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Letter from Senator Leahy: "I have no intention of contesting..."
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My purpose is posting this letter is NOT to start yet another “This really sucks, what is wrong with them, why can’t they see what’s in front of their eyes” thread.

My purpose is to direct you to this link to the Dean People’s new revised talking points which specifically address EVERY single reason Leahy gives for not contesting, as well as common reasons Leahy doesn’t mention but others do. They keep giving the same tired reasons for not contesting, and we keep giving the same reasons why they should. These talking points reframe the conversation. PLEASE consider this in your contacts with your senators today and tomorrow.

http://www.unioncountyfordemocracy.org/files/jan6points...

Also see Will Pitt’s blog entry http://truthout.org/fyi /:

Manual for pestering Senators
Monday 03 January 2005 @ 11:15

If you are planning this week to write your Senators and ask them to stand up with Rep. Conyers at the Electoral College hearing on the 6th, take a look at the talking points prepared by the Dean people. There is a lot of good stuff in there.

My two cents are as follows: When writing your Senators, be sure above all else to lean on the words Conyers used in his letter. "I am hoping that you will consider joining us in this important effort," wrote Conyers, "to debate and highlight the problems in Ohio which disenfranchised innumerable voters."

Debate and highlight, not overthrow. This is enough of a political minefield as it is - any Senator who does stand up faces severe attacks from the GOP as well as from go-along Democrats. Debate and highlight allows for political cover, and puts any Senator who stands up under that premise to be the defender of our right to vote.

Tactics are as important as being right in this matter. Just a thought.
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Letter from Leahy:

Dear Ms. XXXXXX

Thank you for contacting me. I appreciate hearing from you about the 2004 presidential election.

While I share in the disappointment of many with the results of this election, I was pleased to see such a high number of Americans
turn out to vote. Since Senator John Kerry has conceded, I have no
intention of contesting the results of the election. That being said, the U.S. Government Accountability Office is conducting a
thorough investigation of all allegations concerning voter rolls and
registrations, fraud, and election concerns, and I will certainly
continue to pay close attention to this important issue.

Many Vermonters, after seeing Michael Moore's movie,
"Fahrenheit 9/11," contacted me raising questions and concerns
about the 12 members of the Congressional Black Caucus who
voiced their opposition to Florida's electors at the Joint Session of Congress convened for the ceremonial reading of the electoral
votes. Several key events preceded the January 6, 2001 Joint
Session of Congress, including: (1) the U.S. Supreme Court had
ended the vote-counting in Florida with its decision in the case of
Bush v. Gore, (2) the Electoral College had cast its votes, and (3)
the Democratic candidate, Al Gore, had conceded. For an objection
to be heard during this process, federal law states that the objection must be in writing and must be signed by at least one Senator and one Representative. Then-Vice President Gore met with the Congressional Black Caucus before January 6 and asked that they
not object, telling its members that, had the objection been
accepted, it merely would have opened the floor for debate and
would not have altered the outcome. Problems with the election
had already been debated for months and the decision had already
been made, meaning that additional debate would not have
changed the outcome of the election.

Again, thank you for contacting me, and please keep in touch.

