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George Bush's 8 Million New Votes Found – A STATISTICAL ANALYSIS
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George Bush's 8 Million New Votes Found – STATISTICAL ANALYSIS


By Alastair Thompson - Co-Editor http://scoop.co.nz
(exclusively so far.. on DU..)

In an earlier thread I discussed the issue of Where Did * Suddenly Get 8 Million New Voters.... To recap this is important because:

"If you think about it , had the Bush Cheney campaign really signed up 8 million odd new republican voters... wouldn't they have been telling us about it for the past six months. Yelling it on the front page of every newspaper. Somewhere in the election statistics is the answer to a simple question. Where were Bush's 8 million new voters..-. find them and you find where this election was stolen.


WHAT I DID
Noticing that nobody was really taking a lot of notice of my ramblings I decided to take a closer look. The raw data is below and I will post an excel spreadsheet of this online soon so people can fill in the gaps (this is really a bit of a work in progress as is the DU tradition). I picked and chose my states on the basis of where I thought it likely that the votes came from and stopped when I got to 90% of the vote difference this only took 31 states.

FINDINGS

1. Bush did not pick up any vote at all on the West Coast.. in fact he lost ground in both Washington and California. This is interesting as this is arguably where the BBV machine manufacturers have been receiving the most heat. However it could reflect a relative lack of interest in so-called "moral issues" out west.

2. The five states I picked on the basis that they are known to have lots of voting machines (and particularly Diebold machines) had a significantly higher percentage increase in bush voters than average… 25% compared to 17% nationally.

3. Likewise the swing states also had a higher average rate of new bush voters at 21%. This however might be expected as they also had much more active campaigns.

4. Among the 31 states I examined were three big democratic states NY, NJ and IL. I selected them on a hunch because a) they are unlikely to be suspected of being used in a vote rigging exercise, but b) necessary to include if you want to achieve a large across the board popular vote gain that does not look too suspicious. These three states averaged a 21% vote gains for Bush and NJ and NY achieved around 25%. However between them they contributed 1.7 million new bush votes, or nearly 20% of Bush's total vote gain.

5. The remainder of my selection of states is broadly defined as "red states", they averaged 20% in terms of voting gain for bush. Notably both Kansas and Utah achieved % gains for bush below the national average. I am guessing here but I would have thought both states were "moral issue" based voter heavy.

DISTRIBUTION OF THE VOTES

6. In sheer numeric terms Bush gained far and away the most votes in Texas and Florida, 900k and 700k respectively.

7. 60% of all Bushes new votes, 5.2 million votes, were gained in just 11 states…FL, TX. NY, OH, PA, GA, MI, NJ, TN, NC, IL

8. Add in another 8 states and you get to 82% of all bush's new votes or 7.1 million… the states are WI MN IND AL OK KY AZ LOU & MD

9. Put another way 7.1 million votes or 82% of bushes gain was achieved in states totalling 65% of the popular vote. Within these states he achieved an average vote gain of an astonishing 23%.

10. 92% of the vote gain is found in the 31 states I selected data for.

11. The rate of bush vote growth in the remaining 20 states was just 5% on average.

12. In percentage terms Florida and Georgia (both heavily Diebold equipment using states) were the standouts with 32% gains respectively.

13. In percentage terms five other states showed more than 25% growth in the bush vote, in ascending order they were Arizona, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Tennessee. Of these AZ, NM and OK both recently upgraded their machines to new tech machines. NJ and TN also both use computerised voting machines, albeit older models.

CLICK HERE TO SEE WHICH MACHINES ARE USED WHERE – VerifiedVoting.Org's Verifier

RAW DATA FOLLOWS


SOURCES
2000 Results Via CNN
2004 Results Via C-Span

2004 --|-- 2000 --|-- difference --|-- % --|-- increase --|--

GWB'S TOTAL VOTE INCREASE
National --|-- 59117523 --|-- 50456169 --|-- 8661354 --|-- 0.171660952 --|--

WHERE THE NEW VOTES CAME FROM BROKEN DOWN

Diebold & ES&S States (where the equipment is – i.e. because you can)

GA --|-- 1867988 --|-- 1416085 --|-- 451903 --|-- 0.31912138 --|--
OK --|-- 959655 --|-- 744335 --|-- 215320 --|-- 0.289278349 --|--
AZ --|-- 905379 --|-- 715112 --|-- 190267 --|-- 0.266066015 --|--
MD --|-- 936505 --|-- 770911 --|-- 165594 --|-- 0.214803006 --|--
TX --|-- 4495797 --|-- 3796850 --|-- 698947 --|-- 0.184086019 --|--

