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Wed Dec-29-04 11:21 AM
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| 129. No....it's a terrible time. The loss of Hope and Trust in our System of |
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Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 11:23 AM by KoKo01
Governing. The loss of Hope and Trust in our Legal System, Financial Institutions, our Constitution and Bill of Rights. It's a terrible time....the worst in our History internally because we should know better by now having already gone through a Civil War and a World War plus other "engagements" which ended in sorrow and recrimination like Vietnam. I agree with this article posted here, which perhaps resulted in your more optimistic post as counter?  --------------------------- http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... What about the worst year in the last 100? 1963 and 1968 were bad, as were all the late years of the Vietnam War. The difference was that there was hope in all those years, and at least the illusion that, despite everything, the United States was still a democracy with a government that believed that public policy could improve the lives of its citizens. The year 2004 saw the second crooked Presidential election in a row, with the degree - tens of thousands of recorded incidents - and systematic nature - by computers which intentionally lack evidence which could be used to judge the fairness of the voting - of the fraud unprecedented in American, and probably world, history. But that's not the worst part. The worst part is that it has become fashionable, even amongst those who call themselves liberals, not to complain, and even to belittle those people who are concerned by calling them conspiracy theorists. If it wasn't for the yeoman work of John Conyers, this whole sordid incident would have been swept under the rug <...> The Republicans are now so expert in perpetrating this kind of massive fraud, and there is so little opposition to it <...>http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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| -This is a great time to be alive |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 01:52 AM |
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Right on, William!!! |
NVMojo |
Dec-29-04 01:54 AM |
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I know not where others stand, for me give me liberty or give me death! |
In Truth We Trust |
Dec-29-04 01:54 AM |
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Yeah! right on, in truth we trust!!! Liberty is ultimate! |
NVMojo |
Dec-29-04 01:58 AM |
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good God |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 01:55 AM |
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Came to do the short-sentence parade rain, eh? |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 01:58 AM |
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Forkboy may just be a wee bit constipated ...got laxatives?? |
NVMojo |
Dec-29-04 02:00 AM |
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nah |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 02:03 AM |
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Your righteousness inspires us all |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:07 AM |
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More reason for you to be so excited! |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 02:17 AM |
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Or |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:25 AM |
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*crickets* |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:43 AM |
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No,actually writing out a thoughtful (hopefully) response |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 02:50 AM |
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And as you see,I'm more than willing to do more than snipe and flee |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 02:47 AM |
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That was actually |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 03:07 AM |
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Peace sounds good |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 03:18 AM |
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For whatever it is worth |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 03:22 AM |
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I'm sorry. |
Raksha |
Dec-29-04 04:14 AM |
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I wasn't offended Raksha |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 07:54 AM |
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My condolences |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 03:24 AM |
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Thank you |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 03:41 AM |
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Well then |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 03:44 AM |
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Oh, and P.S, |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 03:25 AM |
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Like you've never! |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 03:30 AM |
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LOL |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 03:41 AM |
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Well said |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 03:21 AM |
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I snarked at you?? |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 03:22 AM |
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I don't remember the details |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 03:28 AM |
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Ahhhhh |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 03:32 AM |
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I'm a relative newbie here... |
Raksha |
Dec-29-04 02:58 AM |
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Your immediate take would be wrong |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 03:06 AM |
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Sometimes a good scolding is in order |
seito |
Dec-29-04 03:17 AM |
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Sometimes it is |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 03:19 AM |
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I didn't read the whole thread when I posted that. |
Raksha |
Dec-29-04 04:05 AM |
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Glad you caveated that one |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 04:19 AM |
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self delete. |
henslee |
Dec-29-04 06:54 AM |
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made me think of - |
selmo7 |
Dec-29-04 10:03 AM |
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yeah, what's the point? we should shut down du and all jump off a cliff |
freeplessinseattle |
