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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:18 AM
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63. Very good Idea...
I especially like this one. It stops a lot of confusion
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  -Thinking out loud this AM and would like input. God_bush_n_cheney  Jan-09-05 09:13 AM   #0 
  - I'd include having elections run by a non-partisan body  Boswells_Johnson   Jan-09-05 09:18 AM   #1 
  - I love that idea but how  Sydnie   Jan-09-05 09:29 AM   #7 
  - See #41 below -- let high school honor society members do the counting  Fly by night   Jan-09-05 10:03 AM   #44 
  - uhm, one qualm  Salomonity   Jan-09-05 10:16 AM   #60 
     - Then be sure that the same safeguards we need with any counting system  Fly by night   Jan-09-05 10:35 AM   #70 
     - PS: Greetings to a fellow Mississipian  Fly by night   Jan-09-05 10:42 AM   #73 
  - I would like to add 'previous office holders' to that excellent idea  SaveAmerica   Jan-09-05 10:13 AM   #55 
  - Andy I like some of your idea's however I prefer to keep it as tamper  In Truth We Trust   Jan-09-05 10:33 AM   #67 
  - End gerrymandering for both parties.  cornermouse   Jan-09-05 09:20 AM   #2 
  - I'll drink to that...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:24 AM   #4 
     - Publish a NIST Standard algorithm...  hootinholler   Jan-09-05 09:36 AM   #14 
  - Re: #8: Voting holiday, at least one day, with job and pay protection  kedrys   Jan-09-05 09:24 AM   # 
  - Darn skippy! Columbus Day can go, IMHO.  arnheim   Jan-09-05 09:36 AM   #15 
     - That's it! Perfect -  housewolf   Jan-09-05 01:32 PM   #108 
     - Yes holiday  me b zola   Jan-09-05 02:30 PM   #124 
  - Great ideas, Andy!  deminks   Jan-09-05 09:24 AM   #3 
  - Absolutely  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:26 AM   #5 
  - This deals with the ease of voting and informing people on election day  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-09-05 09:29 AM   #6 
  - Agreed...but if you do have to cast a provisional ballot  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:31 AM   #9 
  - Andy, I definitely agree on the felons.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-09-05 09:41 AM   #21 
     - Provisionals are checked  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:49 AM   #28 
        - That's great if they can do that! This way the provisionals are not tossed  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-09-05 11:55 AM   #95 
           - This gets sticky with local issues -  housewolf   Jan-09-05 01:39 PM   #110 
  - We could do that as a local voters advocacy group  Sydnie   Jan-09-05 09:35 AM   #12 
  - We could do that Sydnie, but it has to be law. There will be places  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-09-05 09:44 AM   #24 
  - And/or require that each precinct have its own polling place  Eloriel   Jan-09-05 10:13 AM   #57 
     - Very good Idea...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 10:18 AM   #63 
     - Some places might not have public space to do one polling place  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-09-05 11:19 AM   #85 
        - More than one precinct at one place CAN be done. Here's how...  harmonyguy   Jan-09-05 01:42 PM   #111 
  - Reform Voter Registration and Absentee Voting rules  DoYouEverWonder   Jan-09-05 09:30 AM   #8 
  - All voters at age 18...automatically  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:35 AM   #11 
  - Both solutions would solve a lot of problems  DoYouEverWonder   Jan-09-05 09:46 AM   #26 
  - The security of early voting should also be  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:50 AM   #30 
     - Early Voting  DoYouEverWonder   Jan-09-05 09:55 AM   #37 
     - It is not the case ANYWHERE  Boredtodeath   Jan-09-05 10:06 AM   #48 
     - and isn't it rather suspicious...  flyarm   Jan-09-05 10:12 AM   #52 
        - Yes, it is a recipe for fraud.  Boredtodeath   Jan-09-05 10:15 AM   #59 
