Samantha
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Thu Jan-06-05 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #32 |
| 35. Hey thanks, but don't thank me, thank our founding fathers |
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That's why Baker tried to goad Gore into taking the issue to the courts in 2000. Baker knew if Gore won via a judicial opinion, his legitimacy would be questioned. Gore refused to take bait. Thus, the Republicans were forced to go to court first. Hence, it is Bush* who carries the stain of illegitimacy.
The Supreme Court is not supposed to decide who is president. That too is it in a nutshell. This is a Congressional issue, not a Supreme Court political call.
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| -I believe the election of Bush* CAN be legitimately overturned tomorrow |
Samantha |
Jan-05-05 11:11 PM |
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He was cool! |
politicasista |
Jan-05-05 11:12 PM |
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If you toss out Ohio, though, Bush still wins, right? |
crispini |
Jan-05-05 11:14 PM |
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Not necessarily |
Samantha |
Jan-05-05 11:23 PM |
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If No one stood up in 2000 do you really think anyone |
Truman01 |
Jan-06-05 01:25 AM |
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Today is a new day |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 05:20 AM |
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The number required to win is 270. Without Ohio, Bush doesn't have it |
jmowreader |
Jan-06-05 09:10 AM |
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I'm not sure about the rules, but even if Ohio's 20 EV's were thrown |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-05-05 11:14 PM |
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No, neither candidate |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jan-06-05 05:30 AM |
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Yes, Bush would still have a simple majority of the remaining |
BlueEyedSon |
Jan-06-05 09:02 AM |
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Here's what we can do! |
sd_UDO |
Jan-05-05 11:14 PM |
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Tomorrows only a beginning; evidence is solid; but Repubs still majority |
berniew1 |
Jan-05-05 11:14 PM |
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Documentation of vote machine fraud & suppression enough to challenge |
berniew1 |
Jan-05-05 11:15 PM |
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It's not a matter of convincing the public |
Samantha |
Jan-05-05 11:24 PM |
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Actually its a matter of convincing the majority of the Congressmen. n/t |
tx_dem41 |
Jan-06-05 07:16 AM |
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That's why the Senate needs to Filibuster! If they can drag it out... |
zann725 |
Jan-06-05 02:54 AM |
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it'scalled "2 birdies w/ 1 stone" - Filibuster the ultimate media buster |
Eye_on_prize |
Jan-06-05 03:16 AM |
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I believe that Rep John Conyers has more then enough evidence to |
GetTheRightVote |
Jan-05-05 11:15 PM |
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Go Lil John! |
politicasista |
Jan-05-05 11:16 PM |
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I just hope that Kerry's recent email saying he's 'NOT joining in' |
zann725 |
Jan-06-05 02:56 AM |
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I believe what he said was: |
Der Blaue Engel |
Jan-06-05 03:23 AM |
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"La Rouche stated today " LOL--please, hes a fascist himself dint get me |
FogerRox |
Jan-06-05 09:25 AM |
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Why didn't he bring up this evidence? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-07-05 12:11 AM |
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Fraud Big Enough To Drive A Country Through n/t |
OrangeCountyDemocrat |
Jan-05-05 11:18 PM |
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It's a slam dunk! |
IanDB1 |
Jan-05-05 11:20 PM |
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It's a slam dunk and a closed case |
Samantha |
Jan-05-05 11:27 PM |
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Uphill Battle |
OrangeCountyDemocrat |
Jan-05-05 11:30 PM |
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I do not pretend to have a crystal ball which allows me to predict the |
Samantha |
Jan-05-05 11:39 PM |
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send this argument to your Senator (or any Dem Senator)-makes a good point |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Jan-05-05 11:27 PM |
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I spent a week analyzing why we have this huge communications gap here |
Samantha |
Jan-05-05 11:34 PM |
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Does Conyers have or think that he has |
housewolf |
Jan-05-05 11:53 PM |
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I am not sure, in all honesty, exactly what Conyers has |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 12:16 AM |
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I see... |
housewolf |
Jan-06-05 12:39 AM |
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Samantha! -- Nice piece, perhaps Conyers & Co are among other |
Imagevision |