SUBTOTAL --|-- 1722031 --|-- 0.254670954 --|--

Big Democratic States (where no one will look – and where you can pad the popular vote)

NJ --|-- 1587494 --|-- 1253791 --|-- 333703 --|-- 0.266155204 --|--
NY --|-- 2780749 --|-- 2235776 --|-- 544973 --|-- 0.243751163 --|--
IL --|-- 2313415 --|-- 2019256 --|-- 294159 --|-- 0.145676923 --|--

SUBTOTAL --|-- 1172835 --|-- 0.218527763 --|--

Swing States (logical place… where campaign was & where you want to win)

FL --|-- 3838376 --|-- 2909176 --|-- 929200 --|-- 0.319403157 --|--
NM --|-- 364569 --|-- 286417 --|-- 78152 --|-- 0.272860899 --|--
OH --|-- 2796147 --|-- 2294167 --|-- 501980 --|-- 0.218807088 --|--
PA --|-- 2748900 --|-- 2264309 --|-- 484591 --|-- 0.214012752 --|--
MN --|-- 1345168 --|-- 1110290 --|-- 234878 --|-- 0.211546533 --|--
NH --|-- 330848 --|-- 273135 --|-- 57713 --|-- 0.211298442 --|--
WI --|-- 1477122 --|-- 1235035 --|-- 242087 --|-- 0.196016307 --|--
MI --|-- 2306259 --|-- 1947100 --|-- 359159 --|-- 0.184458425 --|--
IO --|-- 745734 --|-- 634225 --|-- 111509 --|-- 0.175819307 --|--
CO --|-- 1017322 --|-- 884047 --|-- 133275 --|-- 0.150755559 --|--

SUBTOTAL --|-- 3132544 --|-- 0.215497847 --|--

(not really a swing state.. but with odd exit poll and VP candidate )

NC --|-- 1919903 --|-- 1607238 --|-- 312665 --|-- 0.194535595 --|--

CONTROVERSIAL BBV STATES (remarkable because of an absence of new bush votes – too risky)

(BevHarris's)WA --|-- 921543 --|-- 1101621 --|-- -180078 --|-- -0.163466383 --|--
(KevinShelley's)CA --|-- 4403495 --|-- 4437557 --|-- -34062 --|-- -0.007675845 --|--

SUBTOTAL --|-- -214140 --|-- -0.085571114 --|--

RED STATES (Loosely where you might expect to find more fundamentalist christians and moral issues based voters.)

TN --|-- 1381852 --|-- 1056480 --|-- 325372 --|-- 0.307977434 --|--
AL --|-- 1174278 --|-- 943799 --|-- 230479 --|-- 0.24420348 --|--
KY --|-- 1064504 --|-- 869946 --|-- 194558 --|-- 0.223643766 --|--
SD --|-- 232545 --|-- 190515 --|-- 42030 --|-- 0.22061255 --|--
AK --|-- 566676 --|-- 472120 --|-- 94556 --|-- 0.20027959 --|--
MISS --|-- 657920 --|-- 549426 --|-- 108494 --|-- 0.197467903 --|--
LOU --|-- 1101710 --|-- 924670 --|-- 177040 --|-- 0.1914629 --|--
NB --|-- 486025 --|-- 408719 --|-- 77306 --|-- 0.189142173 --|--
UTH --|-- 608851 --|-- 512168 --|-- 96683 --|-- 0.188772044 --|--
IND --|-- 1474475 --|-- 1242372 --|-- 232103 --|-- 0.186822465 --|--
KS --|-- 711083 --|-- 616829 --|-- 94254 --|-- 0.1528041 --|--
WY --|-- 167129 --|-- 147674 --|-- 19455 --|-- 0.131742893 --|--

SUBTOTAL --|-- 1692330 --|-- 0.162328753 --|--

NEW --|-- VOTES --|-- FOUND --|-- 7818265 --|--
REMAINDER --|-- 843089 --|--

RANKING LIST OF NEW VOTE STATES… BY TOTAL VOTES GAINED

STATE --|-- 2004 --|-- 2000 --|-- NEW VOTES --|-- % --|-- Incr --|-- Cumulative --|-- Gain --|--