           - i don't know about the lws but i was a citizen observer for early vote in  flyarm   Jan-09-05 11:06 AM   #81 
     - see my other post on early vote fla!  flyarm   Jan-09-05 10:09 AM   #50 
  - I don't think automatically registered would work, tho I like it otherwise  Eloriel   Jan-09-05 10:33 AM   #68 
     - Registration Receipts  sandnsea   Jan-09-05 04:05 PM   #130 
     - same day registration is the answer  ginnyinWI   Jan-09-05 04:17 PM   #132 
        - Absolutely right  dragonlady   Jan-09-05 08:48 PM   #150 
  - Holo seal on absentee ballots.  hootinholler   Jan-09-05 09:44 AM   #23 
     - then maybe...  flyarm   Jan-09-05 10:14 AM   #58 
        - YES!!! Criminally accountable  Eloriel   Jan-09-05 11:04 AM   #80 
           - Good question  Boredtodeath   Jan-09-05 05:47 PM   #136 
  - I would also add  zalinda   Jan-09-05 09:33 AM   #10 
  - I agree...Federal Elections should be  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:36 AM   #16 
  - I don't agree with this  NoPasaran   Jan-09-05 11:29 AM   #89 
  - you are right on this one!!  flyarm   Jan-09-05 10:23 AM   #65 
  - Several bills will be introduced in upcoming session of Congress. Not all  flpoljunkie   Jan-09-05 09:35 AM   #13 
  - Sorry but the good Senators are late to the game.  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:38 AM   #18 
     - We absolutely need to let them know what is required to reform elections.  flpoljunkie   Jan-09-05 10:49 AM   #77 
  - Screw random audits - audit EVERY vote  Boredtodeath   Jan-09-05 09:37 AM   #17 
  - Ok so we go all paper...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:45 AM   #25 
     - See post #38  Boredtodeath   Jan-09-05 09:57 AM   #39 
     - Let high school honor society members count the paper ballots  Fly by night   Jan-09-05 10:00 AM   #41 
     - Good idea. Make them the Election Audit committee  Boredtodeath   Jan-09-05 10:13 AM   #56 
     - How about...  livvy   Jan-09-05 10:00 AM   #42 
     - NO! on both  Eloriel   Jan-09-05 12:57 PM   #104 
        - Jeesh...  livvy   Jan-09-05 01:29 PM   #107 
     - if security or auditability assured, why not vote over a couple days?  luaptifer   Jan-09-05 10:12 AM   #53 
     - See post #59.  Boredtodeath   Jan-09-05 10:17 AM   #62 
     - Electors aren't due until Jan 6th  FLDem5   Jan-09-05 02:18 PM   #120 
  - I love the idea of number 7 n/t  Sydnie   Jan-09-05 09:38 AM   #19 
  - Regarding #7  Boredtodeath   Jan-09-05 09:56 AM   #38 
     - Great idea!  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 10:05 AM   #46 
     - Thank you. Now let's make it happen.  Boredtodeath   Jan-09-05 10:09 AM   #51 
     - ohhh my ..you sure have that right!!  flyarm   Jan-09-05 10:48 AM   #76 
        - Been there, done that  Boredtodeath   Jan-09-05 07:21 PM   #144 
  - The ballots should be kept secure at all times  arnheim   Jan-09-05 09:39 AM   #20 
  - Being a programmer, the only honest election is with paper ballots  GetTheRightVote   Jan-09-05 09:42 AM   #22 
  - There is no other way in my book too. Recyled paper at that! n/t  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-09-05 09:47 AM   #27 
  - Regarding 8.  valis   Jan-09-05 09:50 AM   #29 
  - We all get a voters phamphlet in Washington...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:52 AM   #32 
     - Right, CA too.... it may work, I guess...  valis   Jan-09-05 10:02 AM   #43 
     - Motivating people  housewolf   Jan-09-05 02:00 PM   #115 
        - Tax Credit? Not a bad idea - I like it.  SnoopDog   Jan-09-05 02:05 PM   #117 
  - No machines! Use the Oregon system. Paper ballots period. Still need some  Amaryllis   Jan-09-05 09:52 AM   #31 
  - I affectionately call Oregons system  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:54 AM   #34 
     - Why do you say that?  Farmgirl   Jan-09-05 11:10 AM   #83 
        - Hmm my concerns...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 11:54 AM   #94 
           - As I said, we need to work on the tabulators. And we don't HAVE to mail  Amaryllis   Jan-09-05 07:45 PM   #148 
