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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:01 PM
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37. That's what I thought but wanted to be sure. So, in other words, it is
Edited on Sat Jan-01-05 10:03 PM by McCamy Taylor
like a doctor is being sued, and he alters the patient's records before sending them to the lawyer but doesnt realize that the patient (at the urging of her lawyer) got a copy of them a few weeks before, and so now the real records are there along with the forged records, making it clear 1. what the doctor really did, 2. that the doctor attempted fraud and 3, that the doctor had better settle because he has just committed a major professional no no.


Is there a similar ethic when it comes to the sociologic statistical sciences? If this were an academic paper and the author was caught fudging his facts he would be in major hot water.

Who is this Mitfosky guy? Does he pretend to have an academic reputation? Maybe the academic world should take him on, chatise him for being unprofessional.
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  -Simon: To Those Awaiting Prelim Analysis of Exit Polling.... understandinglife  Jan-01-05 02:48 AM   #0 
  - In relation to the where is the missing data....  althecat   Jan-01-05 03:01 AM   #1 
  - Wonder why? ;-) (n/t)  understandinglife   Jan-01-05 03:04 AM   #2 
  - Didn't they say they had a computer crash right before they were about  Pirate Smile   Jan-01-05 12:53 PM   #18 
     - Just Read about the "COMPUTER CRASH" - article from 11/4/04  Lauri   Jan-01-05 09:43 PM   #34 
        - No one on DU likes this theory  Bill Bored   Jan-01-05 09:58 PM   #36 
        - Why would it be assumed that the data after the crash was real?  Lauri   Jan-01-05 11:25 PM   #47 
        - GOP base always votes, cant squeeze more blood from a turnip  McCamy Taylor   Jan-01-05 11:38 PM   #52 
           - This argument is more compelling to me.  davidgmills   Jan-02-05 11:45 AM   #72 
        - History of Computer Crashes  stirringstill   Jan-02-05 12:25 AM   #60 
        - The "Computer Crash" story is very hard to believe  nodictators   Jan-02-05 11:43 AM   #71 
  - We were screwed. And a very happy New Year to you.  missouri dem 2   Jan-01-05 03:09 AM   #3 
  - Excellent data- if Kerry or Hillary do not object 1/6, they are dead as to  papau   Jan-01-05 09:03 AM   #4 
  - I still think Hillary won't run  Clark2008   Jan-01-05 10:02 AM   #6 
  - Thank you for sharing this email  Bill of Rights   Jan-01-05 09:28 AM   #5 
  - Have you sent this to Scoop in new zealand??  berniew1   Jan-01-05 10:56 AM   #7 
  - I haven't but I imagine Simon has shared it with all the ....  understandinglife   Jan-01-05 11:46 AM   #14 
  - Look up: he's right above you in post #1.  bleever   Jan-01-05 02:12 PM   #25 
  - Scoop-in-New-Zealand posted in the very first response above (n/t)  IndyOp   Jan-01-05 02:28 PM   #27 
  - Washington Post exit polls with 13,047 respondents:  k8conant   Jan-01-05 11:15 AM   #8 
  - Thank you once again  Quakerfriend   Jan-01-05 11:20 AM   #9 
  - Thank you once again  Quakerfriend   Jan-01-05 11:20 AM   #10 
  - Can there be a class action suit against Mitofsky  liam97   Jan-01-05 11:26 AM   #11 
  - Mitofsky answers only to his clients...  k8conant   Jan-01-05 11:40 AM   #12 
  - Yes, but Mitosfsky is not a feudal lord  liam97   Jan-01-05 11:49 AM   #15 
     - freedom of the press?  mulethree   Jan-01-05 12:59 PM   #19 
        - I'll readily admit that I'm no constitutional expert, but...  RevCheesehead   Jan-02-05 12:16 AM   #57 