Dec-29-04 02:26 AM |
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Not at all |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 02:50 AM |
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Hey Freepless!!! |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 03:29 AM |
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Darn, you must have gone to bed |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 03:39 AM |
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Who said anything about FUN? |
lapislzi |
Dec-29-04 11:42 AM |
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projection? |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 02:01 AM |
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beets? |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:02 AM |
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Dec-29-04 02:04 AM |
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Hm |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:07 AM |
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Just my opinion |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 02:09 AM |
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Fair enough |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:12 AM |
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And that's fair enough as well |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 02:19 AM |
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So why are you here? |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:33 AM |
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*crickets* |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:44 AM |
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I dont need to work myself up |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 02:57 AM |
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*crickets* |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 03:00 AM |
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LOL...post 70 |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 03:08 AM |
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see it....sorry |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 03:20 AM |
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Dec-29-04 02:22 AM |
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I love you too |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-04 02:23 AM |
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I thought in some respects I was being kinda funny. I need to reevaluate |
xultar |
Dec-29-04 02:30 AM |
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In search of a heart. |
jswill |
Dec-29-04 02:00 PM |
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"May You Live in Interesting Times" |
4morewars |
Dec-29-04 01:55 AM |
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It's definitely a blurse! n/t |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 02:53 AM |
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Bizarre peace with very happy times |
Neoma |
Dec-29-04 01:55 AM |
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Oh your SOX won though..... |
jus_the_facts |
Dec-29-04 01:56 AM |
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Yeah Mon...thangs do change, indeed |
OKthatsIT |
Dec-29-04 02:27 AM |
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So did Kerry, BTW. n/t |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 04:21 AM |
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our time |
suffragette |
Dec-29-04 01:58 AM |
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Here, here, Will. |
Kensingtonian |
Dec-29-04 02:00 AM |
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Fine |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:02 AM |
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What else did you get? |
housewolf |
Dec-29-04 02:07 AM |
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A book on Shakespeare |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:08 AM |
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Hey, you did good then! |
housewolf |
Dec-29-04 02:16 AM |
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Hrmmm |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:18 AM |
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No daughter |
housewolf |
Dec-29-04 02:22 AM |
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Glad to hear it |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:26 AM |
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I'm so glad |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 02:54 AM |
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Since there isn't anything we can do about the time in history |
illflem |
Dec-29-04 02:00 AM |
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A subtle Chinese curse is reputed to be: |
pnorman |
Dec-29-04 02:04 AM |
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interesting times is a CURSE |
Old Mouse |
Dec-29-04 02:11 AM |
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You wanted an illusion? |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:14 AM |
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To die with the illusion intact |
Old Mouse |
Dec-29-04 02:21 AM |
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To die with the illusion intact |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:27 AM |
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More, I think. There's been a collective decision to stand and |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-29-04 02:32 AM |
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It's all illusion |
Old Mouse |
Dec-29-04 05:26 AM |
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I hope my mother never hoped that for me |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 02:58 AM |
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Exactly |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 03:13 AM |
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My greatest fear... |
mordarlar |
Dec-29-04 06:16 AM |
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Peace Patriot, bravo for the truth in your words - Pravda n/t |
FloridaCrat |
Dec-29-04 08:47 AM |
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I would prefer to not have to do battle |
seito |
Dec-29-04 02:13 AM |
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At no time in history has the future been secure |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:16 AM |
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If we were so damn secure, why did they keep making me get |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-29-04 02:24 AM |
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Fair enough |
seito |
Dec-29-04 02:35 AM |
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"I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened." |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:37 AM |
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Here's to the good fight |
seito |
Dec-29-04 02:39 AM |
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Indeed |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:39 AM |
