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102. You got that exactly right, Leftchick, however my guess is the reason JFK
Kerry conceded is that he must have realized between 9pm Nov 2nd and 11am Nov 3rd that his best recourse was to concede based on:

1) The 138,000 vote loss margin was too large to overcome
even with provisional votes and absentee votes counted later on

2) There was no way for Kerry to prove fraud unless a whistleblower or two came forward and he (Kerry) would only look like a sore loser not conceding inspite of the 138,000 vote margin of loss

3) Kerry knew others such as Conyers etc would investigate possible
fraud, and his only chance was for a whistleblower to come forward,
which would happen regardless of whether he conceded or not

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  -Democracy in America is about to die because of JOHN KERRY!! ElementaryPenguin  Dec-15-04 05:14 PM   #0 
  - I prefer to blame it on the BFEE...but his acquiescence didn't help. nt  UpsideDownFlag   Dec-15-04 05:15 PM   #1 
  - Last time I checked it wasn't JK that stole our vote. n/t  jamboi   Dec-15-04 07:14 PM   #79 
     - i didnt say he did, but while we're talking about the last time we checked  UpsideDownFlag   Dec-15-04 11:36 PM   #100 
        - Concession has no legal standing. Allows him to slip under radar. nt  jamboi   Dec-16-04 05:24 AM   #111 
           - Trouble is - the WHOLE DAMN THING is under the radar screen  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-16-04 11:26 AM   #122 
  - Kucinich would not have rolled over  The Sushi Bandit   Dec-15-04 05:16 PM   #2 
  - I agree. Neither would/did Gore. I am really amazed/disillusioned.  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:18 PM   #5 
  - Gore asked the senators not to stand up. Isn't that rollling over?  Amaryllis   Dec-15-04 07:27 PM   #82 
  - Did Dennis Kucinich die? I could swear he's in Ohio and not very  mzmolly   Dec-15-04 06:21 PM   #54 
  - I saw a page of information by Kucinich on the web supporting the  Eye_on_prize   Dec-15-04 08:51 PM   #95 
  - Yeah, sure. Easy to say, I love these type of predictions.  merh   Dec-15-04 06:23 PM   #56 
  - Considering how active Kucinich has been active in the OHIO recount...  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-15-04 07:34 PM   #85 
  - What if he rescues us a couple of days from now?  goclark   Dec-15-04 05:17 PM   #3 
  - I will be happy to have been proven a fool - and will kiss his feet!  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:19 PM   #7 
  - That's what I'm betting on. n/t  jamboi   Dec-15-04 05:49 PM   #21 
  - Me too!  goclark   Dec-15-04 05:50 PM   #23 
  - Anything that happens now is entirely due to the efforts of Greens,  KnowerOfLogic   Dec-15-04 05:55 PM   #33 
     - He worked his ass off before - but he'll only take it now on a silver  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 06:09 PM   #45 
     - So, have you been involved in the strategy sessions. Do  merh   Dec-15-04 06:25 PM   #57 
  - I am praying you are absolutely wrong!  saracat   Dec-15-04 05:17 PM   #4 
  - So am I!  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:18 PM   #6 
     - Right on!  praisethelowered   Dec-15-04 05:25 PM   #11 
        - I know! We talk about "Bush Knew." What about "KERRY KNEW"?  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:51 PM   #25 
           - You know, I can't get over those folks that think a man would  merh   Dec-15-04 06:28 PM   #59 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-15-04 08:46 PM   #93 
  - Excellent EP!!!  leftchick   Dec-15-04 05:19 PM   #8 
  - Jeez, I hope to God he isn't! But I don't get it! Who here would do this  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:21 PM   #9 
  - that is my point!  leftchick   Dec-15-04 05:25 PM   #12 
     - He certainly had ample warning about the potential for e-voting fraud!  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:45 PM   #18 
  - not so.. the time and place of his choosing... this aint over!  Griffy   Dec-15-04 05:37 PM   #15 
  - Perhaps it isn't - but it's getting pretty damn close.  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:43 PM   #17 
  - We've been hearing that for a long time now. nt  smartvoter   Dec-15-04 05:54 PM   #31 
     - Indeed we have!  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 06:01 PM   #38 
     - too long...  leftchick   Dec-15-04 06:07 PM   #41 
  - This is NOT about Kerry.  suziedemocrat   Dec-15-04 07:44 PM   #89 
     - that may be.....  leftchick   Dec-15-04 08:31 PM   #90 
     - You got that exactly right, Leftchick, however my guess is the reason JFK  googly   Dec-16-04 01:36 AM   #102 
     - US, THE PEOPLE can't call a press conference.  joeunderdog   Dec-15-04 08:40 PM   #92 