  - I'm not sure about #8.  brainshrub   Jan-09-05 09:52 AM   #33 
  - There is always the option of  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 09:55 AM   #35 
  - Very good suggestions  elare   Jan-09-05 09:55 AM   #36 
  - Number of voting machines per precinct strictly determined by law  jdog   Jan-09-05 09:58 AM   #40 
  - Agreed.  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 10:04 AM   #45 
  - Strongly DIS-agree !!!! All precincts should use the same number....0  harmonyguy   Jan-09-05 02:21 PM   #121 
  - What? No Faith in the current system?  BeFree   Jan-09-05 10:06 AM   #47 
  - I would like an online system that I could verify I voted  DemReadingDU   Jan-09-05 10:09 AM   #49 
  - The problem with this is  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 10:12 AM   #54 
     - secrecy is a key problem but here's a masking proposal  luaptifer   Jan-09-05 10:37 AM   #71 
  - "Voter participation should be mandatory" -  Lurker321   Jan-09-05 10:17 AM   #61 
  - As a citizen of a Democratic Republic...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 10:19 AM   #64 
  - As I said, I consider voting a right,  Lurker321   Jan-09-05 10:39 AM   #72 
  - agreed  seventythree   Jan-09-05 09:39 PM   #158 
  - Registration & more...  IndyOp   Jan-09-05 10:28 AM   #66 
  - the Australian system  velvet   Jan-09-05 10:34 AM   #69 
  - The paper ballot, hand-counted, should be the final recorded vote.  Stephanie   Jan-09-05 10:43 AM   #74 
  - Works for me.  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 11:25 AM   #88 
  - andy- you are a true patriot! you never stop!  fooj   Jan-09-05 10:47 AM   #75 
  - bottom line is...  flyarm   Jan-09-05 10:57 AM   #78 
     - great points!  fooj   Jan-09-05 11:02 AM   #79 
  - One important issue I didn't see other than in the link provided,  mdb   Jan-09-05 11:09 AM   #82 
  - The essential paradox of voting machines  HomerRamone   Jan-09-05 11:18 AM   #84 
  - H.R. 2239 - Voter Confidence & Increased Accessibility Act  huckleberry   Jan-09-05 11:21 AM   #86 
  - Rush Holts bill is a band aid...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 11:23 AM   #87 
  - The last sentence of Jim Moran's letter says a lot.  mdb   Jan-09-05 11:39 AM   #90 
     - I am against a paper trail...as should you  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 11:48 AM   #92 
        - A "voter-verified paper ballot"  mdb   Jan-09-05 12:01 PM   #97 
           - Read my sig line  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 12:05 PM   #98 
              - Well a lot of people use both terms as meaning the same thing.  mdb   Jan-09-05 12:13 PM   #99 
  - what do you think of the Electoral College?  Faye   Jan-09-05 11:41 AM   #91 
  - The EC has got to go...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 11:49 AM   #93 
  - I thought this was a pretty good list...  ClassWarrior   Jan-09-05 12:00 PM   #96 
  - Laws need to be passed forbidding election officials from participating  bush_is_wacko   Jan-09-05 12:18 PM   #100 
  - On the Amendment  Bill Bored   Jan-09-05 12:39 PM   #101 
  - Thinking about amendment the other day....  harmonyguy   Jan-09-05 01:59 PM   #114 
     - Well, unless there's a Constitutional Convention, which only happened  Bill Bored   Jan-09-05 02:26 PM   #123 
  - What if voting for national office was SEPARATE from  coffeenap   Jan-09-05 12:50 PM   #102 
  - sorry-didn't see it was alread here  coffeenap   Jan-09-05 12:51 PM   #103 
  - Great thread, Andy! I have one other thing to add....  loudsue   Jan-09-05 01:21 PM   #105 
  - move election day back to October...?  gkhouston   Jan-09-05 01:23 PM   #106 
  - Sequentially numbered ballots....  SnoopDog   Jan-09-05 01:38 PM   #109 
  - See this post above for an example of how it can be done....  harmonyguy   Jan-09-05 01:46 PM   #112 
     - I am all in favor of learning from others - like Canada...  SnoopDog   Jan-09-05 02:03 PM   #116 