FL --|-- 3838376 --|-- 2909176 --|-- 929200 --|-- 31.9% --|-- 929200 --|-- 10.7%
TX --|-- 4495797 --|-- 3796850 --|-- 698947 --|-- 18.4% --|-- 1628147 --|-- 18.8%
NY --|-- 2780749 --|-- 2235776 --|-- 544973 --|-- 24.4% --|-- 2173120 --|-- 25.1%
OH --|-- 2796147 --|-- 2294167 --|-- 501980 --|-- 21.9% --|-- 2675100 --|-- 30.9%
PA --|-- 2748900 --|-- 2264309 --|-- 484591 --|-- 21.4% --|-- 3159691 --|-- 36.5%
GA --|-- 1867988 --|-- 1416085 --|-- 451903 --|-- 31.9% --|-- 3611594 --|-- 41.7%
MI --|-- 2306259 --|-- 1947100 --|-- 359159 --|-- 18.4% --|-- 3970753 --|-- 45.9%
NJ --|-- 1587494 --|-- 1253791 --|-- 333703 --|-- 26.6% --|-- 4304456 --|-- 49.7%
TN --|-- 1381852 --|-- 1056480 --|-- 325372 --|-- 30.8% --|-- 4629828 --|-- 53.5%
NC --|-- 1919903 --|-- 1607238 --|-- 312665 --|-- 19.5% --|-- 4942493 --|-- 57.1%
IL --|-- 2313415 --|-- 2019256 --|-- 294159 --|-- 14.6% --|-- 5236652 --|-- 60.5%
WI --|-- 1477122 --|-- 1235035 --|-- 242087 --|-- 19.6% --|-- 5478739 --|-- 63.3%
MN --|-- 1345168 --|-- 1110290 --|-- 234878 --|-- 21.2% --|-- 5713617 --|-- 66.0%
IND --|-- 1474475 --|-- 1242372 --|-- 232103 --|-- 18.7% --|-- 5945720 --|-- 68.7%
AL --|-- 1174278 --|-- 943799 --|-- 230479 --|-- 24.4% --|-- 6176199 --|-- 71.3%
OK --|-- 959655 --|-- 744335 --|-- 215320 --|-- 28.9% --|-- 6391519 --|-- 73.8%
KY --|-- 1064504 --|-- 869946 --|-- 194558 --|-- 22.4% --|-- 6586077 --|-- 76.1%
AZ --|-- 905379 --|-- 715112 --|-- 190267 --|-- 26.6% --|-- 6776344 --|-- 78.2%
LOU --|-- 1101710 --|-- 924670 --|-- 177040 --|-- 19.1% --|-- 6953384 --|-- 80.3%
MD --|-- 936505 --|-- 770911 --|-- 165594 --|-- 21.5% --|-- 7118978 --|-- 82.2%
CO --|-- 1017322 --|-- 884047 --|-- 133275 --|-- 15.1% --|-- 7252253 --|-- 83.7%
IO --|-- 745734 --|-- 634225 --|-- 111509 --|-- 17.6% --|-- 7363762 --|-- 85.0%
MISS --|-- 657920 --|-- 549426 --|-- 108494 --|-- 19.7% --|-- 7472256 --|-- 86.3%
UTH --|-- 608851 --|-- 512168 --|-- 96683 --|-- 18.9% --|-- 7568939 --|-- 87.4%
AK --|-- 566676 --|-- 472120 --|-- 94556 --|-- 20.0% --|-- 7663495 --|-- 88.5%
KS --|-- 711083 --|-- 616829 --|-- 94254 --|-- 15.3% --|-- 7757749 --|-- 89.6%
NM --|-- 364569 --|-- 286417 --|-- 78152 --|-- 27.3% --|-- 7835901 --|-- 90.5%
NB --|-- 486025 --|-- 408719 --|-- 77306 --|-- 18.9% --|-- 7913207 --|-- 91.4%
NH --|-- 330848 --|-- 273135 --|-- 57713 --|-- 21.1% --|-- 7970920 --|-- 92.0%
SD --|-- 232545 --|-- 190515 --|-- 42030 --|-- 22.1% --|-- 8012950 --|-- 92.5%
WY --|-- 167129 --|-- 147674 --|-- 19455 --|-- 13.2% --|-- 8032405 --|-- 92.8%

