-05 02:00 PM |
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Tax Credit? Not a bad idea - I like it. |
SnoopDog |
Jan-09-05 02:05 PM |
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No machines! Use the Oregon system. Paper ballots period. Still need some |
Amaryllis |
Jan-09-05 09:52 AM |
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I affectionately call Oregons system |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:54 AM |
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Why do you say that? |
Farmgirl |
Jan-09-05 11:10 AM |
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Hmm my concerns... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 11:54 AM |
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As I said, we need to work on the tabulators. And we don't HAVE to mail |
Amaryllis |
Jan-09-05 07:45 PM |
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I'm not sure about #8. |
brainshrub |
Jan-09-05 09:52 AM |
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There is always the option of |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 09:55 AM |
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Very good suggestions |
elare |
Jan-09-05 09:55 AM |
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Number of voting machines per precinct strictly determined by law |
jdog |
Jan-09-05 09:58 AM |
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Agreed. |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 10:04 AM |
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Strongly DIS-agree !!!! All precincts should use the same number....0 |
harmonyguy |
Jan-09-05 02:21 PM |
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What? No Faith in the current system? |
BeFree |
Jan-09-05 10:06 AM |
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I would like an online system that I could verify I voted |
DemReadingDU |
Jan-09-05 10:09 AM |
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The problem with this is |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 10:12 AM |
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secrecy is a key problem but here's a masking proposal |
luaptifer |
Jan-09-05 10:37 AM |
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"Voter participation should be mandatory" - |
Lurker321 |
Jan-09-05 10:17 AM |
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As a citizen of a Democratic Republic... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 10:19 AM |
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As I said, I consider voting a right, |
Lurker321 |
Jan-09-05 10:39 AM |
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agreed |
seventythree |
Jan-09-05 09:39 PM |
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Registration & more... |
IndyOp |
Jan-09-05 10:28 AM |
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the Australian system |
velvet |
Jan-09-05 10:34 AM |
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The paper ballot, hand-counted, should be the final recorded vote. |
Stephanie |
Jan-09-05 10:43 AM |
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Works for me. |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 11:25 AM |
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andy- you are a true patriot! you never stop! |
fooj |
Jan-09-05 10:47 AM |
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bottom line is... |
flyarm |
Jan-09-05 10:57 AM |
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great points! |
fooj |
Jan-09-05 11:02 AM |
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One important issue I didn't see other than in the link provided, |
mdb |
Jan-09-05 11:09 AM |
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The essential paradox of voting machines |
HomerRamone |
Jan-09-05 11:18 AM |
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H.R. 2239 - Voter Confidence & Increased Accessibility Act |
huckleberry |
Jan-09-05 11:21 AM |
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Rush Holts bill is a band aid... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 11:23 AM |
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The last sentence of Jim Moran's letter says a lot. |
mdb |
Jan-09-05 11:39 AM |
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I am against a paper trail...as should you |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 11:48 AM |
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A "voter-verified paper ballot" |
mdb |
Jan-09-05 12:01 PM |
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Read my sig line |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 12:05 PM |
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Well a lot of people use both terms as meaning the same thing. |
mdb |
Jan-09-05 12:13 PM |
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what do you think of the Electoral College? |
Faye |
Jan-09-05 11:41 AM |
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The EC has got to go... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 11:49 AM |
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I thought this was a pretty good list... |
ClassWarrior |
Jan-09-05 12:00 PM |
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Laws need to be passed forbidding election officials from participating |
bush_is_wacko |
Jan-09-05 12:18 PM |
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On the Amendment |
Bill Bored |
Jan-09-05 12:39 PM |
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Thinking about amendment the other day.... |
harmonyguy |
Jan-09-05 01:59 PM |
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Well, unless there's a Constitutional Convention, which only happened |
Bill Bored |
Jan-09-05 02:26 PM |
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What if voting for national office was SEPARATE from |
coffeenap |
Jan-09-05 12:50 PM |
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sorry-didn't see it was alread here |
coffeenap |
Jan-09-05 12:51 PM |
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Great thread, Andy! I have one other thing to add.... |
loudsue |
Jan-09-05 01:21 PM |
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move election day back to October...? |
gkhouston |
Jan-09-05 01:23 PM |
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Sequentially numbered ballots.... |
SnoopDog |
Jan-09-05 01:38 PM |
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See this post above for an example of how it can be done.... |
harmonyguy |
Jan-09-05 01:46 PM |
