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Analysts say a pattern is developing regarding touchscreen results
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One pattern that is developing based on the experience of voters in Florida, New Mexico, Ohio, and elsewhere(especially swing states) is the the machines appear to have been set with a default to Bush. Then if a voter successfully punched the ballot for another candidate, Bush was replaced by that candidate. But it appears that in many cases the voter did not successfully accomplish this and in some cases it was hard or impossible to get the other candidate to register. This was a major problem in Mahoning county in Ohio, and possibly Mercer, but also occurred in many counties and several states. They had to replace some of the machines in counties like Mahoning after repeated attempts by techs to "recalibrate" the machines after widespread reports of problems. This also happened in Florida and New Mexico. But this means that Bush would get not only the votes of those who didn't notice that the punched candidate didn't register but any intentional non votes or accidental non votes or unsuccessfully completed votes. Quite an advantage. As much as 2 to 4% in some areas and even more perhaps in some minority areas.
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  Analysts say a pattern is developing regarding touchscreen results berniew1  Dec-18-04 08:32 PM   #0 
   What does 2-4% matter? Oh yeah: everything.  bleever   Dec-18-04 08:34 PM   #1 
   Hopefully therefore they do and correct them so we can not catch them  GetTheRightVote   Dec-18-04 08:35 PM   #4 
      Richard Phillips detailed documentation confirmed this fraud in Ohio  berniew1   Dec-20-04 08:01 PM   #62 
   Not surprising. 1% here, 1% there, and all the manipulation  SharonAnn   Dec-18-04 08:34 PM   #2 
   Truly sickening! Just sickening!  TexasChick   Dec-18-04 08:35 PM   #3 
   I've only heard heard of one anecdotal case . . .  pa28   Dec-18-04 08:35 PM   #5 
   in Ohio it happened in Youngstown.... possibly  KaliTracy   Dec-18-04 10:48 PM   #32 
   Do you have a link? Geez, somebody needs to see the default settings  Pirate Smile   Dec-18-04 08:36 PM   #6 
   OMG, Pirate Smile. I think you just accidentally just made me sicker.  TexasChick   Dec-18-04 08:37 PM   #8 
      Sorry.  Pirate Smile   Dec-18-04 08:38 PM   #9 
         I think you may have lost me there, Pirate Smile. n/t  TexasChick   Dec-18-04 08:42 PM   #12 
   Link?  Laelth   Dec-18-04 08:36 PM   #7 
   LOL! I love your picture! It's derived from a saying of an interpretation  TexasChick   Dec-18-04 08:40 PM   #10 
   Yes. It was a Japanese attempt at English, I think.  Laelth   Dec-18-04 08:46 PM   #15 
   There have been several stories; one analyst on this is Richard Phillips  berniew1   Dec-18-04 08:45 PM   #14 
   If this is true, Bush didn't win by much. In fact, he lost by a landslide  The Backlash Cometh   Dec-18-04 08:40 PM   # 
   source?  Mike Niendorff   Dec-18-04 08:40 PM   #11 
   Here's another source: link note the 20 to 30 machines Kerry >>Bush  berniew1   Dec-18-04 08:49 PM   #16 
      Here's one New Mex. thread; anyone know how to find the other one?  berniew1   Dec-18-04 08:51 PM   #18 
      It wasn't just the Presidential Race; U.S. Senate races also  berniew1   Dec-18-04 09:02 PM   #21 
         And the correlations in the Florida Senate race by machine type are...  L. Coyote   Dec-19-04 04:57 PM   #51 
         I believe Bowles beat Burr in NC....  leftchick   Dec-20-04 07:58 AM   #60 
   I just have one question:  MinneapolisMatt   Dec-18-04 08:43 PM   #13 
   We really need to get inside them  RaulVB   Dec-18-04 08:51 PM   #17 
   And this is how likely??  buzzard   Dec-18-04 08:59 PM   #19 
   Who are we kidding? They've had 6 wks. & access to clean-up the 'fix.'  zann725   Dec-19-04 02:44 AM   #44 
   "DEFAULT TO BUSH"  enough   Dec-18-04 09:02 PM   #20 
   This needs a source...  EMunster   Dec-18-04 09:03 PM   #22 
   According to Clint Curtis' testimony...  AtLiberty   Dec-18-04 09:06 PM   #23 