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"The day may come |
housewolf |
Dec-29-04 02:50 AM |
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mmm.... :) Aragorn n/t |
mordarlar |
Dec-29-04 06:28 AM |
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"Always after a defeat and a respite, the Shadow |
Crunchy Frog |
Dec-29-04 03:06 AM |
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Exactly! |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 03:00 AM |
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Dammit our grandparents already won these battles! |
preciousdove |
Dec-29-04 02:14 AM |
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Lack of sleep |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-29-04 02:27 AM |
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I understand. |
murielm99 |
Dec-29-04 04:31 AM |
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I hear you, muriel... |
Joolz |
Dec-29-04 05:53 AM |
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We're still up at this hour? |
gumby |
Dec-29-04 02:45 AM |
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You are a romantic, just like me |
tavalon |
Dec-29-04 02:47 AM |
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Spoken like a true warrior. Thank you!!! |
Raksha |
Dec-29-04 02:52 AM |
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Reminds me of an old Chinese CURSE: |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-29-04 03:25 AM |
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Um.... i really liked the 60's early 70's |
roenyc |
Dec-29-04 04:34 AM |
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History is tapping us on the shoulder... |
Peace Patriot |
Dec-29-04 05:42 AM |
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Peace Patriot |
La Femme |
Dec-29-04 06:05 AM |
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Well said, Peace Patriot... thanks. |
Joolz |
Dec-29-04 06:17 AM |
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Peace Patriot - Can I Use This? |
Blue Christmas |
Dec-29-04 12:07 PM |
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A little romantic and melodramatic don't you think..... |
Not a Sheep |
Dec-29-04 06:01 AM |
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Wars, rumors of wars, and tsunamis |
demga |
Dec-29-04 06:02 AM |
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Agreed |
roenyc |
Dec-29-04 06:30 AM |
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I think it's a horrible time to live. |
The Flaming Red Head |
Dec-29-04 06:36 AM |
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Grab a shovel |
Mr.Green93 |
Dec-29-04 06:45 AM |
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This is a good time to be awake, |
KaliTracy |
Dec-29-04 06:49 AM |
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Back in the days |
bluedonkey |
Dec-29-04 06:50 AM |
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Great message, WP! |
Chimpanzee |
Dec-29-04 06:53 AM |
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I can imagine your same "take" being had by citizens during the French |
henslee |
Dec-29-04 07:15 AM |
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Will...off topic...are you working on another book? What's it about? n/t |
truthpusher |
Dec-29-04 07:40 AM |
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I think I much prefer now over getting burned at the stake... |
JD Lau |
Dec-29-04 07:46 AM |
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May you be blessed to live in boring times. |
sportndandy |
Dec-29-04 07:46 AM |
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Personally, I'd settle for boring |
babylonsister |
Dec-29-04 09:30 AM |
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Thank you for your constant inspiration, Will Pitt. |
FloridaCrat |
Dec-29-04 07:48 AM |
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Thank you, all of you, for this inspiring thread. |
scubed |
Dec-29-04 08:44 AM |
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Ted Sorenson |
nomatrix |
Dec-29-04 06:20 PM |
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thanks for the info nomatrix - love your DU name! |
FloridaCrat |
Dec-30-04 11:03 AM |
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Ask me again on my deathbed. |
SmokingJacket |
Dec-29-04 09:25 AM |
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I would rather live in a time... |
Orsino |
Dec-29-04 09:53 AM |
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This is a difficult time to be alive |
HomerRamone |
Dec-29-04 10:43 AM |
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Will, I too disagree |
liam97 |
Dec-29-04 10:52 AM |
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I disagree, also |
driver8 |
Dec-29-04 07:31 PM |
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Kick.......... |
KoKo01 |
Dec-29-04 11:57 AM |
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Kick.......... |
KoKo01 |
Dec-29-04 02:45 PM |
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Kick! |
LongTomH |
Dec-29-04 10:55 AM |
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Is this a great time to be alive ? |
SueZhope |
Dec-29-04 11:05 AM |
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No....it's a terrible time. The loss of Hope and Trust in our System of |
KoKo01 |
Dec-29-04 11:21 AM |
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you can have my civil Liberties when you pry them from cold dead hands |
FogerRox |
Dec-29-04 11:21 AM |
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I agree, I want very much to fight and struggle to get my country back and |
bunny planet |
Dec-29-04 11:45 AM |
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1890 |
Gregorian |
Dec-29-04 12:12 PM |
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agreed |
blindpig |
Dec-29-04 02:26 PM |
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Testosterone may be addictive, but it can also be |
JoMama49 |
Dec-29-04 12:17 PM |
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Best post from you yet, Will |
wendypan |
Dec-29-04 02:16 PM |
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umm... |
area51 |
Dec-29-04 02:44 PM |
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From a different angle |
PATRICK |
Dec-29-04 02:52 PM |
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Reminds me of Orson Wells' speech in "The Third Man..." |
KansDem |
Dec-29-04 03:31 PM |
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I think we should show our dissent by writing |
kitkat65 |
Dec-29-04 06:26 PM |
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You're a great writer, Will. n/t |
Pooka Fey |
Dec-29-04 06:29 PM |
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With all due respect |
rzemanfl |
Dec-29-04 06:39 PM |
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I'm thankful to be alive now, because of |
nomatrix |
Dec-29-04 06:46 PM |
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Ditto... |
drdon326 |
Dec-30-04 05:44 AM |
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I partially agree with you |
Time for change |
Dec-29-04 08:33 PM |
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