TOTALS --|-- 44364378 --|-- 36331973 --|-- 8032405 --|-- 21.7% --|--

RANKING LIST OF NEW VOTE STATES… BY % INCREASE

STATE --|-- 2004 --|-- 2000 --|-- NEW VOTES --|-- % --|-- Incr --|--

FL --|-- 3838376 --|-- 2909176 --|-- 929200 --|-- 31.9% --|--
GA --|-- 1867988 --|-- 1416085 --|-- 451903 --|-- 31.9% --|--
TN --|-- 1381852 --|-- 1056480 --|-- 325372 --|-- 30.8% --|--
OK --|-- 959655 --|-- 744335 --|-- 215320 --|-- 28.9% --|--
NM --|-- 364569 --|-- 286417 --|-- 78152 --|-- 27.3% --|--
NJ --|-- 1587494 --|-- 1253791 --|-- 333703 --|-- 26.6% --|--
AZ --|-- 905379 --|-- 715112 --|-- 190267 --|-- 26.6% --|--
AL --|-- 1174278 --|-- 943799 --|-- 230479 --|-- 24.4% --|--
NY --|-- 2780749 --|-- 2235776 --|-- 544973 --|-- 24.4% --|--
KY --|-- 1064504 --|-- 869946 --|-- 194558 --|-- 22.4% --|--
SD --|-- 232545 --|-- 190515 --|-- 42030 --|-- 22.1% --|--
OH --|-- 2796147 --|-- 2294167 --|-- 501980 --|-- 21.9% --|--
MD --|-- 936505 --|-- 770911 --|-- 165594 --|-- 21.5% --|--
PA --|-- 2748900 --|-- 2264309 --|-- 484591 --|-- 21.4% --|--
MN --|-- 1345168 --|-- 1110290 --|-- 234878 --|-- 21.2% --|--
NH --|-- 330848 --|-- 273135 --|-- 57713 --|-- 21.1% --|--
AK --|-- 566676 --|-- 472120 --|-- 94556 --|-- 20.0% --|--
MISS --|-- 657920 --|-- 549426 --|-- 108494 --|-- 19.7% --|--
WI --|-- 1477122 --|-- 1235035 --|-- 242087 --|-- 19.6% --|--
NC --|-- 1919903 --|-- 1607238 --|-- 312665 --|-- 19.5% --|--
LOU --|-- 1101710 --|-- 924670 --|-- 177040 --|-- 19.1% --|--
NB --|-- 486025 --|-- 408719 --|-- 77306 --|-- 18.9% --|--
UTH --|-- 608851 --|-- 512168 --|-- 96683 --|-- 18.9% --|--
IND --|-- 1474475 --|-- 1242372 --|-- 232103 --|-- 18.7% --|--
MI --|-- 2306259 --|-- 1947100 --|-- 359159 --|-- 18.4% --|--
TX --|-- 4495797 --|-- 3796850 --|-- 698947 --|-- 18.4% --|--
IO --|-- 745734 --|-- 634225 --|-- 111509 --|-- 17.6% --|--
KS --|-- 711083 --|-- 616829 --|-- 94254 --|-- 15.3% --|--
CO --|-- 1017322 --|-- 884047 --|-- 133275 --|-- 15.1% --|--
IL --|-- 2313415 --|-- 2019256 --|-- 294159 --|-- 14.6% --|--
WY --|-- 167129 --|-- 147674 --|-- 19455 --|-- 13.2% --|--