Patrick Leahy
United States Senator

http://leahy.senate.gov /

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  Letter from Senator Leahy: "I have no intention of contesting..." Amaryllis  Jan-04-05 11:30 AM   #0 
   Manual for PESTERING senators?  MissBrooks   Jan-04-05 11:32 AM   #1 
   I'm not fond of that phrasing either.  Pacifist Patriot   Jan-04-05 11:35 AM   #3 
   HE SAID "NO INTENTION". THAT DOES NOT MEAN HE WON'T  TruthIsAll   Jan-04-05 03:26 PM   #72 
   thank you for contacting me, and please keep in touch.  pbartch   Jan-04-05 01:01 PM   #52 
   I agree!  MissBrooks   Jan-04-05 01:22 PM   #55 
   where does he say pestering  dwickham   Jan-04-05 07:17 PM   #82 
   Two things jump out at me.  Pacifist Patriot   Jan-04-05 11:35 AM   #2 
   The Dean People talking points specifically address #1  Amaryllis   Jan-04-05 11:37 AM   #4 
   You're first point is particulary sharp  rock   Jan-04-05 11:48 AM   #8 
   2 hrs of debate: yeah, part of their job.  O.M.B.inOhio   Jan-04-05 01:47 PM   #60 
   Thanks, Amaryllis. (Now, there's a word I haven't read since  sfexpat2000   Jan-04-05 11:39 AM   #5 
   here is my reply to Leahy  nmoliver   Jan-04-05 11:43 AM   #6 
   good line...i like it  OKthatsIT   Jan-04-05 04:38 PM   #78 
   Leahy's last point:  Zan_of_Texas   Jan-04-05 11:46 AM   #7 
   Yes, they are wrong. See the talking points. OUR debate with them  Amaryllis   Jan-04-05 11:49 AM   #9 
   Senator Leahy  cali   Jan-04-05 11:59 AM   #11 
      Exactly. Which is why I keep harping on these talking points because  Amaryllis   Jan-04-05 12:14 PM   #20 
   another important point to tell Leahy and others  nmoliver   Jan-04-05 11:58 AM   #10 
   I think it was a big mistake for Gore to ask them not to contest  Cheswick2.0   Jan-04-05 12:00 PM   #13 
   This Sucks! What Is Wrong With Them?  OrangeCountyDemocrat   Jan-04-05 12:00 PM   #12 
   they are too comfortable in their jobs  Cheswick2.0   Jan-04-05 12:01 PM   #14 
   They have no hard evidence of a widespread fraud conspiracy  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:14 PM   #21 
   how do you go about getting such evidence ...  nmoliver   Jan-04-05 12:25 PM   #24 
   FACT: There will be no Senators contesting the results of the election  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:32 PM   #28 
   Nice declaratives! Now ANSWER HIS QUESTION.  kgfnally   Jan-04-05 01:46 PM   #59 
   No source code at all. No computer tabulation or counting at all.  Zan_of_Texas   Jan-05-05 12:02 AM   #90 
      In Ohio, in Franklin county, the voters had to make 100+ choices  SicTransit   Jan-05-05 12:37 AM   #92 
         Well, I guess we should ask Ottawa how they do it.  Zan_of_Texas   Jan-05-05 01:23 AM   #99 
            Canadians do not have as many things on the ballot as  SicTransit   Jan-05-05 01:34 AM   #102 
               I see you have posted other dog sh*t elsewhere, sic.  Zan_of_Texas   Jan-05-05 11:01 PM   #107 
   and you know this ..........how?  bunny planet   Jan-04-05 01:51 PM   #61 
   Wrong!  ConstitutionGuy   Jan-04-05 07:07 PM   #80 
   Prove to me there was no election fraud. Prove it!  katinmn   Jan-04-05 01:59 PM   #66 
   What did you see ?  euler   Jan-04-05 04:09 PM   #75 
   Used to like your posts  DemonFighterLives   Jan-05-05 12:57 AM   #96 
   Nothing gets my dander up more  cali   Jan-04-05 12:14 PM   #22 
   Uggggg!  hootinholler   Jan-04-05 12:05 PM   #15 
   Called Florida officials  ocnbcsurf   Jan-04-05 12:08 PM   #16 
   more like diebold has spoken  roenyc   Jan-04-05 12:51 PM   #47 
   Leahy is doing the right thing  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:09 PM   #17 
   What power & influence will be lost?  merh   Jan-04-05 12:14 PM   #19 
   Any Senator that contests loses  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:31 PM   #27 
   All dems are on the blocks - if they aren't then they are not doing  merh   Jan-04-05 12:43 PM   #37 
   I'm sorry but if these people don't stand up now they won't be  genieroze   Jan-04-05 12:43 PM   #39 
   The Democratic party is already severely marginalized. They have nothing  bunny planet   Jan-04-05 01:54 PM   #62 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-04-05 12:35 PM   #31 
      Walt Starr is just being a realist  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:36 PM   #32 
         This goes way beyond politics, and I'm sorry you don't see that. eom  femme.democratique   Jan-04-05 12:40 PM   #34 
         Nope, it's a purely partisan issue  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:41 PM   #36 
            It is partisan because the repugs have the art of election theft  merh   Jan-04-05 12:44 PM   #40 
            It's partisan  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:46 PM   #43 
               My ass, the exit polls do not show that at all!  merh   Jan-04-05 12:49 PM   #45 
                  Exit polls ARE MEANINGLESS  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:49 PM   #46 
                     Oh, that's right, they only mean something if they were favorable  merh   Jan-04-05 12:59 PM   #50 
                     There was overwhelming corroborative evidence of fraud in the Ukraine  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 01:13 PM   #53 