   am ..I... the analyst mentioned here?  Hamoth   Dec-18-04 09:09 PM   #24 
   Not specifically; but I may have seen your thread also; noticed several  berniew1   Dec-18-04 09:23 PM   #25 
   Gosh, were'nt the exit polls off by 2 to 4 percent? We need to impound  buddysmellgood   Dec-18-04 09:31 PM   #26 
   I'm new, so forgive me...  Pierre de Fermat   Dec-18-04 09:36 PM   #27 
   Welcome, Pierre!  BlueDog2u   Dec-18-04 11:26 PM   #34 
   Here's ONE of the sources reporting that NM machines  Hamoth   Dec-18-04 09:42 PM   #28 
   Richard Phillips says he's doing a detailed analysis of this re: Ohio  berniew1   Dec-18-04 09:56 PM   #29 
   no kiddin!? You mean i was right!? Hot damn!  Hamoth   Dec-18-04 10:23 PM   #30 
      Hamoth....this theory makes a lot of sense to me  BlueDog2u   Dec-18-04 11:24 PM   #33 
         You know, I think that's about a wrap. Since about 11/5, we've  sfexpat2000   Dec-18-04 11:43 PM   #37 
   Does anyone know what type of vote equipment was used in Fairfield County?  berniew1   Dec-18-04 10:38 PM   #31 
   I voted in NM  rdmccur   Dec-18-04 11:32 PM   #35 
   Congressional races  sharman   Dec-19-04 02:39 AM   #43 
   Of COURSE B* was the default. Mail this to Bob at Freepress.org?  sfexpat2000   Dec-18-04 11:37 PM   #36 
   There is strong evidence Kerry won New Mexico; see URL with  berniew1   Dec-19-04 01:02 AM   #38 
   Kick as support for evidence Kerry won New Mexico  berniew1   Dec-19-04 01:32 AM   #39 
   from RH Phillips; confirmation; he's working on more details  berniew1   Dec-19-04 01:48 AM   #40 
   The "pattern"  november3rd   Dec-19-04 01:54 AM   #41 
   "de fault" is de bush  Straight Shooter   Dec-19-04 02:27 AM   #42 
   New Mexico voter suppression and machine manipulation were flagrant  berniew1   Dec-19-04 09:30 AM   #45 
   Links to the 3 threads with supporting documentation on this fraud pattern  berniew1   Dec-19-04 10:42 AM   #46 
   Not Surprised!  lonestarnot   Dec-19-04 10:44 AM   #47 
   Florida: Comparison President vs. Senate Races by Voting Machine Type  L. Coyote   Dec-19-04 03:32 PM   #48 
   Nevada: Non-Vote comparison President vs. Senate races.  L. Coyote   Dec-19-04 03:41 PM   #49 
   Summary of documentation on this thread-- URL  berniew1   Dec-19-04 04:04 PM   #50 
   Very helpful; thank you (n/t)  understandinglife   Dec-20-04 08:06 PM   #63 
   Would this be a hardware or software problem?  BushSpeak   Dec-19-04 07:32 PM   #52 
   There is difference in default to Bush and poorly calibrated  berniew1   Dec-19-04 08:01 PM   #56 
      I agree, it was a bit of both.  BushSpeak   Dec-20-04 07:47 AM   #58 
      I agree, it was a bit of both.  BushSpeak   Dec-20-04 07:51 AM   #59 
   DO NOT BE FOOLED BY PAPER TRAILS  NVMojo   Dec-19-04 07:40 PM   #53 
   You're right, a paper trail won't do it alone. You have to have  Stevepol   Dec-20-04 09:14 PM   #65 
   Of course, if you are going to make vote tabulation auditable--  eridani   Dec-20-04 09:44 PM   #66 
   3 million votes... this is where they came from... I'm sure of it.  Niche   Dec-19-04 07:41 PM   #54 
   Scientists looking at vote differences between machine types  flintdem   Dec-19-04 07:57 PM   #55 
   Likely not a useful study. You have to look at pattern observed and why.  berniew1   Dec-19-04 08:05 PM   #57 
   the machines appear to have been set with a default to Bush????  malatesta1137   Dec-20-04 07:59 AM   #61 
   Very interesting  adolfo   Dec-20-04 08:16 PM   #64 
   Another possibility besides 'defaults'  eridani   Dec-20-04 09:53 PM   #67 
   Non-Voting Statistics. State Comparisons May Be Useful.  L. Coyote   Dec-21-04 02:03 AM   #70 
   Then how could you have any (or so many) undervotes? n/t  read the law first   Dec-21-04 12:33 AM   #68 
   There was a major systematic effort to create misvotes in minority areas  berniew1   Dec-21-04 09:55 AM   #72 
   FYI- that's exactly what happened in 2002 when I voted for Governor..  KaryninMiami   Dec-21-04 01:31 AM   #69 
   updated documentation on this pattern at links here  berniew1   Dec-21-04 09:50 AM   #71 
 

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