        - Kerry's lawyers have written three letters to the Ohio officials. He is  bunny planet   Dec-15-04 08:59 PM   #96 
        - We the people CAN call press... MARCH ON DC 1/6/05 .. nt  Griffy   Dec-16-04 02:37 AM   #104 
        - His plan is to become president  Mirwib   Dec-16-04 05:10 AM   #109 
        - LOL  Blue State Native   Dec-16-04 11:23 AM   #120 
        - Good post.  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-16-04 12:18 PM   #130 
  - I'm gonna have to disagree  Goldeneye   Dec-15-04 05:22 PM   #10 
  - These are the only two possibilites!?!  RoeBear   Dec-15-04 05:28 PM   #13 
  - They DID steal the election! There isn't any question about it!  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:46 PM   #19 
  - His presence is the only that WILL do as some good at this point!  sunnystarr   Dec-15-04 06:08 PM   #43 
     - Where is he? This isn't like an option! He HAS to frickin' respond!  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 06:13 PM   #49 
  - I'll wait till the 21st of Jan to agree... he may yet turn his boat...  Griffy   Dec-15-04 05:32 PM   #14 
  - If Kerry'd Gotten Involved ... There'd BE NO FRAUD INVESTIGATION  cryingshame   Dec-15-04 05:42 PM   #16 
  - I wish I still had your faith in his judgment.  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:48 PM   #20 
  - It would be nice to set up some verifiable tests to discern exactly  Mirwib   Dec-16-04 05:14 AM   #110 
  - Well, if you consider 4 more years of Bush-  lizzy   Dec-15-04 05:54 PM   #29 
  - It's better than 4 years of Hitler, and Stalin maybe...but after that...  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:58 PM   #36 
  - You Totally Missed The Point.  cryingshame   Dec-15-04 06:36 PM   #61 
  - So just sit quietly behind the scenes?  Blue State Native   Dec-16-04 11:37 AM   #124 
  - It's not only John Kerry, it's the Dem Party.  gumby   Dec-15-04 05:49 PM   #22 
  - We really need to give him a few more weeks  Quakerfriend   Dec-15-04 05:53 PM   #27 
  - A few more weeks? Have we got that?  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 06:02 PM   #39 
     - "We" have got nothing.  gumby   Dec-15-04 06:13 PM   #48 
        - I suppose we're talking about "wresting" power than, aren't we?  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 06:16 PM   #50 
           - Let me count the ways:  gumby   Dec-15-04 06:33 PM   #60 
  - Agreed. The Dem Party sucks. I ONLY trust the Black Caucus!  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:53 PM   #28 
  - You have a valid point! (nt)  sunnystarr   Dec-15-04 06:41 PM   #63 
  - Thank you.  ohio_liberal   Dec-15-04 07:10 PM   #75 
  - How do you prove it though  daydreamer   Dec-15-04 05:50 PM   #24 
  - How did they prove it in Ukraine?  lizzy   Dec-15-04 05:54 PM   #30 
  - The exit polls are NEVER off by the degree they were here.  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:56 PM   #34 
  - Kerry's reticence is absolutely inexcusable, but not surprising.  KnowerOfLogic   Dec-15-04 05:53 PM   #26 
  - Yep.  lizzy   Dec-15-04 05:55 PM   #32 
  - What was the big drawback with...  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 05:59 PM   #37 
     - Don't know, but i bet Dean would be fighting tooth and nail right now.  KnowerOfLogic   Dec-15-04 06:27 PM   #58 
  - Oh give it a damn rest.  ClassWarrior   Dec-15-04 05:57 PM   #35 
  - Would you have let the GOP steal the election - steal your presidency  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 06:07 PM   #40 
  - I agree with Goldeneye, I believe he has behind the screens  GetTheRightVote   Dec-15-04 06:07 PM   #42 
  - Amen to this!  budkin   Dec-15-04 06:08 PM   #44 
  - I think you summed it all up, bud!  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 06:11 PM   #47 
     - me too!  leftchick   Dec-15-04 06:20 PM   #52 
  - It's not over yet...  Peace Patriot   Dec-15-04 06:10 PM   #46 
  - When do we start panicking then? Jan 20th?  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 06:18 PM   #51 
  - I love what you said.  Blue_In_AK   Dec-15-04 06:23 PM   #55 
  - January 6, 2005 I think you mean  GettysbergII   Dec-15-04 07:39 PM   #88 
  - YOU ARE SO WRONG  merh   Dec-15-04 06:21 PM   #53 
  - Letting the Green Party take the lead. I hope "I am so wrong."  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 06:53 PM   #65 
  - So what does it matter who takes the lead. I cannot fathom  merh   Dec-15-04 06:56 PM   #67 
  - Check your facts  merh   Dec-15-04 07:06 PM   #73 
  - AMEN MERH!  angrydemocrat   Dec-15-04 06:55 PM   #66 
  - Well, I don't know, maybe there was a "heads up" in 1994 when..  coreystone   Dec-15-04 06:38 PM   #62 