  - Andy, you are too humble about 'just thinking out loud' !  genevat   Jan-09-05 01:57 PM   #113 
  - And the repug majority will all vote for this because.....  KerryReallyWon   Jan-09-05 02:12 PM   #118 
  - Instant Run-off & "None of the Above"  housewolf   Jan-09-05 02:14 PM   #119 
  - I support Instant Run-off Voting  katinmn   Jan-09-05 04:24 PM   #133 
  - I like the thought but ....  seventythree   Jan-09-05 09:48 PM   #159 
  - the simplest idea of all...  grasswire   Jan-09-05 02:22 PM   #122 
  - I'm curious...  harmonyguy   Jan-09-05 03:53 PM   #128 
  - Election officials cannot be partisan campaign participants. nt  wiggs   Jan-09-05 02:33 PM   #125 
  - When done, we need to send to all house and senate members. n/t  Lisabtrucking   Jan-09-05 02:36 PM   #126 
  - my list  Zan_of_Texas   Jan-09-05 03:31 PM   #127 
  - Number 6 is key  suffragette   Jan-09-05 04:02 PM   #129 
  - No more voting machines or polling places.  ginnyinWI   Jan-09-05 04:10 PM   #131 
  - I would like to see a standard procedure across the nation. Same machines  mzmolly   Jan-09-05 04:31 PM   #134 
  - The way Canada does it. Paper ballots, required voting from all  Niche   Jan-09-05 04:37 PM   #135 
  - Mandatory voting  elare   Jan-09-05 05:53 PM   #137 
  - Andy, I haven't worked this as long as you have but, it seems to  sfexpat2000   Jan-09-05 06:09 PM   #138 
  - I agree...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 06:13 PM   #140 
  - I like it! But is there any way...  Vektor   Jan-09-05 06:12 PM   #139 
  - Court them : ) n/t  sfexpat2000   Jan-09-05 06:20 PM   #142 
  - Exactly  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 07:23 PM   #145 
     - That's right. The hardest thing we're dealing with isn't the Evil  sfexpat2000   Jan-09-05 07:40 PM   #147 
        - People also...  Vektor   Jan-09-05 11:56 PM   #168 
  - exactly why mandatory voting is no good  seventythree   Jan-09-05 09:39 PM   #157 
  - GET IT THRU YOUR HEADS! NO MACHINES EVER!!!!!  bardgal   Jan-09-05 06:14 PM   #141 
  - I disagree...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 07:05 PM   #143 
  - But, what about the tabulators? I can give you a piece of paper  sfexpat2000   Jan-09-05 07:46 PM   #149 
  - There is no need for tabulators if done properly...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 08:52 PM   #151 
     - Get them to let go of their sexy machines? There's the rub. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jan-09-05 08:58 PM   #152 
        - No we need to force it.  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 08:59 PM   #153 
           - I'm with you. It's counter-intuitive. We'll have hands full.  sfexpat2000   Jan-09-05 09:08 PM   #155 
  - True dat  eridani   Jan-10-05 05:47 AM   #169 
  - I'm with you  kster   Jan-09-05 09:05 PM   #154 
  - me too, paper only  seventythree   Jan-09-05 09:54 PM   #160 
  - We all need to get it through our head that....  euler   Jan-09-05 10:35 PM   #165 
  - How about an anonymous voter ID number printed on the paper.  fearnobush   Jan-09-05 07:33 PM   #146 
  - This idea smacks of Vote here  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-09-05 10:00 PM   #161 
  - registration changes and paper ballot  KaliTracy   Jan-09-05 09:35 PM   #156 
  - motor voter  seventythree   Jan-09-05 10:04 PM   #162 
  - This is from the Kennedy School at Harvard.  anaxarchos   Jan-09-05 10:09 PM   #163 
  - Christianity helps turn out the vote  kcora   Jan-11-05 11:58 AM   #174 
  - You're missing at least one step.  euler   Jan-09-05 10:19 PM   #164 
  - Hello Andy--I'm a newbie, but I have some input...  No Exit   Jan-09-05 11:00 PM   #166 
  - My thoughts on this . . .  Klimmer   Jan-09-05 11:46 PM   #167 
  - Bad Idea here is why...  God_bush_n_cheney   Jan-10-05 06:17 AM   #170 
     - An option I haven't seen here  jbnow   Jan-10-05 07:57 AM   #171 
  - My comments  kcora   Jan-11-05 11:17 AM   #172 
  - I like this topic - it makes me think, thanks!  kcora   Jan-11-05 11:33 AM   #173 
 

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