TOTALS --|-- 44364378 --|-- 36331973 --|-- 8032405 --|-- 21.7% --|--

REMAINING STATES --|-- 14635622 --|-- 627595 --|-- 4.3% --|--

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  -George Bush's 8 Million New Votes Found – A STATISTICAL ANALYSIS althecat  Nov-04-04 04:38 AM   #0 
  - Thank you for this  LibertyorDeath   Nov-04-04 04:44 AM   #1 
  - My pleasure... please keep it kicked...  althecat   Nov-04-04 04:49 AM   #3 
     - Is there any way to set up a dedicated site for this?  e j e   Nov-04-04 12:07 PM   #38 
     - Question on finding stats  CAcyclist   Nov-07-04 09:00 PM   #110 
  - Kerry may not see this one through, but I knew someone on DU  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-04-04 04:46 AM   #2 
  - Can 55 million folks file a civil suit against **?  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-04-04 03:20 PM   #62 
  - I've bookmarked this and will take a look later.  Birthmark   Nov-04-04 04:52 AM   #4 
  - gee Wally O'Dell didn't just give him Ohio...  leftchick   Nov-04-04 04:52 AM   #5 
  - There is no Point anymore!  Amy6627   Nov-04-04 01:49 PM   #52 
     - Here's a little prayer for you.  George_S   Nov-04-04 02:07 PM   #55 
     - Fight what?  Amy6627   Nov-04-04 04:15 PM   #64 
        - We beat them after 1776  xpat   Nov-05-04 09:08 AM   #83 
     - So let's all roll over and stay silent - NOT!  goclark   Nov-04-04 06:14 PM   #71 
     - kick  althecat   Nov-12-04 03:42 PM   #113 
     - Yea, so why come here and post anymore also?  nolabels   Nov-07-04 01:21 AM   #97 
  - Thanks, going to try to take all this in...  Joefess   Nov-04-04 04:54 AM   #6 
  - Stage 2 Of This Research.. any help would be greatly appreciated....  althecat   Nov-04-04 04:57 AM   #7 
  - 60% of all Bush's new votes...  teach1st   Nov-04-04 05:08 AM   #10 
  - The counties produced 45.5% of Bush's vote in 2000 and 47.5% in 2004  althecat   Nov-04-04 01:12 PM   #43 
  - States that had gay marriage props for comparison  George_S   Nov-04-04 02:16 PM   #58 
  - George S...  Chili   Nov-07-04 01:55 AM   #100 
     - VERY TELLING POINT HERE n/t  althecat   Nov-07-04 05:06 AM   #102 
  - not showing 2000 countie data there  mulethree   Nov-05-04 02:33 PM   #86 
  - Arizona  mulethree   Nov-05-04 04:39 PM   #90 
  - Pennsylvania  mulethree   Nov-05-04 06:44 PM   #91 
  - Ditto... i.e. would be nice to get emailed as a spreadsheet...  althecat   Nov-06-04 08:20 PM   #93 
  - You are a gem indeed mulethree  althecat   Nov-07-04 01:08 AM   #94 
  - Cool... thanks a million  althecat   Nov-06-04 08:19 PM   #92 
  - Have a volunteer for texas...  althecat   Nov-07-04 01:10 AM   #95 
  - Florida...  althecat   Nov-07-04 01:12 AM   #96 
  - Florida county -by-county results  VictoryForKerry2004   Nov-07-04 10:39 AM   #105 
  - New Jersey - Step 1 done  madrigal   Nov-12-04 11:04 PM   #115 
     - Fantastic... Madrigal...  althecat   Nov-13-04 12:33 AM   #121 
        - I HAVE ESTABLISHED A NEW THREAD TO POST NEW DATA HERE  althecat   Nov-13-04 12:39 AM   #122 
  - good job but we have run into a interesting  smurfygirl   Nov-04-04 05:02 AM   #8 
  - It requires a subscription.  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-04-04 05:05 AM   #9 
  - It shouldn't require a subscription.  smurfygirl   Nov-04-04 05:09 AM   #11 
  - The site isn't allowing new  FlaGranny   Nov-04-04 08:40 AM   #22 
  - Same here...If someone could post the info at the JK thread, would be  shelley806   Nov-04-04 10:57 AM   #30 
  - I was logged in but when I clicked on that link above, it said  NVwriter   Nov-13-04 01:00 AM   #123 
  - Can't register or login sorry  althecat   Nov-04-04 01:13 PM   #44 
  - The fix is in...  crozet4clark   Nov-04-04 05:15 AM   #12 
  - Kick for a great Post  LibertyorDeath   Nov-04-04 05:18 AM   #13 