           - R U alleging that the Re-uglicans are BLACKMAILING the press/MSM?  The Judged   Jan-02-05 01:10 AM   #62 
              - No, not at all.  RevCheesehead   Jan-02-05 01:34 AM   #66 
                 - AP is said to have had direct access to the vote count. Rumor has it ...  The Judged   Jan-02-05 02:19 AM   #67 
  - Re: Potential Class action lawsuit  safari   Jan-01-05 11:57 PM   #55 
     - My take on hte subject from another thread  davidgmills   Jan-02-05 02:59 PM   #80 
  - You're welcome. The referenced screen shot...  understandinglife   Jan-01-05 11:45 AM   #13 
  - Thank you UL -- I hope some of this adds some perspective  Time for change   Jan-01-05 12:08 PM   #16 
  - "Are we to believe  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jan-01-05 12:41 PM   #17 
  - Thank you for posting this and....  understandinglife   Jan-01-05 01:23 PM   #20 
     - Thank you so much for posting this!  dzika   Jan-01-05 01:32 PM   #22 
  - Tautology Is All They've Had Since 2001  corbett   Jan-01-05 01:30 PM   #21 
  - Um I think the word you seek is sophistry not tautology N/T  hootinholler   Jan-01-05 02:22 PM   #26 
  - From the DU archives, some relevant posts from 2-3 Nov 2004:  understandinglife   Jan-01-05 02:07 PM   #23 
  - Wonderful links  MelissaB   Jan-01-05 02:11 PM   #24 
  - backstory?  FreepFryer   Jan-01-05 04:57 PM   #28 
  - kick  scubed   Jan-01-05 08:19 PM   #29 
  - Hi Jonathon and UL thought you guys and maybe TIA  Melissa G   Jan-01-05 08:53 PM   #30 
  - Regarding FL in 2000: Here are the references you request  understandinglife   Jan-01-05 09:24 PM   #31 
  - Thanks UL! I am going to email this to Freeman  Melissa G   Jan-01-05 09:38 PM   #33 
  - UL, is this the one published on 9/12/01 by the NYT?  Bill Bored   Jan-01-05 10:14 PM   #40 
  - I don't have answers readily available to your questions...  understandinglife   Jan-02-05 01:24 AM   #64 
     - Hi Understanding life ,TFC , Steven Freeman sent a thank you  Melissa G   Jan-03-05 11:21 PM   #104 
  - THEY NEVER COUNTED THE 110K OVERVOTES. GORE WON THEM 75K-35K  TruthIsAll   Jan-03-05 12:00 AM   #96 
  - I don't have a website address, but I do have books on the subject  Time for change   Jan-01-05 10:13 PM   #38 
     - Thanks Time for Change! n/t  Melissa G   Jan-01-05 11:53 PM   #53 
        - Let me know if you're interested in any of those references  Time for change   Jan-02-05 07:07 AM   #68 
  - I am so confused, can some one spell out to me what this means?  McCamy Taylor   Jan-01-05 09:33 PM   #32 
  - Among other things, it shows that the final PUBLISHED exit polls  IndyPriest   Jan-01-05 09:50 PM   #35 
  - That's what I thought but wanted to be sure. So, in other words, it is  McCamy Taylor   Jan-01-05 10:01 PM   #37 
     - Very good analogy!  IndyPriest   Jan-01-05 10:18 PM   #41 
  - I will try  BeFree   Jan-01-05 10:13 PM   #39 
  - This info conveniently disappeared in Mitofsky's computer malfunction  Lauri   Jan-01-05 10:20 PM   #42 
  - Sounds better than "My dog ate it"  McCamy Taylor   Jan-01-05 11:25 PM   #48 
     - Not all Professionals Sell Out - There is Hope  Lauri   Jan-01-05 11:37 PM   #51 
  - You guys kick ass!!!!  go west young man   Jan-01-05 10:27 PM   #43 
  - Election night scenario...could timing be a smoking gun?  1democracy   Jan-02-05 12:16 AM   #58 
     - 2 things  anamandujano   Jan-02-05 05:05 PM   #84 
        - Reply  1democracy   Jan-02-05 05:13 PM   #85 
           - edit--Okay, right here  anamandujano   Jan-02-05 05:26 PM   #87 
  - You don't get it  Nederland   Jan-01-05 10:51 PM   #44 
  - That''s why the Greens and Libertarians are in Federal Court trying  McCamy Taylor   Jan-01-05 10:57 PM   #46 