Jan-05-05 11:45 PM |
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I am sorry it didn't all come together until the 11th hour |
Samantha |
Jan-05-05 11:49 PM |
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But who interprets state law? |
Bill Bored |
Jan-05-05 11:46 PM |
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These are convoluted issues |
Samantha |
Jan-05-05 11:56 PM |
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I think this is his plan, if he gets a chance to present his evidence. |
Bill Bored |
Jan-06-05 12:03 AM |
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Let me ask you this |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 12:21 AM |
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You neglect the spin factor. |
Bill Bored |
Jan-06-05 12:48 AM |
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Where is this all going? |
TruthBeTold22 |
Jan-06-05 08:33 AM |
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But if we have to depend on the Supreme Court for the final interpretation |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-05-05 11:48 PM |
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The Supreme Court has no authority to override the Congress on this |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 12:00 AM |
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Terrific!!!!!!!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-06-05 12:02 AM |
#32 |
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Hey thanks, but don't thank me, thank our founding fathers |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 12:05 AM |
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Which is probably one reason for Kerry's early concession. |
Raksha |
Jan-06-05 02:17 AM |
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BINGO! Rove is screwed..... |
Pachamama |
Jan-06-05 02:22 AM |
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And they didn't get rid of Filibuster YET... |
zann725 |
Jan-06-05 02:58 AM |
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Only bummer is Cheney is the chairman tomorrow -- so that should |
Imagevision |
Jan-05-05 11:48 PM |
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Are you kidding? I'm looking forward to watching Crashcart squirm! n/t |
RevCheesehead |
Jan-05-05 11:58 PM |
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LOL |
FreepFryer |
Jan-06-05 12:53 AM |
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that's dynamite--in a bad way |
Salomonity |
Jan-05-05 11:49 PM |
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Let's be specific here |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 12:02 AM |
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Imagine if they got into a tit for tat game of challenging |
drm604 |
Jan-06-05 12:29 AM |
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superb point, Samantha |
zapped 1 |
Jan-05-05 11:51 PM |
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If WE had not all come together here and debated these issues |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 12:36 AM |
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Samantha, how |
housewolf |
Jan-05-05 11:57 PM |
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Yes, Conyers needs this ASAP |
politicasista |
Jan-06-05 12:00 AM |
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He's got it now. |
FreepFryer |
Jan-06-05 03:19 AM |
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I am counting on everyone here to help me |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 12:23 AM |
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Believe, Samantha. Great post, encouraging. As another poster noted a... |
FreepFryer |
Jan-06-05 12:00 AM |
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We can take back this election if we only insist adherence to the |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 12:25 AM |
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"I Support The Constitution' |
FreepFryer |
Jan-06-05 12:48 AM |
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 12:08 AM |
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absolutely. Everyone!!! |
zapped 1 |
Jan-06-05 12:14 AM |
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I did post about Boies' argument when I read it |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 12:30 AM |
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How about TIA? |
fooj |
Jan-06-05 12:42 AM |
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OMG!!! I almost forgot WILL PITT!!! |
fooj |
Jan-06-05 12:44 AM |
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ANDY NEEDS TO GET THIS AS WELL. He has a shortcut to Conyers. |
FreepFryer |
Jan-06-05 12:20 AM |
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Oh GOOD thinking!!! Yay Andy! n/t |
housewolf |
Jan-06-05 12:34 AM |
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won't happen |
grays4u |
Jan-06-05 12:43 AM |
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k |
Faye |
Jan-06-05 12:43 AM |
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CLASS 1? |
djmaddox1 |
Jan-06-05 06:05 AM |
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a lucky class 1 |
Faye |
Jan-06-05 08:08 AM |
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No Senator or Congressional represenative will protect Bush*s |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 12:53 AM |
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How about a Filibuster? There was talk of that this morning. |