  - You better hurry with this information because CNN is already  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-04-04 05:52 AM   #14 
  - NPR also reporting how well the electronic machines worked.  KCS72000   Nov-04-04 08:16 AM   #18 
  - what else would you expect from the fascist media?  tinanator   Nov-04-04 08:40 AM   #23 
  - There was a disclaimer on CNN that they're own by Time/Warner  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-04-04 08:57 AM   #25 
     - more important, what is NPR's connection  tinanator   Nov-04-04 09:03 AM   #26 
  - This is just sickening  KatieB   Nov-20-04 12:25 AM   #132 
  - The same media that pumped up the WMD issues and Iraq  nolabels   Nov-04-04 03:19 PM   #61 
  - kick  enough   Nov-04-04 05:52 AM   #15 
  - Great post, great information!  bklyncowgirl   Nov-04-04 06:23 AM   #16 
  - So you saying there is a correlation between increased (above average)  BlueEyedSon   Nov-04-04 06:45 AM   #17 
  - Finally someone answers my question! Thank you!  robbedvoter   Nov-04-04 08:23 AM   #19 
  - kick  iha_te_bush   Nov-04-04 08:27 AM   #20 
     - kick  althecat   Nov-05-04 04:29 AM   #78 
  - I made a post early in the morning of 11/3  FlaGranny   Nov-04-04 08:33 AM   #21 
  - *kicking* with pleasure!  Catchawave   Nov-04-04 08:45 AM   #24 
  - It get's MUCH WORSE than THIS  berni_mccoy   Nov-04-04 09:13 AM   #27 
  - Please post your findings here... we can't register for JK.com  althecat   Nov-04-04 01:15 PM   #45 
  - And I contributed to Kerry  nodictators   Nov-04-04 02:05 PM   #54 
  - Might bush not have received lots and lots of independent votes?  althecat   Nov-04-04 01:42 PM   #50 
  - Consider what you are asking here  nolabels   Nov-07-04 01:34 AM   #98 
  - Doesn't make sense  latteromden   Nov-22-04 10:49 PM   #136 
  - can't get into the forum either  desert   Nov-04-04 04:37 PM   #67 
  - I'm working on Iowa n/t  chriscol   Nov-22-04 12:01 AM   #133 
  - extremely KICK  CHICKEN CAPITOL USA   Nov-04-04 09:18 AM   #28 
  - There's a big difference in these two issues  berni_mccoy   Nov-04-04 09:34 AM   #29 
     - The media "discredited"? So, it's untrue then. The liberal media? Wow!  robbedvoter   Nov-04-04 11:14 AM   #35 
     - I agree that there is a discrepency  berni_mccoy   Nov-04-04 11:26 AM   #36 
     - This is nothing to do with exit polls!!!  althecat   Nov-04-04 01:43 PM   #51 
     - Thanks for setting us straight on this. The media explained it away.  txindy   Nov-13-04 12:30 AM   #120 
     - question: where did you get these charts?  amazona   Nov-04-04 02:29 PM   #59 
     - This is nothing to do with exit polls...  althecat   Nov-04-04 01:36 PM   #47 
     - how would they do that?  m berst   Nov-13-04 12:05 AM   #116 
  - Glad you did a narrative  LuLu550   Nov-04-04 11:00 AM   #31 
  - I believe it was rigged, but it's not going to do any good unless  okieinpain   Nov-04-04 11:09 AM   #32 
  - We need the DNC to stop worrying about image for a moment  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-04-04 11:13 AM   #34 
  - In order to find proof we need to identify where to look for it.  althecat   Nov-04-04 01:40 PM   #48 
  - the "where's the proof" false argument  m berst   Nov-13-04 12:20 AM   #118 
  - isn't there a way to get the voter rolls, and see if a person  okieinpain   Nov-04-04 11:11 AM   #33 
  - kick-y-poo...  e j e   Nov-04-04 11:59 AM   #37 
  - Kick  LibertyorDeath   Nov-04-04 12:19 PM   #39 
  - Kick  sor   Nov-04-04 12:28 PM   #40 
  - OHIO DID NOT USE DIEBOLD  meisje   Nov-04-04 12:36 PM   #41 
  - Ohio USED touchscreen machines. n/t  Caliphoto   Nov-04-04 02:11 PM   #56 
  - Why do people keep repeating that?  springhill   Nov-04-04 04:24 PM   #65 
  - I'm sick of stupid people...  Dr_eldritch   Nov-07-04 12:11 PM   #107 