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I am all in favor of learning from others - like Canada... |
SnoopDog |
Jan-09-05 02:03 PM |
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Andy, you are too humble about 'just thinking out loud' ! |
genevat |
Jan-09-05 01:57 PM |
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And the repug majority will all vote for this because..... |
KerryReallyWon |
Jan-09-05 02:12 PM |
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Instant Run-off & "None of the Above" |
housewolf |
Jan-09-05 02:14 PM |
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I support Instant Run-off Voting |
katinmn |
Jan-09-05 04:24 PM |
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I like the thought but .... |
seventythree |
Jan-09-05 09:48 PM |
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the simplest idea of all... |
grasswire |
Jan-09-05 02:22 PM |
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I'm curious... |
harmonyguy |
Jan-09-05 03:53 PM |
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Election officials cannot be partisan campaign participants. nt |
wiggs |
Jan-09-05 02:33 PM |
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When done, we need to send to all house and senate members. n/t |
Lisabtrucking |
Jan-09-05 02:36 PM |
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my list |
Zan_of_Texas |
Jan-09-05 03:31 PM |
#127 |
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Number 6 is key |
suffragette |
Jan-09-05 04:02 PM |
#129 |
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No more voting machines or polling places. |
ginnyinWI |
Jan-09-05 04:10 PM |
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I would like to see a standard procedure across the nation. Same machines |
mzmolly |
Jan-09-05 04:31 PM |
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The way Canada does it. Paper ballots, required voting from all |
Niche |
Jan-09-05 04:37 PM |
#135 |
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Mandatory voting |
elare |
Jan-09-05 05:53 PM |
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Andy, I haven't worked this as long as you have but, it seems to |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-09-05 06:09 PM |
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I agree... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 06:13 PM |
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I like it! But is there any way... |
Vektor |
Jan-09-05 06:12 PM |
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Court them : ) n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-09-05 06:20 PM |
#142 |
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Exactly |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 07:23 PM |
#145 |
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That's right. The hardest thing we're dealing with isn't the Evil |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-09-05 07:40 PM |
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People also... |
Vektor |
Jan-09-05 11:56 PM |
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exactly why mandatory voting is no good |
seventythree |
Jan-09-05 09:39 PM |
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GET IT THRU YOUR HEADS! NO MACHINES EVER!!!!! |
bardgal |
Jan-09-05 06:14 PM |
#141 |
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I disagree... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 07:05 PM |
#143 |
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But, what about the tabulators? I can give you a piece of paper |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-09-05 07:46 PM |
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There is no need for tabulators if done properly... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 08:52 PM |
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Get them to let go of their sexy machines? There's the rub. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-09-05 08:58 PM |
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No we need to force it. |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 08:59 PM |
#153 |
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I'm with you. It's counter-intuitive. We'll have hands full. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-09-05 09:08 PM |
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True dat |
eridani |
Jan-10-05 05:47 AM |
#169 |
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I'm with you |
kster |
Jan-09-05 09:05 PM |
#154 |
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me too, paper only |
seventythree |
Jan-09-05 09:54 PM |
#160 |
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We all need to get it through our head that.... |
euler |
Jan-09-05 10:35 PM |
#165 |
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How about an anonymous voter ID number printed on the paper. |
fearnobush |
Jan-09-05 07:33 PM |
#146 |
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This idea smacks of Vote here |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-09-05 10:00 PM |
#161 |
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registration changes and paper ballot |
KaliTracy |
Jan-09-05 09:35 PM |
#156 |
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motor voter |
seventythree |
Jan-09-05 10:04 PM |
#162 |
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This is from the Kennedy School at Harvard. |
anaxarchos |
Jan-09-05 10:09 PM |
#163 |
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Christianity helps turn out the vote |
kcora |
Jan-11-05 11:58 AM |
#174 |
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You're missing at least one step. |
euler |
Jan-09-05 10:19 PM |
#164 |
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Hello Andy--I'm a newbie, but I have some input... |
No Exit |
Jan-09-05 11:00 PM |
#166 |
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My thoughts on this . . . |
Klimmer |
Jan-09-05 11:46 PM |
#167 |
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Bad Idea here is why... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Jan-10-05 06:17 AM |
#170 |
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An option I haven't seen here |
jbnow |
Jan-10-05 07:57 AM |
#171 |
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My comments |
kcora |
Jan-11-05 11:17 AM |
#172 |
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I like this topic - it makes me think, thanks! |
kcora |
Jan-11-05 11:33 AM |
#173 |
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