                        And what was that evidence?  merh   Jan-04-05 01:23 PM   #56 
                           I believe if you look back at the Venezuelan exit polls, the  Doctor O   Jan-04-05 02:39 PM   #69 
                           I'm sorry, where is the evidence, separate from the polls?  merh   Jan-04-05 03:06 PM   #71 
                              hmmmmmm  merh   Jan-04-05 04:30 PM   #76 
                                 Proof Is Here  Doctor O   Jan-04-05 06:51 PM   #79 
                                 And if you need proof for that statement on Carter  Doctor O   Jan-04-05 07:09 PM   #81 
                                    Go find his statement about the U.S. elections. Find where he  merh   Jan-04-05 07:18 PM   #83 
                                       Yes I have seen many  Doctor O   Jan-04-05 08:06 PM   #86 
                                       Oh, and your posts have been so pleasant and informative.  merh   Jan-04-05 10:17 PM   #88 
                                       Here is hard evidence of fraud in Ukraine -  SicTransit   Jan-05-05 01:04 AM   #97 
                                       This is not evidence, this is conjecture.  merh   Jan-05-05 01:17 AM   #98 
                                       how about the other violations, such as  SicTransit   Jan-05-05 01:25 AM   #100 
                                       The question is proof as to who is responsible.  merh   Jan-05-05 10:23 AM   #103 
                                       Here's ya some reading!  merh   Jan-05-05 11:44 AM   #106 
                           Here you go - hard evidence of fraud in Ukraine  SicTransit   Jan-05-05 12:41 AM   #93 
                     What, you don't like what the exit polls actually reflect?  merh   Jan-04-05 01:38 PM   #57 
                     Right, they only mean something in Ukraine.  bunny planet   Jan-04-05 01:56 PM   #64 
                        see post #93 n/t  SicTransit   Jan-05-05 12:42 AM   #94 
            Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-04-05 12:45 PM   #42 
               Thanks for the personal attack  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:46 PM   #44 
               Hey Walt,  cali   Jan-04-05 01:01 PM   #51 
               Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-04-05 01:15 PM   #54 
         Realist is not the first word that comes to mind.  bunny planet   Jan-04-05 01:55 PM   #63 
   Power and influence? Over who? Please....YOU'RE delusional if..  femme.democratique   Jan-04-05 12:33 PM   #29 
   Power and influence of the individual Senators  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:34 PM   #30 
      Their careers WILL be devastated, but not by challenging the election...  femme.democratique   Jan-04-05 12:39 PM   #33 
      Sorry, the numbers disagree with you  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:41 PM   #35 
         18% of 100 mil+? So how many millions is that? Almost 20 mil?  femme.democratique   Jan-04-05 12:43 PM   #38 
         Okay, say they placate that 18%  Walt Starr   Jan-04-05 12:44 PM   #41 
            Was the 18% the number who thought there was widespread  Doctor O   Jan-04-05 12:54 PM   #48 
         and WHERE can they hear anything about POSSIBLE problems????  bobbieinok   Jan-04-05 07:54 PM   #85 
      I'd say that the * administrations plan for one-party government will do  bunny planet   Jan-04-05 01:58 PM   #65 
      More to the point  PATRICK   Jan-04-05 03:44 PM   #73 
   Gloomy Gus strikes again...  8_year_nightmare   Jan-04-05 02:13 PM   #68 
   Leahy was the recipient of an anthrax  LibDemAlways   Jan-04-05 12:13 PM   #18 
   What utter bullshit.  cali   Jan-04-05 12:18 PM   #23 
      I'm not trying to attack Leahy  LibDemAlways   Jan-04-05 12:30 PM   #26 
      Leahy has always fought for what he thinks is right without  Doctor O   Jan-04-05 02:46 PM   #70 
   Would you guys please stop attacking each other and look at the  Amaryllis   Jan-04-05 12:29 PM   #25 
   Kickit  joevoter   Jan-04-05 12:57 PM   #49 
   "I have no intention of contesting the results of the election."  KansDem   Jan-04-05 01:38 PM   #58 
   If election fraud isn't stopped, there will  LibDemAlways   Jan-04-05 02:09 PM   #67 
   Kick him out. Find someone better to run in the primary.  Padme Amidala   Jan-04-05 03:58 PM   #74 
   The LAST thing we need is more actors in politics  slackmaster   Jan-04-05 04:36 PM   #77 
   You've just demonstrated your stunning ignorance  cali   Jan-04-05 07:34 PM   #84 
   kick!  8_year_nightmare   Jan-04-05 08:37 PM   #87 
   Thank you for a constructive post!  Dancing_Dave   Jan-04-05 10:25 PM   #89 
   Thank you so much for noticing the point of the post! I felt it was  Amaryllis   Jan-05-05 10:36 AM   #104 
   I think that Senator Leahy is missing the point, it is us he needs to be  GetTheRightVote   Jan-05-05 12:30 AM   #91 
   Say it ain't so, Leahy  Ronbrynaert   Jan-05-05 12:44 AM   #95 
   is this the loser Cheney cursed?  malatesta1137   Jan-05-05 01:31 AM   #101 
      You're absolutely right, malatesta1137...  Peace Patriot   Jan-05-05 10:51 AM   #105 
 

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