  - you need to get a better understanding perhaps  m berst   Nov-13-04 12:14 AM   #117 
  - STOLEN AGAIN!!!!!  Richglo   Nov-04-04 12:41 PM   #42 
  - Turn about is fair play!  goclark   Nov-04-04 08:46 PM   #75 
  - They had to do this, it was the only way they steal it  nolabels   Nov-04-04 01:26 PM   #46 
  - We have to get this out to the media  brettdale   Nov-04-04 01:42 PM   #49 
  - From the information that blackboxvoting.org and other groups..........  nolabels   Nov-04-04 02:00 PM   #53 
  - You are probably already aware of Kevin Shelley's  CAcyclist   Nov-04-04 02:15 PM   #57 
  - That's why we have to do it ourselves  nolabels   Nov-04-04 04:06 PM   #63 
  - Kick  ParanoidPat   Nov-04-04 03:14 PM   #60 
  - kick  barb1622000   Nov-04-04 04:43 PM   # 
  - kick  barb1622000   Nov-04-04 04:43 PM   #68 
  - Wasn't it much more than 8 million new voters?  aint_no_life_nowhere   Nov-04-04 04:34 PM   #66 
  - Only problem is doing that is effectively impossible...  althecat   Nov-04-04 04:43 PM   #69 
  - Thank you for the time you spent on this report. It looks like I will be  AlinPA   Nov-04-04 04:51 PM   #70 
  - Kick  desert   Nov-04-04 06:44 PM   #72 
  - kick  alpaca   Nov-04-04 07:00 PM   #73 
  - Putman Co. FL 123% increased vote for * in 2004? [from TableTalk-Salon]  Lil   Nov-04-04 08:24 PM   #74 
  - Proof you shouldn't beleive all you read on the net  althecat   Nov-04-04 09:04 PM   #76 
     - Yes - oops. Thanks - update from original author  Lil   Nov-04-04 10:50 PM   #77 
  - Kick  DELUSIONAL   Nov-05-04 05:15 AM   #79 
  - Have I kicked you lately?  e j e   Nov-05-04 08:14 AM   #80 
  - kick  jdjkkse   Nov-05-04 08:58 AM   #82 
  - and again  e j e   Nov-05-04 10:44 AM   #84 
  - feel the burn!  e j e   Nov-05-04 01:40 PM   #85 
  - Kick for America!  Rockholm   Nov-05-04 03:21 PM   #89 
  - Are you getting this info to someone who can do something? n/t  bear425   Nov-05-04 08:51 AM   #81 
  - fascinating  rockydem   Nov-05-04 02:41 PM   #87 
  - kick for voter fraud  Willy Lee   Nov-05-04 03:18 PM   #88 
  - #5, to me, is very telling...  Chili   Nov-07-04 01:48 AM   #99 
  - That's because they are not even good liars  nolabels   Nov-07-04 02:10 AM   #101 
  - What was the increase for the 11 states that had the marriage  lizzieforkerry   Nov-07-04 08:54 AM   #103 
  - kick  RationalRose   Nov-07-04 09:40 AM   #104 
  - ALTHE CAT - FLORIDA COUNTY BY COUNTY STATS  VictoryForKerry2004   Nov-07-04 10:42 AM   #106 
  - Send voter fraud info to Cam Kerry!  JudyM   Nov-07-04 01:32 PM   #108 
  - From Cam Kerry  kerrygoddess   Nov-13-04 02:03 AM   #125 
  - Do you have a statistical analysis for the strange #'s in CO?  apolitical no more   Nov-07-04 07:37 PM   #109 
  - Wow now there are some numbers THAT REALLY STAND OUT  althecat   Nov-08-04 02:51 AM   #111 
  - Pulling that kind of number game in Vegas will get you arrested  nolabels   Nov-15-04 02:32 PM   #130 
  - No oddity here.  pointsoflight   Nov-12-04 03:53 PM   #114 
  - Kick. This one should have been on the homepage. nt  lostnfound   Nov-11-04 02:40 PM   #112 
  - No surprise to hear that Junior's #'s were padded in Texas & FL  txindy   Nov-13-04 12:23 AM   #119 
  - not Canada or Ireland...  Hobbes199   Nov-13-04 01:51 AM   #124 
  - Completely agree about Tx  BlueInRed   Nov-15-04 03:29 PM   #131 
  - Hey this is the thread I said I was looking for  illuminaughty   Nov-13-04 02:40 AM   #126 
  - kick  truehawk   Nov-15-04 01:05 PM   #127 
  - kick  truehawk   Nov-15-04 01:13 PM   #128 
  - Kick for a true patriot ... althecat! nt  LisaLynne   Nov-15-04 01:53 PM   #129 
  - Big Kick!  Melissa G   Nov-22-04 09:54 PM   #134 
  - Voting Fraud  Debbie13   Nov-22-04 09:57 PM   #135 
     - I gotta ask.  jdog   Nov-23-04 07:50 AM   #137 
 

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