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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:57 AM
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18. Which machines?
Can you get the brand of machines that did this and compare them to the same brand, in the same precincts and/or different precints. Why did some malfunction and some not malfunction. I haven't seen anybody trying to get an explanation for the exact same brand of machines malfunctioning in one place and not another.
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  -Fraud(Default to Bush) documented in Florida touchscreen county machines berniew1  Dec-21-04 07:32 PM   #0 
  - Start by sending it to Congressman Conyers  Liberty Belle   Dec-21-04 07:46 PM   #1 
  - Yes, get the information out to everyone possible, interesting findings  GetTheRightVote   Dec-21-04 07:54 PM   #2 
     - From EIRS data we know which machines by precinct were rigged  berniew1   Dec-21-04 08:04 PM   #3 
  - And why is this Fraud at this point?  Doctor O   Dec-21-04 08:08 PM   #4 
  - Computers only do what they are told to do. Someone rigged the machines  berniew1   Dec-21-04 08:15 PM   #5 
  - But also note: analysts have also documented other fraud in these states  berniew1   Dec-21-04 08:16 PM   #6 
  - None of these have any proof of fraud.  Doctor O   Dec-21-04 08:27 PM   #8 
  - Where is the proof that someone intentionally rigged the machines?  Doctor O   Dec-21-04 08:25 PM   #7 
     - Anyone who knows much about computers knows that computer did what told to  berniew1   Dec-21-04 08:36 PM   #10 
     - The vote machines aren't inherently unfair; only if deliberately rigged  berniew1   Dec-21-04 08:38 PM   #11 
     - Its a good thing I don't know anything about computers,  Doctor O   Dec-21-04 08:50 PM   #12 
     - Getting a wee bit testy, aren't we?  Carolab   Dec-22-04 01:26 AM   #14 
     - Dr. Zero _does_ run a big OCR company  electropop   Dec-22-04 01:18 PM   #36 
     - He an OCR guy, he doesn't have to spell get it?  btmlndfrmr   Dec-22-04 02:02 AM   #15 
     - doobie doobie dooo...  Woo   Dec-22-04 03:44 AM   #19 
     - you only have about 50 posts here. Have you bothered to read  pbartch   Dec-22-04 11:43 AM   #27 
     - Then you would have to agree that the public  Alizaryn   Dec-22-04 02:00 PM   #40 
     - They do what they're told, no doubt.  igil   Dec-22-04 11:55 AM   #29 
     - Since you are such an expert on computer software  galadriel   Dec-22-04 11:09 AM   #25 
        - Many problems could have happened.  Doctor O   Dec-22-04 11:37 AM   #26 
           - All the more reason to do a hand count...  btmlndfrmr   Dec-22-04 01:09 PM   #35 
           - Perfectly True  ribofunk   Dec-22-04 01:54 PM   #38 
  - You are not looking very hard  fasttense   Dec-22-04 05:49 AM   #23 
  - Those 57k complaints  igil   Dec-22-04 12:03 PM   #31 
  - the use of nonpartisan in this context is comical  pgh_dem   Dec-22-04 12:12 PM   #33 
  - Bogus argument  Peace Patriot   Dec-22-04 01:45 PM   #37 
  - Gee, these machines were represented to the public as accurate  bleever   Dec-21-04 08:34 PM   #9 
  - Are these all the same types of machines? Are undervotes low?  emlev   Dec-21-04 11:56 PM   #13 
  - These are touchscreen machines similar to the ones in Mahoning, Ohio  berniew1   Dec-22-04 11:54 AM   #28 
  - File a suit and impound the machines...and decompile the code  EndElectoral   Dec-22-04 02:08 AM   #16 
  - I was just thinking about that, Can that be done?  btmlndfrmr   Dec-22-04 02:16 AM   #17 
  - That should be done, but not necessary to know what happened  berniew1   Dec-22-04 11:58 AM   #30 
  - Which machines?  sandnsea   Dec-22-04 02:57 AM   #18 
  - It seems that this problem has occured in the past...  Emit   Dec-22-04 04:03 AM   #20 
  - It seems that when machines are jostled and get "uncalibrated"  eomer   Dec-22-04 05:33 AM   #22 
     - This is a systematic , consistent pattern: only explained by Default to B*  berniew1   Dec-22-04 12:14 PM   #34 
  - Or it could be touch screen calibration problem.  americanwoman   Dec-22-04 05:15 AM   #21 
  - All machines are suspect since  zimba   Dec-22-04 10:56 AM   #24 
  - Sent to KO. n/t  StephanieMarie   Dec-22-04 12:04 PM   #32 
  - There's also a research team with the Greens...  Niche   Dec-22-04 01:58 PM   #39 

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