  - I saw a political commentator on tv last night responding to  merh   Dec-15-04 07:00 PM   #70 
     - Oh, goodie, a lawsuit.  gumby   Dec-15-04 07:34 PM   #86 
  - Maybe he's waiting for the average person to expose this  HeeBGBz   Dec-15-04 06:51 PM   #64 
  - Maybe. But I tend to doubt that the average person has the resources  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 06:57 PM   #69 
  - Perfectly stated. But you also raise some interesting points.  Laura PackYourBags   Dec-15-04 06:56 PM   #68 
  - Good points. But I think many of the statistical anomalies became evident  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 07:00 PM   #71 
  - You're right. And even now, he could be screaming and he's  Laura PackYourBags   Dec-15-04 07:08 PM   #74 
     - I was stunned by that Barney Frank note.  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 07:21 PM   #80 
  - yap, they claim exits had oversampled women and minorities  googly   Dec-16-04 01:40 AM   #103 
  - CORRECTION  Eloriel   Dec-15-04 07:01 PM   #72 
  - I understand what you're saying, but don't think there is anything w  Laura PackYourBags   Dec-15-04 07:10 PM   #77 
  - I beleive ONE of the things we should be doing is DEMANDING that Kerry  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-15-04 07:23 PM   #81 
     - Do you mind if I send you original post to Kerry's brother??  Laura PackYourBags   Dec-15-04 07:32 PM   #84 
     - Cam Kerry was on MSN last nite saying (paraphrasing ok) basically  Eye_on_prize   Dec-15-04 09:02 PM   #98 
     - I wish you would.  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-16-04 11:23 AM   #121 
     - You got that right. It's more than halfway to inauguration.  joeunderdog   Dec-15-04 09:00 PM   #97 
  - maybe the republicans were right about john kerry. eom  msongs   Dec-15-04 07:10 PM   #76 
  - You mean that he's good, and decent, and wouldn't automatically  Laura PackYourBags   Dec-15-04 07:13 PM   #78 
  - Screw you  AZDemDist6   Dec-15-04 07:29 PM   #83 
  - Um, what about this that was posted the same time as your post?  arnheim   Dec-15-04 07:38 PM   #87 
  - Yeah, mighty interesting timing, innit  LittleClarkie   Dec-16-04 05:36 AM   #113 
     - Good. Thought it was just me!  arnheim   Dec-16-04 07:52 AM   #115 
     - Coincidence, LC. I was not aware of this filing, and I am very pleased by  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-16-04 11:22 AM   #119 
  - You want something done? Do it yourself. As they say in my country:  wrate   Dec-15-04 08:38 PM   #91 
  - It will never die because we are living here too, fight for it ourselves  GetTheRightVote   Dec-15-04 08:51 PM   #94 
  - I would have sworn that title was satire  Skip Intro   Dec-15-04 09:15 PM   #99 
  - In addition to a recount in Ohio - there ought to be one in Florida  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-16-04 11:03 AM   #117 
  - The Kerry is AWOL argument has been discussed on and off for weeks, and  Chasing Dreams   Dec-16-04 12:40 AM   #101 
  - How many days and weeks have passed, since Election Day 2004?  The Judged   Dec-16-04 02:48 AM   #105 
  - The Judged  angrydemocrat   Dec-16-04 04:27 AM   #106 
  - Repukes are not that dumb. They know this has been investigated  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-16-04 11:33 AM   #123 
  - Democracy is dead because Americans are sheep  GoPsUx   Dec-16-04 04:38 AM   #107 
  - I love the whiney "I'd fight if Kerry would go first" response  LittleClarkie   Dec-16-04 05:34 AM   #112 
     - People are protesting - it's Kerry that won't get off his butt!  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-16-04 11:08 AM   #118 
  - Democracy in America is about to die because of GWB, and ONLY  Dem2theMax   Dec-16-04 04:46 AM   #108 
  - And if you were in Kerry's shoes, you would challenge an obviously rigged  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-16-04 11:46 AM   #126 
  - Wait to long for your ship to come in ,miss the boat N/T  NicRic   Dec-16-04 07:51 AM   #114 
  - If Bush was told he was going to lose? how did he rig the election?  WI_DEM   Dec-16-04 07:57 AM   #116 
  - Karen Hughes has described how she informed Bush that the exit polls  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-16-04 11:38 AM   #125 
     - Rove & poppy  merh   Dec-16-04 12:11 PM   #128 
        - The exit polls indicating a Kerry landslide  LittleClarkie   Dec-16-04 07:41 PM   #132 
  - This is hyperbole  NewYorkerfromMass   Dec-16-04 12:02 PM   #127 
  - So what?  ElementaryPenguin   Dec-16-04 12:18 PM   #129 
  - that's not the way it is  Cocoa   Dec-16-04 12:28 PM   #131 
  - This thread is all that is wrong with our party  berni_mccoy   Dec-16-04 08:27 PM   #133 

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