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2. house and senate votes are on different matters
the house vote regards accepting the ohio electors as it pertains to the presidential race.
the senate vote regards accepting the ohio electors as it pertains to the vice-presidential race.
this is one of several constitutional holdovers from the days when the prez and veep races were not joined to the same ticket.

in any event, the math in indeed interesting. however, unless an elaborate trap is laid, all the reps basically know who (or at least how many) votes are showing up. so, if all the democrats were actually planning to show up and vote no, then the banana republicans would have all shown up as well.

as i said, unless a very elaborate trap is laid.

besides, even if the trap worked and the banana republicans were caught off guard, they simply would have found some way to delay the vote until more banana republicans could return to washington.
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  -Math proves that Dems could have fought back on Jan 6th! brainshrub  Jan-08-05 03:28 PM   #0 
  - Even if Kerry had planned something  Democrat Dragon   Jan-08-05 03:38 PM   #1 
  - Assuming you're right, it just shows how much work has to be done.  brainshrub   Jan-08-05 03:42 PM   #3 
     - There is no "surrender"  Patchuli   Jan-08-05 10:43 PM   #34 
  - house and senate votes are on different matters  unblock   Jan-08-05 03:42 PM   #2 
  - Agreed 100%. But wouldn't it have been a glorious fight?  brainshrub   Jan-08-05 03:49 PM   #6 
  - No, it would have been a foolish fight.  mzmolly   Jan-08-05 10:10 PM   #28 
     - With Republicans it's ALWAYS "payback time."  brainshrub   Jan-08-05 11:24 PM   #36 
  - NO, house and senate votes both on Ohio objection...  k8conant   Jan-08-05 03:50 PM   #7 
     - i stand corrected, they clarified this in 1887  unblock   Jan-08-05 04:46 PM   #12 
        - see # 30 n/t  Wilms   Jan-08-05 10:18 PM   #31 
  - I've thought about what you wrote all the time....  Karenca   Jan-08-05 03:44 PM   #4 
  - politics isn't about math  imenja   Jan-08-05 03:44 PM   #5 
  - Politics is about winning.  brainshrub   Jan-08-05 03:58 PM   #8 
     - Why do you think the entire black caucus .. . .  imenja   Jan-08-05 04:06 PM   #9 
        - You don't understand what I'm trying to say.  brainshrub   Jan-08-05 08:35 PM   #21 
        - I see your point  imenja   Jan-08-05 09:00 PM   #24 
           - The only reason I'm still a Democrat today is because one Senator fought.  brainshrub   Jan-08-05 09:44 PM   #26 
           - I absolutely agree with you. I think there are many of them who have no  Amaryllis   Jan-08-05 10:17 PM   # 
        - I am also doing action. I am working with a number of groups in my city  Amaryllis   Jan-08-05 10:12 PM   #29 
           - Where does your group meet?  imenja   Jan-08-05 10:37 PM   #33 
              - Oregon. A lot of us that are working on this are finding each other.  Amaryllis   Jan-09-05 12:26 AM   #38 
  - Click here to change the system!  imenja   Jan-08-05 04:06 PM   #10 
  - Makes sense to me. Clearly the Dems were not thinking along these lines  spooked911   Jan-08-05 04:39 PM   #11 
  - A classic case of deeply ingrained institutional myopia.  brainshrub   Jan-08-05 08:23 PM   #20 
  - see #30. A factor may be missing in this equation. n/t  Wilms   Jan-08-05 10:20 PM   #32 
  - Randi Rhodes mentioned this too  TheGoldenRule   Jan-08-05 04:54 PM   #13 
  - Yes, and in a perfect world  forgethell   Jan-08-05 05:56 PM   #14 
  - Yeah, and what then?  Georgia_Dem   Jan-08-05 06:32 PM   #15 
  - The key seems to be in the law - I think I agree that a NO would have  higher class   Jan-08-05 06:49 PM   #16 
  - kick  genius   Jan-08-05 07:09 PM   #17 
  - Doubt it.  KSAtheist   Jan-08-05 07:09 PM   #18 
  - Dems are math challenged. They keep saying not enough to change results  Amaryllis   Jan-08-05 07:22 PM   #19 
  - So Blackwell *alone* could have done it...  O.M.B.inOhio   Jan-08-05 08:58 PM   #23 
     - You OH folks must feel a lot of kinship with FL voters. That argument  Amaryllis   Jan-08-05 10:07 PM   #27 
  - Aftermath- - - - Republican presidents for the rest of our lives.  seriousstan   Jan-08-05 08:37 PM   #22 
  - In the real world you will not get a chance in 2006.  brainshrub   Jan-08-05 09:38 PM   #25 
  - Wait a second...  Wilms   Jan-08-05 10:17 PM   #30 
     - The issue isn't whether Bush wins,  brainshrub   Jan-08-05 11:17 PM   #35 
        - Beg to differ.  Wilms   Jan-08-05 11:37 PM   #37 

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