zann725 |
Jan-06-05 03:01 AM |
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Not if there are not enough members in Congress tomorrow |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jan-06-05 05:42 AM |
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Sorry? |
Blue State Native |
Jan-06-05 08:41 AM |
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KICK Emailing to my media list now |
redacted |
Jan-06-05 01:14 AM |
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I will fax it to the real Dem and moderate Republican Senators. |
Ojai Person |
Jan-06-05 01:19 AM |
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Can you please post it here once it's distilled? |
IanDB1 |
Jan-06-05 06:53 AM |
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Sent via fax to ~20 Dem Senators. |
FreepFryer |
Jan-06-05 01:22 AM |
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please keep kicking this through the day |
zapped 1 |
Jan-06-05 01:38 AM |
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Kick |
tuvor |
Jan-06-05 01:40 AM |
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KICK Emailing to my media list now (29 addresses) |
redacted |
Jan-06-05 01:49 AM |
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KICK Emailed to RAW STORY |
redacted |
Jan-06-05 02:02 AM |
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kick again |
redacted |
Jan-06-05 02:07 AM |
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kick thanks |
zapped 1 |
Jan-06-05 02:09 AM |
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I just emailed Brad for you |
BigBearJohn |
Jan-06-05 02:29 AM |
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KICK thank you BBJ |
redacted |
Jan-06-05 02:36 AM |
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Thanks BBJ... |
BradBlog |
Jan-06-05 02:50 AM |
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I don't know who you are, but I like the way your brain works... |
Pachamama |
Jan-06-05 02:20 AM |
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Amen! |
Swamp Rat |
Jan-06-05 10:57 AM |
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no. |
Machiavelli05 |
Jan-06-05 02:36 AM |
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yes |
zapped 1 |
Jan-06-05 02:46 AM |
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you dont actually expect the GOP members to be outraged? |
Machiavelli05 |
Jan-06-05 02:50 AM |
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No, there does not need to be a precedent |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 05:27 AM |
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IF it had continued to procede in 2000 - then yes this argument is valid |
Machiavelli05 |
Jan-06-05 02:32 PM |
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KICK and emailed to Senators Boxer, Schumer, Obama, Clinton |
redacted |
Jan-06-05 02:41 AM |
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thank YOU ! |
zapped 1 |
Jan-06-05 02:51 AM |
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Kick n/t |
BernieBear |
Jan-06-05 05:40 AM |
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There's never been a doubt |
bemis12 |
Jan-06-05 06:06 AM |
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Can we all please contact Rep. Stephen Lynch? |
IanDB1 |
Jan-06-05 06:57 AM |
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Let's look at the words of The Constitution, David Boies and John Conyers |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 07:12 AM |
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Be careful about precedents you set |
El Vengedor |
Jan-06-05 07:52 AM |
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What exactly is the standard for rejecting a state's slate of electors? |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 08:04 AM |
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Speaking of political prices |
El Vengedor |
Jan-06-05 08:19 AM |
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I am not in the least naive and I am not getting into a debate with you |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 08:25 AM |
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Let's wait and see what happens |
El Vengedor |
Jan-06-05 08:32 AM |
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to me it means that each state has to raise their standards |
DELUSIONAL |
Jan-06-05 11:22 AM |
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Samantha you need to get in the real world Lady. |
liberalMabhool |
Jan-06-05 08:28 AM |
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I assure you |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 10:15 AM |
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Where is all this going |
TruthBeTold22 |
Jan-06-05 08:39 AM |
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This is not a criminal or civil proceeding in a court of law |
Samantha |
Jan-06-05 10:20 AM |
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Different Standards |
TruthBeTold22 |
Jan-06-05 11:36 AM |
#115 |
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KICK |
redacted |
Jan-06-05 09:20 AM |
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KICK in honor of Boxer, Clinton, Obama |
redacted |
Jan-06-05 10:28 AM |
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KICK in honor of Dodd, too |
redacted |
Jan-06-05 11:06 AM |
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KICK! |
Lizzie Borden |
Jan-06-05 03:12 PM |
#117 |
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