  - Question - did I read somewhere that Blackwell  sickinohio   Jan-02-05 10:25 AM   #69 
  - Get this  BeFree   Jan-01-05 11:28 PM   #49 
  - Everything we need is "proprietary"--the softwear of Diebold machines  McCamy Taylor   Jan-01-05 11:34 PM   #50 
     - Secrets all  BeFree   Jan-01-05 11:54 PM   #54 
  - What Congress Needs and What the Court Needs are not the same  davidgmills   Jan-02-05 11:38 AM   #70 
  - Nonsense  Nederland   Jan-02-05 06:34 PM   #88 
     - I'm sorry but that wouldn't be the testimony.  davidgmills   Jan-02-05 06:48 PM   #89 
     - That would not be the testimony>  davidgmills   Jan-02-05 06:58 PM   #91 
        - You are so wrong  Nederland   Jan-02-05 08:31 PM   #92 
        - More  Nederland   Jan-02-05 08:42 PM   #93 
           - You obviously have no clue how lawsuits work  davidgmills   Jan-02-05 10:06 PM   #95 
              - Challenge  Nederland   Jan-03-05 10:44 AM   #98 
                 - You missed the whole point of the argument.  davidgmills   Jan-03-05 07:47 PM   #100 
                    - Irrelevant  Nederland   Jan-03-05 09:01 PM   #101 
                       - You do not understand the burden of proof  davidgmills   Jan-03-05 09:40 PM   #103 
                          - Irrelevant  Nederland   Jan-04-05 10:18 PM   #105 
                             - First Of All You Obviously Know Nothing About Court  davidgmills   Jan-05-05 02:00 AM   #106 
                                - You still don't get it  Nederland   Jan-05-05 12:00 PM   #108 
  - Hold a sec. I don't think we know all that Conyers has found  IndyPriest   Jan-02-05 02:19 PM   #77 
  - It's a little involved, but Proof is Right There  jwmealy   Jan-03-05 09:18 PM   #102 
  - I can guess what Mitofsky has been promised...  McCamy Taylor   Jan-01-05 10:56 PM   #45 
  - When the other side puts Mitofsky on the stand to testify...  euler   Jan-02-05 12:05 AM   #56 
  - Humor me as I think this through... timing a smoking gun?  1democracy   Jan-02-05 12:22 AM   #59 
  - Excellent post!  Bill of Rights   Jan-02-05 01:55 PM   #74 
  - You may find these DU archive links of interest  understandinglife   Jan-02-05 02:09 PM   #76 
     - Graphs of popular vote-- is there more info there?  1democracy   Jan-02-05 04:40 PM   #82 
  - OK, I think I understand your point - that manipulated poll data is not a  RevCheesehead   Jan-02-05 12:33 AM   #61 
  - If the polls were changed to match crime induced results, then ....  The Judged   Jan-02-05 01:18 AM   #63 
  - it's called COVERUP n/t  anamandujano   Jan-02-05 05:20 PM   #86 
  - Have you reviewed Mitofsky's work?  nodictators   Jan-02-05 12:37 PM   #73 
  - Mitofsky himself has said that exit polls protect against fraud.  pointsoflight   Jan-02-05 02:06 PM   #75 
  - Mitofsky May Have Started the Business  davidgmills   Jan-02-05 02:39 PM   #78 
  - As I said, I doesn't matter what your or I think about Mitofsky.  euler   Jan-03-05 12:15 AM   #97 
  - euler: a semi-technical question....  IndyPriest   Jan-02-05 02:44 PM   #79 
  - Movieweb: Nov 4th, 2004  Patsy Stone   Jan-02-05 01:33 AM   #65 
  - "Explanations" of Exit Poll Discrepancies  ExpatriateTexan   Jan-02-05 04:38 PM   #81 
  - Help for the statistically challenged?  super simian   Jan-02-05 04:59 PM   #83 
  - "Weighted" and "corrected." Good questions.  IndyPriest   Jan-02-05 06:54 PM   #90 
     - Yep!  super simian   Jan-02-05 09:09 PM   #94 
  - Perhaps I'm missing something....  formernaderite   Jan-03-05 11:11 AM   #99 
  - Last kick for the night, and for the Knights who say "Nay!"  bleever   Jan-05-05 02:14 AM   #107 
 

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